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after a long look at reviews and other things about the A2 i have decided i will not get it :mecry:but i have a friend with a 9p and i love it! so i will be saving up to get my own and am asking you guys what would be good for what i am looking for out of it. this is what i would like:
-250 "surefire lumens" for at least 20 {15 at the absolute least} minutes with out a serious drop to below 40% IF possible
-strike brezel thing-a-mabob
- recchargables would be nice but not needed
- under $175
- long throw {narrow or tight spot} again not needed, but i cant have a flood light. Yuck:(!

i will be looking to use this as a spot light. i dont want any of you to go out of you way to try to find any thing for me. just tell me what you know.;) thank you guys for waht ever you give me.
 
250 "surefire lumens" means you need about 500 bulb lumens on fresh cells.

Overdrive a P91 on a pair of 18650s and you'll have something I would personally stamp "250 or more Surefire Lumens" on. But it will be a floody beam,.. but I think you might be amazed at how much throw a floody beam can have when it has this much power behind it.

The trick to doing this is NOT to buy a 9P, as the only thing you would end up using from it is the tailcap, which makes for a very expensive tailcap. Instead do the following:

buy the Bezel that Monochrome pointed out from lighthound:
http://www.lighthound.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=2894
$19

buy a Leefbody 2x18650 C - C
http://www.lighthound.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=2619
$70

buy a Surefire "C" compatible tailcap of your choice, here's a great example:
http://www.lighthound.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=2638
$35

buy a Surefire P91 lamp assembly: (can probably be found cheaper elsewhere if you look)
http://www.surefire.com/maxexp/main/co_disp/displ/carfnbr/254/prrfnbr/244/Lamp-Reflector-
$27

buy 2 AW brand protected 18650 Li-Ion cells:
http://www.lighthound.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=1305
$26

buy a charger:
http://www.lighthound.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=2566
$18

Lube up the threads and put it all together, enjoy.

That's $195 plus shipping.... to reduce costs you can do the following:
1. Order your AW cells direct from AW in the dealer corner of the marketplace
2. Order a cheaper tailcap switch. (some good ones are ~$20, even from SureFire)
3. Order the P91 from a cheaper source
4. Buy a DSD charger instead, they can be found for about $8 various places online. It's slower, but will work. The Ultrafire charger is also available from AW for a few bucks less than lighthound IIRC.

You might be able to get close to that $175 limit (probably still a little over) if you shop around... look for used parts in BST maybe...


In order to meet all the requirements, including a throwy beam. You're looking at more like $300 cause you have to get a Surefire Turbohead. (same body, tailcap, and batteries, but a KT2 with MN16)
 
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mdocod said:
ok, maybe not such a good example... lol
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I actually had an idea for making a light completely out of aftermarket parts that are made for SF lights. Had no specific output requirements. Found everything too.... Lamp, head, barrel, tailcap switch, and batteries. Whole thing, under $200.

Must admit, after finding the thread mentioned in my last post; I reconsidered. Nothing to do with Leef, actually. I just realized that if one of those parts didn't fit properly on a different aftermarket part, I'd be out 200 bucks. And I don't have enough Surefires to use up all the "spare parts."

At least not yet! :D
 
WOW! :drool:this is more than i thought you could ever do to a flashlight. ha, i still remember those days when i thought a 3-d cell mag-lite was the brightest light in the world. LOL. also a mn16 will work with a 9p turbo head!?!? if so i need to stop limiting my options to what the sites say. also how much could a p91 be overclocked before going :poof: also how long will the runtime be with this set-up? and if i needed to i could run 123's at anytime right
 
SilentK said:
WOW! :drool:this is more than i thought you could ever do to a flashlight. ha, i still remember those days when i thought a 3-d cell mag-lite was the brightest light in the world. LOL. also a mn16 will work with a 9p turbo head!?!? if so i need to stop limiting my options to what the sites say. also how much could a p91 be overclocked before going :poof: also how long will the runtime be with this set-up? and if i needed to i could run 123's at anytime right
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No such thing as a 9P Turbo head. You could get a Leef adapter from Lighthound, then buy a seperate M3T head. Then just use the lamps recommended for the M3T Turbo head. Or just buy an M3T. That would be less expensive.
 
Actually, the 9P works with the KT-2 turbohead. It doesn't come with an MN15, but rather the N2, which has the same voltage and runtime ratings but apparently has a rounder beam profile than the MN15.

The KT-2 is not shock isolated however but is much less expensive than the kt-4 plus leef adapter, not to mention it'll match the 9p's black finish. It also works perfectly with the mn15/mn16/n2/led-turbomodule.

All surefire lola 9V lamps (p90/mn15/n2) work well with 2 li-ion cells driving them making them rechargeable. The holas (p91/mn16) also work with 2 li-ion cells but the cells used need to be able to take the high current draw (18650s are recommended) and it'll most certainly shorten the lamp life. On the bright side, their output will be dramatically increased and the light will be much whiter.

Last thing, the kt-2 turboheads don't have the crenelated forend options stock. I've seen one with crenulations but it was made of plastic. There is someone selling titanium crenulated rings for surefire M3s and planning a run for turboheads though... But it's all starting to get expensive.
 
kongfuchicken said:
Actually, the 9P works with the KT-2 turbohead. It doesn't come with an MN15, but rather the N2, which has the same voltage and runtime ratings but apparently has a rounder beam profile than the MN15.

The KT-2 is not shock isolated however but is much less expensive than the kt-4 plus leef adapter, not to mention it'll match the 9p's black finish. It also works perfectly with the mn15/mn16/n2/led-turbomodule.

All surefire lola 9V lamps (p90/mn15/n2) work well with 2 li-ion cells driving them making them rechargeable. The holas (p91/mn16) also work with 2 li-ion cells but the cells used need to be able to take the high current draw (18650s are recommended) and it'll most certainly shorten the lamp life. On the bright side, their output will be dramatically increased and the light will be much whiter.

Last thing, the kt-2 turboheads don't have the crenelated forend options stock. I've seen one with crenulations but it was made of plastic. There is someone selling titanium crenulated rings for surefire M3s and planning a run for turboheads though... But it's all starting to get expensive.
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Thanks for the information. I should clarify that my earlier post was in reference to the fact that you can't get a Turbohead as a standard item on a 9P, when buying the light. Unlike an M3 or M3T.
 
also how much could a p91 be overclocked before going also how long will the runtime be with this set-up? and if i needed to i could run 123's at anytime right
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The P91 and MN16 bulbs will probably instaflash somewhere around ~7.7V-8.0V depending on luck. Under the load of the bulb they usually operate at about 6.75V under semi-normal circumstances (on CR123s), a pair of 18650s could theoretically border on the limit pushing about 7.6V at the bulb on a fresh charge. In most cases with some resistance in the light you can expect to be getting more like 7.4V to the bulb, it's still very nicely overdriven at that level.

A pair of 18650s is the length of 4 CR123s, so you will not be able to drop a stack of CR123s in to run the bulb on unless you use a dummy cell. I have estimated runtime and output for nearly everything you can do as far as custom tactical Li-Ion powered configurations in the compatibility chart.

Here's an example of what can be found in the chart... to compare my numbers to surefire lumens... take the high and low lumen numbers and average them, then round to the nearest good sounding number. lol....
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Cell configuration: 2x18650

Bulb Options:
LF D26 ES-9: 7W, 117 - 77 lumen in 147 minutes
LF D26 SR-9: 10W, 163 - 110 lumen in 102 minutes
LF D26 HO-9: 12W, 219 - 145 lumen in 80 minutes
LF D26 EO-9: 15.5W, 280 - 188 lumen in 60 minutes
SF P90: 9.5W, 154 - 103 lumen in 104 minutes
SF P91: 20W, 360 - 215 lumen in 43 minutes
G&P G90: 9.5W, 154 - 103 lumen in 104 minutes
G&P D26 7.4V "DX 10W xenon": 10W, 158 - 105 lumen in 104 minutes (guess)
G&P D26 7.4V "DX 15W xenon": 11W, 179 - 119 lumen in 93 minutes (guess)
Pathfinder P90: 10.5W, 167 - 112 lumen in 94 minutes
WE D26 9V: 10.5W, 179 - 119 lumen in 93 minutes
Pila GL3 LA: 10.5W, 179 - 119 lumen in 93 minutes

Body Options:
Leefbody 2x18650 w/C tail and head, +SF compatible tail-cap/bezel. +++
Wolf-Eyes 6 series sniper (non-turbo) +ONE LRB-168 extender, + copper wire mod. ++(requires modification)

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to see more configuration options, and to get educated and ready to "go" for building up a Li-Ion powered tactical light... click the link in my sig line... (incan guide/compatibility chart)
 
would this work if i just got the 9p and added an extendor so it can hold 4x 123s or the 2x 18650s. just my paranoid self not quite liking the idea of "building a light" i know it may cost more. but i think i would be more comforble is i did the 9p with extention route untill i get a little more experence on my hands. :thumbsup: because i still canot understand how i spent $85 bucks on a light {SF 6PL} but i am craving more!
 
18XXX cells don't fit stock surefire bodies.
You can either get a machine shop to bore it out for you, use lower capacity 17650 cells or get leef bodies that match.
The latter option is currently out of stock and as far as lighthound knows it's due back within a month.
 
I kept mine simple. I added a Lumens Factory HO9 from Pacific Tactical lamp to it. It's whiter now and with decent runtime. Otherwise untouched. A great little light.
 
Monocrom said:
Ironically, the combination of a Leefbody and Leef tailcap switch might not work properly.

http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showpost.php?p=2321922&postcount=35
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I'm thinking about putting together this Light, Leef Tailcap, Leef 2x 18650 Body, and a Surfire 6PD bezel with a Lumens Factory EO-380 LA, and Two AW 18650 Batteries.

I already have the Ultra Fire WF-139 charger.

Is there a chance that this might now work with the Leef Body and Tail cap combination? :thinking:

I would rather not spend all this money if this might not work well together.

Thanks! :twothumbs
 
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hard to say why that tailcap isn't working on the leefbody, beings that leef made it!, lol... might just be an oddball event going on there, hard to say... the configuration will work provided a strange situation like that doesn't crop up.. A Z49 or Z59 from SF should work fine as well, price is similar so that might be the way to go.
 
Leef, if this has been corrected please let me know.

I wanted to use that combination real bad but might tank the project if it's going to pose a potential problem.

I prefer not having to use washers or wires to get this combo to work.

Thanks for fast reply mdocod. :thumbsup:
 
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The threads on the current production run C series and LeefBody (LB) bodies are not the same. Thus, the Leef McClicky (LM) fails to engage properly when threaded on a LB. A workaround would be to extend the tailcap spring of the LM so that it makes proper contact with the battery.
 
To: sixshooter 45 ~

No need to scrap the entire project. Like mdocod mentioned, just get a different tailcap switch.
 
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