4680 cell lights

sirpetr

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A three cell flashlight can use a 92 percent efficient switching buck driver, while a single cell light can only use a 70 percent efficient linear driver.
Technically not true. Every kind of switching regulator can work with 90+ efficiences. I personally built lot of buck´s and boost´s for our headlamps with variety of input/output voltages. Reasons why most manufacturers use linears in single cell flashlights are simplicity and prize.
 

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Great, another cell format to change to. Of my larger lights I'm still on 14, 16, 17, and 18mm cells and haven't seen a need to change.

Lights these days are like how cell phones went. Big... then really small... then big again.
 

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Great, another cell format to change to.
Doubt that the 4680 will be widespread enough to threaten the likes of 14500, 16/18650 (and its emerging rival 21700). Assuming it's at all available with the TSLA secret sauce that closes some of the gap between high-density and high-power chemistries.
 

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Great, another cell format to change to. Of my larger lights I'm still on 14, 16, 17, and 18mm cells and haven't seen a need to change.

Lights these days are like how cell phones went. Big... then really small... then big again.
I like to watch the progress of technology, but in a way I agree. My collection still caps off in battery size at 18650, exactly as it was 7 or 8 years ago; technically I have one 21700 torch, but that's my B01 bike headlight, and it has an 18650 in it because that's what Lumintop shipped it with.

In a similar vein, my phone is a Moto G5+, with a "paltry" 5 inch display. I was used to even smaller but had to upgrade (firmware and app compatibility reasons) and this was the cheapest model I could find with native 1080p screen res.

EDIT: Still want to see 46800 for lanterns, though. A single-cell option for long-sustained 360º lighting is a big win for me.
 

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https://www.nealsgadgets.com/products/lumintop-mach-46950-flashlight This one uses a 32,000 mah battery that can discharge 4c. Some of the pics listing it as a 23,000 mah are a typo.
Lumintop's product page indicates 3x21700:
Mach is a high-power led flashlight with an innovative auto-cooling fan design. Utilize 8 Cree XHP50.2 LED, it emits a max 26000 lumens output on Turbo and delivers a distance up to 520 meters. Built-in with USB-C rechargeable with max 4A charging. Runs on 3 X 21700 Li-ion cells, IP68 rated protection, Mach is an ideal lighting device for searching, rescuing, camping, etc.

Neal's Gadgets does make an interesting claim:
Battery46950 battery(included)
It's possible they've got a bespoke monolithic cell that's compatible with the space occupied by the 3x21700 carrier, however I've not been able to locate such a cell on the site. They do have a separate page for the explicitly 21700 Mach with ~half the runtime.
 

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It's an old thread but look what some engineers went and did.

https://www.nealsgadgets.com/produc...p-gt46-flashlight?_pos=1&_sid=e2de86ddc&_ss=r This one has a custom 15,000 mah battery, 24,000 mah are out there.

https://www.nealsgadgets.com/products/lumintop-mach-46950-flashlight This one uses a 32,000 mah battery that can discharge 4c. Some of the pics listing it as a 23,000 mah are a typo.
Why did you have to go and do that! I didn't need another light.:)
 

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Tested the 25% coupon on the 46800 & 46950 lights @ neals
they all take the coupon 1LumenNEW
 
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