2500mAh "Eneloop" from Sanyo announced

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Well, it's not called eneloop anymore, but see for yourself:

http://eu.sanyo.com/portal/News-Releases/2010/20-September-2010/


Sanyo announced a new version of LSD batteries, the "XX".
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Capacity is up to 2500mAh, but they have a higher self discharge rate compared to the normal eneloop batteries. (75% after one year)
And a german camera news site states that they are only good for 500 charges.

And according to the news release they are also "Europe only"....
(edit: ironically i choose the day to upload an image to tinypic the day they turn "US only" ;) Image fixed)
 
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I'd rather pick the eneloop tones over this. As the tones has 1500 cycles compare to 500. A little less runtime on the tones though but holds charge longer.
 
GREAT! Another "good news" for people like me who just got tons of the 1st gen eneloops.:(

Time to toss those out for these, I just gotta have new tech.:nana:
 
Nice!

I can see these co-existing quite nicely with my current eneloops - happy to trade a little more self discharge for an increase in capacity for those time when I need it. At least with Sanyo you can trust they actually will be 2500mah and the self discharge still isn't (or hopefully wont be as we still need to see a review) as high as other high capacity nimh's.
 
Just for comparison,

Varta has two LSD AAA battery on the market: the 2100 mAh and the 2300 mAh.
I am using the 2100 variety, which have delivered the 500 promised cycles. From the 2300 mAh batteries, I have obtained only 50 cycles before they lost their LSD properties.

I hope the new 2500 mAh Sanyo LSD do not follow the same track.

Regards

Anthony
 
This is great news. Finally I can use my strobes longer and I do not have to charge batteries that often. I can't wait for this to be offered by amazon.
 
Great news!

I can use the XX in things that are used often (LED lights, wireless track ball and Wii motes) and throw the 3 year old Eneloops in remote controls etc.

After heavy use and hundreds of cycles, I'm getting a few old Eneloops at 1600 for capacity. It's time...
 
I do think this battery has it's place. Even I would purchase some of these batteries, even just to put into my Nitecore NDI for extra runtime, and since that is my current EDC, I don't need to worry too much about the loss of self discharge. But for items like remotes and wireless mice I would stick to regular eneloops.
 
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Hello BruceInSB,

Welcome to CPF.

Since we already have a thread going on this, I will close this one and we can continue the discussion in the other thread.

Tom

Edit: Oops, I will re-open this as the two threads are now merged.

Tom
 
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Maybe I'm just superstitious, but to me the number 2500 together with NiMH is a bad combination. Too many frustrating experiences with Duracell 2500 and Energizer 2500 cells that didn't work right. Think I'll stick with my large stash of Eneloops and Duraloops for now.
 
superstition or just odd coincidence but i know what u mean, there seems to be certain numbers that just don't do well.
the #8 iteration of the super7, tr7 or rx7 for example were never as good & failed to reach the same level popularity.
never know, to distance from the energizer 2500 stink might have been a factor in why sanyo changed their practice in label capacity to the guaranteed min spec instead & will call these 2400.

perhaps i read too much into it at the time, but when the 1500's were announced their press release left me with the vague impression sanyo could have succumbed to producing a higher capacity lsd but chose the high road of longer cycle & shelf life instead.
now with the 'XX' being released almost on the heels it kinda feels like an about face.
i think it likely sanyo had these up their sleeve all along & were waiting for the competition such as the aforementioned varta & immedion to force their hand.
so is there a 2700 'XXX' waiting in the wings?
if they hire vin diesel as spokesperson it would explain the wrapper style.
 
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Sounds like they are offering choices to us. We can have 2000mah for 1500 cycles or 2500mah for 500 cycles.

The more performance but less product life or vice versa applies to almost anything man made.

I love being able to choose what fits me best.
 
Very intersting, I am the eneloop user. Like them for the excellent tested characterictics such as high current (10 amps) delivery, performance at low temperatures, really lowest self discharge in the world compared to other Ni-MHs. It seems the lower capacity is, the "harder" is the low self discharge (LSD) battery. From 2500 mAh Sanyo XX maybe as extreme performance is not expected as from eneloops. They are the middle between common Ni-MH and LSD ones.
 

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