6D ROP Maglite - further mods

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crewsy

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hey guys,
still new to all of this, I have a 6D maglite and have just put a borofloat lens, pelican 3853 high beam bulb, MOP metal reflector and 6 x 10 000mah NiMH rechargeable batteries in it. I know its currently running 7.2V and perfect for this bulb, but I have just ordered a 2D extension pack + 2 more batteries on the way as well, will the 3853 bulb still be able to withstand the extra voltage? I've seen people talk about drivers... what do they do? or does anyone have any recommendations as to what to do next to make it reliable/make it more powerful?
Thanks in advance!
 
With 8D size batteries you are looking at 9.6v+ which may be the limit of the 3853H bulb but may work based on these charts which are done to show the limits of the bulbs

http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=179748

A few other bulbs that may be of interest too you are the:

Welch Allen 1185 30w
Which at 9.6v volts should make about 800bulb lumens with a bulb life of about 50hours

JC5607 Hikari 20w ($1-$2)
which at 9.6 volts should be making somewhere near 1800lumens but with a bulb life of about 8 hours or so.

Five Mega FM-1909 63w (custom made bulb for FM) ($16)
Which at 9.6v you would be looking at 1200lumens+ and a bulb life of 96hours.

But to use the above bulbs you would need to get a Bi Pin Adaptor from Five Mega
http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=179891

Also the drivers allow you to have a few modes of brightness rather than just high output so makes the light more useful as you can have a lower mode for general work and still have a blazing high mode, it also feature a soft start which can prolong the bulb life.
http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=177316
This one comes with a bi pin socket as it replaces the whole switch mechanism in the D sized maglite. So you would not have to purchase FM Bi pin adaptor as one is already included in the drop-in.


Hope that helps you out.
 
Wow 8 D! That will be a beast! :green:

Anyway, back to the point at hand. The thing you must remember is that 9.6v is nominal voltage, meaning that 8 fully charged NiMh's could reach up to 15v which will flash a 1185, 3853, 3854, 5607 etc. The 10,000 mAh wont drain off the excess voltage very quickly either, these are made for some long run times! My suggestion would be to go with a 1909, It would be perfect for your voltage range, however they are pretty expensive, around $15 each, and you will have to upgrade to some form or bi pin adapter, either the FM or the KIU. You also will need to get yourself a bulb such as Osram 64440 for example to bleed off some excess voltage before plugging in your 1909 or you will get a lovely :poof:.
 
IlluminatedOne said:
With 8D size batteries you are looking at 9.6v+ which may be the limit of the 3853H bulb but may work based on these charts which are done to show the limits of the bulbs

http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=179748

A few other bulbs that may be of interest too you are the:

Welch Allen 1185 30w
Which at 9.6v volts should make about 800bulb lumens with a bulb life of about 50hours

JC5607 Hikari 20w ($1-$2)
which at 9.6 volts should be making somewhere near 1800lumens but with a bulb life of about 8 hours or so.

Five Mega FM-1909 63w (custom made bulb for FM) ($16)
Which at 9.6v you would be looking at 1200lumens+ and a bulb life of 96hours.

But to use the above bulbs you would need to get a Bi Pin Adaptor from Five Mega
http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=179891

Also the drivers allow you to have a few modes of brightness rather than just high output so makes the light more useful as you can have a lower mode for general work and still have a blazing high mode, it also feature a soft start which can prolong the bulb life.
http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=177316
This one comes with a bi pin socket as it replaces the whole switch mechanism in the D sized maglite. So you would not have to purchase FM Bi pin adaptor as one is already included in the drop-in.


Hope that helps you out.
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Nice man, thanks heaps for all that info! I will report back on how the 3853H bulb goes with the extra voltage running through it. I'll definately look into a bi pin bulb setup... been looking at the KIU and that looks pretty neat. That mag incan driver with bi pin setup from AW looks awesome!! pitty it says sold out... is there a way to get hold of one of those still? unless theres another similar option
 
mrartillery said:
Wow 8 D! That will be a beast! :green:

Anyway, back to the point at hand. The thing you must remember is that 9.6v is nominal voltage, meaning that 8 fully charged NiMh's could reach up to 15v which will flash a 1185, 3853, 3854, 5607 etc. The 10,000 mAh wont drain off the excess voltage very quickly either, these are made for some long run times! My suggestion would be to go with a 1909, It would be perfect for your voltage range, however they are pretty expensive, around $15 each, and you will have to upgrade to some form or bi pin adapter, either the FM or the KIU. You also will need to get yourself a bulb such as Osram 64440 for example to bleed off some excess voltage before plugging in your 1909 or you will get a lovely :poof:.
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thanks mate, yeah should be a real beast :)
looking for a bright alternative that will be reliable too though so I reckon a bi pin bulb setup may be the way to go!
 
ok just got the extension and chucked it on... you were right mrartillery, it just went :poof: hahaha. Is there any type of single pin bulb that will be able to handle 9.6 volts??

edit - I've done some research on the destructive incan bulb thread with all those tables... do you think the Osram 64623 (100W) bulb would do the trick?
link to it here: http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/pike444/bulbs/64623.jpg
This bulb can handle 15volts which mine probably has at full charge, plus is really bright and has a good life span...
If I get a bi pin socket, can I just stick one of these bad boys in?
also, is it entirely necessary to get a ceramic slug? or will the standard one hold up with this?
 
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crewsy said:
ok just got the extension and chucked it on... you were right mrartillery, it just went :poof: hahaha. Is there any type of single pin bulb that will be able to handle 9.6 volts??

edit - I've done some research on the destructive incan bulb thread with all those tables... do you think the Osram 64623 (100W) bulb would do the trick?
link to it here: http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/pike444/bulbs/64623.jpg
This bulb can handle 15volts which mine probably has at full charge, plus is really bright and has a good life span...
If I get a bi pin socket, can I just stick one of these bad boys in?
also, is it entirely necessary to get a ceramic slug? or will the standard one hold up with this?
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This is because like I previously posted, 9.6v is your nominal voltage, which is 1.2v each. Hot off the charger 8 NiMh's could be up to 1.5v each, hence the :poof: The 64623 you're talking about using will run off of 15v nicely, your problem being is that this is voltage is not going to stay at 15v, it will fall off when it has the 9.5A from the 623 applied to it. Not only that but this is a 12v bulb and when your voltage sags below 12v the bulb is going to become very yellow and will lose its appeal rather quickly. Not only this but stock mag switch isn't going to hold up long under that kind of heat and amperage, you'll end up either melting the stock mag tower or the switches internal contacts, KIU is the way to fly with a 623. My suggestion once again, go with the FM1909, its a 10v bulb that will handle around 13, use another bulb to drain off the over voltage and you'll be good to go.
 
mrartillery said:
This is because like I previously posted, 9.6v is your nominal voltage, which is 1.2v each. Hot off the charger 8 NiMh's could be up to 1.5v each, hence the :poof: The 64623 you're talking about using will run off of 15v nicely, your problem being is that this is voltage is not going to stay at 15v, it will fall off when it has the 9.5A from the 623 applied to it. Not only that but this is a 12v bulb and when your voltage sags below 12v the bulb is going to become very yellow and will lose its appeal rather quickly. Not only this but stock mag switch isn't going to hold up long under that kind of heat and amperage, you'll end up either melting the stock mag tower or the switches internal contacts, KIU is the way to fly with a 623. My suggestion once again, go with the FM1909, its a 10v bulb that will handle around 13, use another bulb to drain off the over voltage and you'll be good to go.
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alright well i'll scrap that idea... until I buy another 2D cell extension + new switch and run 12volts :p
I'm thinking of just getting the poor mans FM and just getting the Hikari JC5607, at $2.50 you can't go wrong... so we will see if that one goes :poof: first haha... if it does, I would like to find the best solution to have a bright and reliable mag
 
crewsy said:
alright well i'll scrap that idea... until I buy another 2D cell extension + new switch and run 12volts :p
I'm thinking of just getting the poor mans FM and just getting the Hikari JC5607, at $2.50 you can't go wrong... so we will see if that one goes :poof: first haha... if it does, I would like to find the best solution to have a bright and reliable mag
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The 5607 will be a good choice, but just remember to bleed your over voltage off first, I've pushed mine to 12.3v before without any :poof:. I would'nt try much more than that especially with those 10,000 mAh batteries, those wont sag very quickly.
 
having some trouble finding a company that will post Hikari bulbs to Australia. If anyone knows of a store or someone who will, please let me know. Thanks!
 
crewsy said:
alright well i'll scrap that idea... until I buy another 2D cell extension + new switch and run 12volts :p
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wait, you mean you'll have 10d light????

if you going with 10 cells, you might as well get FM par36 head, and use cheap par36 bulbs, (there are 6v, and 12v available, 6v in case you'll wanna stick with 6 cells) no worries about socket, drivers..ect. plus the throw on 4,5in reflector will be mad long. (par 36 used as aircraft landing light) bright and reliable. and decent runtime, 100w running on 10 D cells will give you about an hour.
 
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alpg88 said:
wait, you mean you'll have 10d light????

if you going with 10 cells, you might as well get FM par36 head, and use cheap par36 bulbs, (there are 6v, and 12v available, 6v in case you'll wanna stick with 6 cells) no worries about socket, drivers..ect. plus the throw on 4,5in reflector will be mad long. (par 36 used as aircraft landing light) bright and reliable. and decent runtime, 100w running on 10 D cells will give you about an hour.
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those are damn expensive... I guess you get what you pay for though. Might look into it in the future, but for now I think I'm gonna follow the write up that Mrartillery has on the rocker switch + KIU bi pin setup
 
crewsy said:
those are damn expensive... I guess you get what you pay for though. Might look into it in the future, but for now I think I'm gonna follow the write up that Mrartillery has on the rocker switch + KIU bi pin setup
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Sounds like a good combo, hopefully you can get your bulbs! If that one source I gave you wont ship internationally let me know and I'll send you some other sources. :thumbsup:
 
Just thought I would give a bit of an update, got myself a 15amp rocker switch, cut the tower off my switch housing and have soldered the wires onto the new switch. Just waiting on the bi pin socket and bulbs now and then will widen the metal reflector I already have to accommodate the new bulb. Will post up some progress pics in the next couple of days :)
 
ok some progress pics... excuse the lack of quality as its off my phone camera

My new rocker switch half done, just waiting on the bi pin socket
Photo0180.jpg


Just a picture of the mag at the moment as an 8D
Photo0176.jpg
 
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