21700 Malkoff possibility

[Robot Mania FU]

The only issue I have with the single 21700 is it doesn't allow me a high enough low on the M61HOT or the M91 B-T heads I own. I will eventually put a 18650 Wildcat head on it and put it in my wife's glovebox.

I will however be buying 2 ( If you guys save me any) of the 2x21700 for my hound dog and Wildcat. Its not even really about the extended run times, although those are an obvious plus, for me its more of a ergo thing. I really like the diameter of the body and it really makes the pineapple style come to life. A lot of my flashlight usage is with gloved hands and the bigger size really helps.

Yup, I had the same idea with the 18650 wildcat and 21700 body, butttttt guess who now has a new favorite jacket pocket carry light hahaha

 

[Olumin]

For me a big part is ergos as well. 2x18650 is just too skinny. 21700 tube is much better, but still not perfect for me (~30mm). But its as close as its gonna get. What Id also like is a tricap for the 21700 tube. I use a C-cell holster for the HD so it causes no problems for me. Xtar posted about 26800 cells, never heard of those before but size-wise they sound perfect for me. With those youd get 30mm outer diameter like with C cells.

 

[PoliceScannerMan]

Oh yeah baby.

 

[thermal guy]

Yep! she will run for quite a while on that 21700.

 

[etc]

nice

 

[greatscoot]

View attachment 19498Oh yeah baby.

How's the performance?

 

[thermal guy]

MALKOFF HD SUPER ON 1X21700

Not full power but close

Runtime= 2 hours down to 400-500 lumens.

2 hours 35 minutes still 200 lumens. Very useful

3 hours still 100+ lumens

End test end voltage 2.9

this is what I got. With my eyes.

 

[PoliceScannerMan]

Thanks TG. I have not done any runtime tests. The 21700 is definitely worth owning for Lego's sake.

 

[chip100t]

I have a surefire fury intellibeam that I really love. It's quite a beefy torch for an 18650,

Would it be possible to customise it to run on 21700 cells.

 

[QMT93]

Hi guys,

I just realized CPF is no longer on Tapatalk. No wonder I haven't received any updates in a while. What happened?

On other notes, I am so happy Gene finally presented a 21700 body. I guess now we wait for the 2x21700 body. Also, I think we should get a tricap for the 21700 body as well, to prevent rolling, and to look even cooler. What do you think?

 

[wacbzz]

Has anybody figured out a clip solution for this 21700 body? I love this body but simply don't use it because it's too heavy of a light with a head attached to just float around in the bottom of a pocket.

BTW, before anyone suggests it, a rigged up lanyard around the body is not a substitute for, nor does it take the place of, a clip.

 

[kerneldrop]

Has anybody figured out a clip solution for this 21700 body?

EDC 21700 clip solution provided:

 

[wacbzz]

Ooookaaaayy. So no. In no daily scenario is a Wildcat a natural pocket carry light. The "solution provided" may as well just be the holster Malkoff already provides. I do appreciate the try though.

As a pocket carry light with an MDX head on it, it easily fits in a pocket. The (afterthought) Prometheus clip that Malkoff sells perhaps could be made to fit around the tail cap of the 21700. That is ideal. It clearly works for the 18650 body. It's obvious that like HDS, a clip for a Malkoff MD body is an afterthought.

I figured the CPF "body" would be able to come up with something as the clamor for this body size was enormous. It would make a perfect pocket carry light.

Sadly, it will remain on the dresser until a much needed clip is figured out. It sucks when an apparent much-needed part of a light turns out to be an afterthought...and ultimately, a failure.

 

[thermal guy]

Well if gene ain't figured out how to put a clip on it it's doubtful we bunch would beat him to it. I'm sure he will come up with something. HDS has been struggling with the same issue for what a decade? And they even had a very good way of doing it In the first place. I don't think it's a priority for gene as this body tends to lend itself to the big boys. wildcat hound dog etc and there really not meant to clip in a pocket.

 

[kerneldrop]

Sadly, it will remain on the dresser until a much needed clip is figured out. It sucks when an apparent much-needed part of a light turns out to be an afterthought...and ultimately, a failure.

That is very dramatic.

Nonetheless, Solution #2:

 

[thermal guy]

😂😂

That is very dramatic.

Nonetheless, Solution #2:

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[wacbzz]

Appreciate it, Forrest.

Anywho, not sure why the perception would be that a single 21700 battery body would be for the "big boys?" They are way under powered and do not allow the "big boys" to be what the "big boys" were designed for: we've seen this exactly in this thread for proof. I'd posit that the single 21700 battery body was in fact NOT made for the "big boys."

I think Malkoff realize the failure with the MD2 body and its lack of a pocket clip and *because of the demand for one*, worked with Jason to come up a solution.

Hopefully, Gene will get with him again...

 

[thermal guy]

The reason I say it's for the big boys is because they draw the most juice and need extra runtime. Honestly with a M61 a 18650 will run for 3 hours down to 200+ lumens. Not to many people need more then that. But his 18650 HD and wildcat get real low after and hour. As far as the clip goes if your theory is that the clip was an afterthought and he screwed up with the MD2 you think he just forgot about all that and did it again with the 21700 tube? Whatever his reasons are i think he has/had a plan. Like I say I'm sure he will make something available. Mines on a 18650 HD head and it's perfect for it.

 

[kerneldrop]

Appreciate it, Forrest.
I think Malkoff realize the failure with the MD2 body and its lack of a pocket clip and *because of the demand for one*, worked with Jason to come up a solution.

So intense.

I'm sure you already mic'd the OD of the tube....but for those who have not, the clip needs to be 1.032" or 26.2mm.

Solution 3, let's turn this lemon into lemonade:

Olight Pocket Clip for the M2R Pro and M2R Warrior

Olight Replacement Pocket Clip for the M2R and M2R Pro - Black - Olight products and accessories available at Battery Junction!

www.batteryjunction.com

 

[kerneldrop]

Let ole Forrest turn this 21700 body into a success:
I guarantee that pocket clip isn't coming off during your tactical mission
The clip is off a Fenix PD36R 21700. Don't judge me...my kid takes it to school on "Flashlight Friday".