3rd ANNUAL SUREFIRE WISH LIST for '08

bigfoot

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My only wish is for a Surefire light that will take 1xAA or 2xAA. Maybe it doesn't wind up being the brightest and latest light with whizzbang features and super-duper battery life, but that's ok.

Just something with Surefire quality and reliability that can use AA cells.

:D
 

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what's all this about the new optics being bad? When I tried it out in the store I didn't see any artifacts, just a clean white beam. Am I missing something? Oh, and an improved helmet light that comes with the MOLLE adapter, has an adjustable brightness LED, and have it availible in more colors, like coyote brown.
Actually, I think brown would be an awesome color for a lot of the nitrolon stuff. Multicam would be best, but w/e.
 
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clipse

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Wow, this is a cool thread.

My wishlist.

Cree or SSC Kroma
65 Lumen E1L
Hunter Orange G2L

I don't think I could ask for much more than that. :)
 

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looks like a bunch of great ideas. I have a U2 and love it, but I find that it's a touch heavy for honest pocket carry, even holster carry. but an E series, with a stout led, SSC, cree, whatever, with a U2 ring...however a SMALL ring, not obtrusive. Say about the overall size of an E2D...hmmm...

oh, and I have been lurking for about 2 years but never got around to chatting. so consider me the new guy!
 

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I would also like to see a smaller version of the U2. Something like an A2 or E2L sized light with a reflector optimized for a balanced beam like the U2's. Not all flood, but not all throw either. Just a good mix of both.
 

Gerhard

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A 3-4 cell HID lamp would be great, even if the runtime only was 30 minutes. Something similar to the beast, yet a lot smaller and more pocket friendly.

I don't see any reason why this should not be possible. A 15 Watt HID lamp can't be impossible to make.
 

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Welcome LITEFRK, you've got a very nice dream light. I cooked this up in my head recently:
L4 size
A2 type bezel with LED/Incan.
Clickie
Aluminum selector ring to cycle between LED (two levels/colors?) and Incan.
Whiter "white" LEDs.
And a LumensFactory lamp for it that takes rechargables.
 

LITEFRK

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Keygrip, thanks. I thought it was a good idea myself.. Hey, what would a "U1" be?? A single CR-123 battery small version of the U2?? Hmmm...if so, that's a good idea as well. In reality though, since there are so many lights, and so many light manufacturers, it tells me that the market will never satisfy us for the perfect light, and they might not want to. Looking at how many of you guys, myself included, purchase lights, we want them all, and will get them all, or a portion of them all. And our wives be da**ed! My wife thinks I am crazy for being such a freak about flashlights. I told her I spent my childhood years being terrified of the dark and it's carried over to adulthood. So there you have it guys, my darkest secret. Enjoy it as you see fit.
 

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My ideal SF model for this year:
a body like the L2, only 1 inch shorter and that can accomodate a 18650
a Cree Q5 with op reflector, tac strobe and Titan like seamless dimming
HAIII in black finish and a head-down holster

That's all I'm asking for:thumbsup:

One more thing, a focusable beam like the good old mags, just to have a thrower and a flood in the same flashlight:twothumbs
 

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I would like to see an A2 style light that has a two filiment style ican bulb that will allow a low beam (10 lumens) and when both filiments are activated we get the high beam (100 lumens). Requlation for both modes is also a must. The light should be designed to run a 18650 battery.:)
 

djblank87

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I know I'm cheesy but as most have said I would like to see the following:

1. Bring back A2's in Black HA and let us buy them suckers up.
2. 6P's and 9P's in black HA
3. 6P HID lights :faint: only a wish.


4. Keep up the great work your already doing, I'm sure in the depths of the SF R&D bunker there are things in there that would make us just cry. :mecry: becuase we would want them so bad.
 

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May I also repeat my annual call for the L4 with the selector ring collar :D

I know it is a tall order, but then again Surefire isn't called the BEST in the industry for nothing. 3 years on and the U2 is still as magical as the day I got it. I'd buy a U2 again immediately without thinking if I didn't already have one. An L4 with ring would be an equal no brainer. It doesn't even need the newfangled LEDs, just a LuxV and that would be enough.

A simpler request that could be taken care of with just a production run would be a HABK E1L and KX1. Or just a simple black KX1, I'll find my own E1e-BK to put it on. The E1e-BK and KL1-BK (4th-gen with Lux3 and TIR optic) are regularly stocked at SupremeCo (AsiaPac distro for Surefire).


A couple of other ideas that I'm just throwing around: smaller sized Kroma, maybe like the A2. I like the A2's size. HABK would be sweet, too. I want a clickie on it. Sorry, I'm just not one of those guys who breaks down doors (I bang on tables though :p)

While I'm dreaming, could I have an electroless-nickel KX2 to go with my ultra-rare E2e-Nickel :D

I'd like to see 18650 support on the U2/Kroma again. I'll understand if there are some business or other concerns that prevent this from becoming a reality, but I'm a flashaholic and I'm speaking from that perspective. I'm not just a collector because all of these lights get used, and many of them look like they've been put through hell (they have). I'm not a 'tactical' user and hope never to have to be, but I'm a day to day user. And I understand that we may not be SF's biggest target market or the drivers behind their innovation, but I like to think that they keep the flashaholics in mind. I BELIEVE 18650 support on the first generation U2's was no accident.. I still believe there are some flashaholics in SF and that they are still watching over us :)

I'll understand if it's difficult or not possible to fulfill these wishlists. But I like to hope for the best :)

Oh yeah. Someone once commented that SF lights were not made rechargeable because there was already a series of SF rechargeables. That's OK with me, but I'm wondering if we can kick it up a notch. What would REALLY catch my attention is a Surefire U2 RECHARGEABLE. Dedicated rechargeable if it has to be. Think Surefire L7 with battery pack. Think A123 Systems' new Li-Nanophosphate. Think 15 minutes to full charge - the fastest charging duty light available because someone ALWAYS forgets to recharge a pack. Think safety too, with the intrinsically safe Li chemistry that won't cause a "My flashlight/mp3 player/laptop blew up" on YouTube scandal.

Even more amazing: retrofit to existing U2's. Glue a 18650 into a U2 body and that way it will retrofit onto existing U2's and Kromas. The thing is, it doesn't NEED to be exactly the same size as the U2. Many combinations are possible: a 'standard' sized pack which is U2 sized, or an 'extended run' pack that's longer and make the light L7 sized. If possible, I'd really like charge-in-place capability. The ability to drop the U2 into a dock charger is helpful. Why do I care about charging.. again because I actually use the lights and find myself unloading and charging often and necessarily.

And if you guys really want to up the technological ante and show the market that you mean business and innovation when nobody else has anything comparable: inductive charging. Contactless, hermetically sealed, no seam for potential water/dust ingress. Show the world SF still is the very, VERY best!
 
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My wishlist:
1. 2 cell version of L1 with low like E2L and high with 1.5 hour runtime (would probably be 150 SF lumens).
2. Shorter L2 (!!) with 3 x Rebels with McR-10R or similar reflectors, similar to what McGizmo did here. Runtime on low 10 hours, on high 1.5 hour.
3. L4 with 3 x Rebels with McR-10R or similar reflectors (same as on L2). Runtime 2 hours.
4. A2 interface on an all LED 2 cell light for SAR use, similar to McGizmo's Lunasol but with 3 x Rebels (with McR-10R or similar reflectors) instead of Nichias for low and a big reflector or optic for best possible throw on high. Spill not important on high so L1 like beam distribution would be fine if optic gives best throw. When high is on, then Rebels should not be lit to prevent backscatter from nearby objects.
This light should not have a low and high mode like we usually think of them, instead it should have a close/medium range mode and a long range mode, so the rebels should be driven at a high level. Runtime on Rebels should be 4 hours, and high mode 1.5 hours.

Sigbjoern
 
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A Seoul SSC P4 maybe V-bin U2, that would make me buy my first Surefire flashlight :D.

Or maybe a aluminium Titan with CR123A size batteries (or AA would be even better, but unlikely from Surefire).
 

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New, updated Weaponlights OTHER than the handgun X-series. I would like to see a smaller HID version of the HELLFIRE that could be mounted to a rifle. Maybe M6 size or smaller. 30 minutes of runtime would be nice. Maybe a remote battery pack with a cord that could be stored in a chest packet of a tactical vest.
An option for a multi high powered emitter head....no more 3mmLEDs
More multi-level lights.
A turbohead for the E-series!
 

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As many have said before, BLACK HAIII!!!

- Production (cheaper) Titan
- Newer L4, don't care what, just newer
- 1 cell Kroma or U2, or both
 

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New, updated Weaponlights OTHER than the handgun X-series. I would like to see a smaller HID version of the HELLFIRE that could be mounted to a rifle. Maybe M6 size or smaller. 30 minutes of runtime would be nice. Maybe a remote battery pack with a cord that could be stored in a chest packet of a tactical vest.
An option for a multi high powered emitter head....no more 3mmLEDs
More multi-level lights.
A turbohead for the E-series!


running cords, ALWAYS a bad idea, unless you have a break-away connector.
 
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