3 interesting lights

[degarb]

Here are 3 interesting lights. Wonder if anyone has opinions.

http://www.angstrompower.com/products_a2.html

Probably will be price pointed out of practicallity.
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http://www.foxfury.com/applications/professional/tactical.htm
Their lumen v. battery life looks spurious.
Also looks like poor optics.
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Craftsman sale on a 24 hour solid state LEd for 8.90$ until Dec. 8. I bought four to convert to wristlights as a practical supplement to my headlamps. Great optics that make great use of the paltry 12 lumens (I guess, no specs) for real detail and brightness. Good solid construction, and I found real battery life is over 40 hours, where it still is holding own, showing 4 foot of angular detail as a wristlight against typical old drywall. I guess it is really made by Dorcy or the like and same light that sells at Walmart for $14. I would be interested in real specs. I did find this one in the paint department, rather than their flashlight department. Go figure.

 

[Illum]

Angstrom's Hydrogen flashlights had a couple threads...not much was actually discussed simply because its almost $2K per light, $3K for charging dock and it uses only a 1 watt LED
couple examples, inclusive but not limited to...
Wow - Angstrom Hydrogen Cell LED Flashlight
Fuel Cell Flashlight from Angstom
To the fuelcell.. and Beyond ..
Hydrogen Fuel Cell Flashlight

some reason foxfury's lights are not discussed rigoriously on the forum....I am unsure of what the deal may be...but theres very few threads I know of that, among other things, discusses foxfury's headlights in an informative manner.
And btw, foxfury, if I remember correctly, can be found in the manufacturers corner

by craftsman LED are you referring to the one that resembles a magLED dropin?
for future reference, theres a rather technical review of the drop in made by [a now retired] user NewBie with runtimes and driver specs if your interested

 

[srvctec]

Foxfury also has banner ads that appear regularly on CPF and CPFMP as well.

 

[FoxFury]

Hi everyone

FoxFury is conservative on light output (we use torch lumens) and battery life specs. We prefer to underpromise and overdeliver.

Our headlamps offer significant peripheral lighting and do not have as focused a beam as others. Based on specs alone, it is difficult to compare with other lights on the market...which may be one reason they are not discussed more on CPF. In addition, we primarily market to and build products for use by First Responders (and Industrial professionals) to meet their niche needs and requirements.

Most people that do hear about us do so through word of mouth, trade shows or the internet rather than seeing us in stores they frequent or ads they see. Those are my best guess as to why you don't see us mentioned in CPF rigorously.

Cheers,
Antonio

 

[degarb]

Angstrom's
by craftsman LED are you referring to the one that resembles a magLED dropin?
for future reference, theres a rather technical review of the drop in made by [a now retired] user NewBie with runtimes and driver specs if your interested

I am refering to craftsman 34 93660 light. Great optic match for light output. For $8 mainly, useful for runtime. However, with my dialup, Opera, even IE, I don't seem to be able to search candlepowerforums.com google anything site:www.candlepowerforums rarely turns up a response, if any. Not sure if somewhere there is hidden a search box (other than the google one at top that doesn't work for me with useful results) on this forum.


Foxfury: I like the fact that you are the rarefew that use 4 AA. But Little doubt a third center strap is needed if used on anything other than a helmet. ( I think helmets are mostly good for show, firemen and high rise workers, while a bike helmet would be far safer for most other field if safety were the real goal. But I digress.) Also, you should produce one or two focusing lights. Also, you need to explain how a 12 watt hour battery pack can do 20 hours of 300 lumens, when cree cant do that.

 

[degarb]

http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_...=Electrical+Shop&sName=Flashlights+&+Lanterns

I also would add, made in Taiwan, not China. And the quality difference shows.

 

[FoxFury]

Hi Degarb

I appreciate your comment on the need for a center strap for our headlamps. Some consumers ask for them on items like our Scuba light but the majority of users wear them on a hat or helmet--due to their jobs, etc. Our headlamps, especially our new Command Tactical lights, fit securely on the head. For Bike and Caving, the elastic strap works fine but some prefer to use zip ties, etc. for extra sturdiness.

As per our battery specs on our Pro 3 Tac-Fire (I'm assuming this is the light you were referring to) headlamp, we give a range because the light has modes. At full power (with 4 CREEs) and using 6 CR123s, battery life is 8 hours. On the modes with 2 CREES (Mode 1 and 2), battery life is closer to 16 hours (with 6 CR 123s).

I looked on our website for the Pro 3 and saw that we state our first two modes as Inner 2 and Outer 2. I feel that may be ambiguous and will have it changed to Inner 2 LEDs and Outer 2 LEDs so that it is more clear. Thanks so much for directing my attention to that.

 

[MikeLip]

Angstrom's Hydrogen flashlights had a couple threads...not much was actually discussed simply because its almost $2K per light, $3K for charging dock and it uses only a 1 watt LED

I 1W Luxeon to be exact. And if you pull up the specs on the light, you will see that operating temperature range is sharply limited to between 10 and 30degC. That kills it for me, if nothing else did. Under 10C is just the way it is here in Northeast Ohio from December until March. You know, the time of year when you are most likely to badly need a flashlight

Definitely a very cool novelty item, but not a practical light.

 

[Illum]

I am refering to craftsman 34 93660 light. Great optic match for light output.

sorry, I forgot to provide the link
on closer evaluation, the drop in reviewed was a craftsman 34 93044 light
http://www.molalla.net/~leeper/Sears Craftsman PR dropin.htm

 

[degarb]

Hi Degarb

Our headlamps, especially our new Command Tactical lights, fit securely on the head. For Bike and Caving, the elastic strap works fine but some prefer to use zip ties, etc. for extra sturdiness.

As per our battery specs on our Pro 3 Tac-Fire (I'm assuming this is the light you were referring to) headlamp, we give a range because the light has modes. At full power (with 4 CREEs) and using 6 CR123s, battery life is 8 hours. On the modes with 2 CREES (Mode 1 and 2), battery life is closer to 16 hours (with 6 CR 123s).

Are they Cree p2 bin or q5? Another spec I am interested in is the angle of reflector (throw number, or likely relative lux of hot spot at 12 foot). (I do painting, so detail and eye focus is all important for me, meaning my Dorcy 3 watt with lower lux than my 1 watt Garrity or Brinkman headlamps fails to impress or satify my needs with its huge hotspot. Immutably, the human eye can only focus on a 3-inch diameter circle at one time for detail vision--exampled in "Where's Waldo" books and the Mona Lisa smirk. )

By using several bulbs, you may be getting more efficiency. Or is just peripheral only benefit?

Also, since cr123a is a new technology, I am baffled when dealers sell lamps that use them, but don't sell the (alien to most people) rechargeables cells and charger too. Were it not for stumbling to this forum, I would think cr123A were watch batteries, like all other retail workers in my area that I surveyed.

Form factor: I have become pretty mean with discount store elastic, Velcro, and a hot glue gun, so a missing strap wouldn't totally deter me. Though I really like the form factor of the 8 led 3 AA Garrity 1 watt Luxeon (11 hour of good light, due to many settings) that Walmart sold and discontinued in fall of 2007 for a 1.7 hour 1 AA regulated headlamp. I think its comfort might only be in a 4 AA if the battery compartment were split up to a 2 AA on rear and putting two other single AA in nearer the front. Breaking up the compartment may also work for a 3 cell unit (two rear and one in lamp)...Or how about 3 cell rear with one compartment for cr123's for either or both usage.