A Q for Ra Clicky owners! (have you had this problem)
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Kamakazikev24
Enlightened
Hi TurboDog, does your light not flash now when you go to burst? Or no other flashing or flickering at all?
Great if that's the case, keep us informed if any thing changes, I maybe tempted to get one and try this.
But then again, that shouldn't make it better, ......why would it? Maybe the heat or .....Dunno.
Great if that's the case, keep us informed if any thing changes, I maybe tempted to get one and try this.
But then again, that shouldn't make it better, ......why would it? Maybe the heat or .....Dunno.
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turbodog
Flashaholic
Light originally flickered/flashed when going into burst. This happened on new or used primary or secondary cells. Now it's just on new primary cells, and not nearly as often.
luxlover
Banned
I agree with Alex. It has been this way from EDC to NovaTac to Twisty to Clicky!
Jeff
Kamakazikev24
Enlightened
Thanks Jeff.
So then, would that mean the 140c's that were left in the store are faulty?
If so I will need to wait for more stock.
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Henk_Lu
Flashlight Enthusiast
If that is correct, than I have a faulty one waiting in the postal office until I wil get it on monday.
Let's wait for it, but what should I do if it misbehaves? Send it back to the dealer? Send it to Henry? Keep it because it ain't that bad? 😕
Kamakazikev24
Enlightened
Well I hope that your light is OK, so don't worry to much about it.
But please let us know how you get on!
I am waiting to hear from Henry, and when I do I will post on here what he says.
He will be waiting for my light to be shipped back to him so he can check it out.
What I'am interested in is should the lights in stock flash when going to burst, and from reading the instructions and listening to people here they should not.
We need to get the holidays out of the way first!
But please let us know how you get on!
I am waiting to hear from Henry, and when I do I will post on here what he says.
He will be waiting for my light to be shipped back to him so he can check it out.
What I'am interested in is should the lights in stock flash when going to burst, and from reading the instructions and listening to people here they should not.
We need to get the holidays out of the way first!
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zenas
Newly Enlightened
Ok, some more observations:
First: If the battery can not deliver enough power for the actual level, you get one flash and a 50% stepdown. We all know that and it's written in the .pdf at the HDS page.
And now the questions:
Is this stepdown limited to all levels except burst? (that is what some try to say here --> burst is not activated if the battery is nearly empty...) I don't think so, because I made the following observations:
A first observation: I used one of my two almost empty CR123A, enabled burst mode and turned on my light on the primary brightness setting. Then I activated burst with a PH (enabeling the high setting as long as I'm pressing the button down), my Clicky went to burst for about 2-3s, indicated a short flash and stepped down to the high brightness setting (I think it was level 22 with 100lm and not a 50% decrease, which would mean a dropdown to 70lm). It stayed on high for about 2 min, indicated another flash and dropped again (this time 50% decrease as it was supposed to do). From that point I had a flash every minute. Note that I had NO FLASH within the 2 minutes on high, although I already had a stepdown after 2-3s of burst!
A second observation:
After I had repeated the things on PART1 a few times, I recognized something different: I started my light on the primary brightness setting, tried to activate burst with a PH and my light increased the brightness stepwise, like seaching for the highest brightness setting the battery was able to supply enough power for. It finally reached the burst brightness level, flashed after 1-2s, stepped down to standard high, stayed there for about 1 min, flashed again and stepped down 50% like it should normally do. From then on I had a flash every minute indicating low battery.
A third observation:
The battery must have been nearly empty after the second test. Again, I just activated the primary brightness setting, tried to activate burst with PH, got a stepwise brightness increase but my Clicky was not able to go to burst. Instead it just went up 2 levels (or steps from primary), made a lllooooooonnnnggg "off" pause (which means a twice as long "off time" as you would expect for a normal 50% stepdown!) and the brightness setting which was chosen by my light was equivalent to the one after a 50% stepdown from the standard high (level 22 / 100lm) setting. After this long pause and the "seemed like it was a 50% stepdown from 100lm" I got a flash every minute, indicating low battery.
Note: The same battery was used for these three tests. I listed the observations in chronologic order.
All my observations look normal to me, as I would expect my light decreasing brightness, whenever the battery is nearly empty (and I would expect my Clicky to try to reach burst - if it can not do so, I would expect a stepdown). Also the stepwise increase looks quite normal to me, as it can be a result of the battery chemistry, the circuit board or whatever. And even the "funny" thing with the long pause and the "double stepdown in one step"-thing looks totally normal to me and seems to be a result of the Clicky's circuit, taking the power of the battery in account.
With a fresh battery, my Clicky can go to burst for 10s, can stay on the high brightness setting for a long long time (take a look at my runtime test :naughty🙂 and I observe no stepwise brightness increase and no "double stepdown in one step"-thing.
Let me hear what you think about my observations. To me, everything sounds normal.
P.S.: We are talking about a 140-Cgt here 😉
First: If the battery can not deliver enough power for the actual level, you get one flash and a 50% stepdown. We all know that and it's written in the .pdf at the HDS page.
And now the questions:
Is this stepdown limited to all levels except burst? (that is what some try to say here --> burst is not activated if the battery is nearly empty...) I don't think so, because I made the following observations:
A first observation: I used one of my two almost empty CR123A, enabled burst mode and turned on my light on the primary brightness setting. Then I activated burst with a PH (enabeling the high setting as long as I'm pressing the button down), my Clicky went to burst for about 2-3s, indicated a short flash and stepped down to the high brightness setting (I think it was level 22 with 100lm and not a 50% decrease, which would mean a dropdown to 70lm). It stayed on high for about 2 min, indicated another flash and dropped again (this time 50% decrease as it was supposed to do). From that point I had a flash every minute. Note that I had NO FLASH within the 2 minutes on high, although I already had a stepdown after 2-3s of burst!
A second observation:
After I had repeated the things on PART1 a few times, I recognized something different: I started my light on the primary brightness setting, tried to activate burst with a PH and my light increased the brightness stepwise, like seaching for the highest brightness setting the battery was able to supply enough power for. It finally reached the burst brightness level, flashed after 1-2s, stepped down to standard high, stayed there for about 1 min, flashed again and stepped down 50% like it should normally do. From then on I had a flash every minute indicating low battery.
A third observation:
The battery must have been nearly empty after the second test. Again, I just activated the primary brightness setting, tried to activate burst with PH, got a stepwise brightness increase but my Clicky was not able to go to burst. Instead it just went up 2 levels (or steps from primary), made a lllooooooonnnnggg "off" pause (which means a twice as long "off time" as you would expect for a normal 50% stepdown!) and the brightness setting which was chosen by my light was equivalent to the one after a 50% stepdown from the standard high (level 22 / 100lm) setting. After this long pause and the "seemed like it was a 50% stepdown from 100lm" I got a flash every minute, indicating low battery.
Note: The same battery was used for these three tests. I listed the observations in chronologic order.
All my observations look normal to me, as I would expect my light decreasing brightness, whenever the battery is nearly empty (and I would expect my Clicky to try to reach burst - if it can not do so, I would expect a stepdown). Also the stepwise increase looks quite normal to me, as it can be a result of the battery chemistry, the circuit board or whatever. And even the "funny" thing with the long pause and the "double stepdown in one step"-thing looks totally normal to me and seems to be a result of the Clicky's circuit, taking the power of the battery in account.
With a fresh battery, my Clicky can go to burst for 10s, can stay on the high brightness setting for a long long time (take a look at my runtime test :naughty🙂 and I observe no stepwise brightness increase and no "double stepdown in one step"-thing.
Let me hear what you think about my observations. To me, everything sounds normal.
P.S.: We are talking about a 140-Cgt here 😉
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Kamakazikev24
Enlightened
Thanks for taking the time to do that, I would say, yes. That seems pretty normal to me.
Hopefuly others who know these lights better will step in.....
So you have no flash while going to high?
If that's the case then it all seems good!
Hopefuly others who know these lights better will step in.....
So you have no flash while going to high?
If that's the case then it all seems good!
Just to add to the observations: My 140Cn flickers on the lower three levels. I have set my low to level four and it actually flickers a little on that level too, but only if you look for it. I have seen no flickering issues on high/burst and my light does not behave like the one in the video of the OP. I haven't tried to run down a battery yet though.
zenas
Newly Enlightened
I tested all lower levels (the first 5) whether they flicker or not. If I scroll through the brightness settings and I reach level 2, it flickers for about 1/2s (just noticeable) but then it's stable (without any flickering). If the "low" setting is set to this level (or any other like 1 / 3 / 4 etc.) and I select the "low" setting with a "tripple click", I have absolutely no flickering with any level chosen - not even for 1/2s like it flickered within the ramping sequence.
Just an update on my flickering burst issues. I've taken my Clicky with me on two long late night walks with my wife and it's worked flawlessly each occasion. No flicking or flashes when activating burst. I am using the same battery that I had the problems in the first place and the clicky has worked great. I hope it stays this way.
Kamakazikev24
Enlightened
Has anyone who said they have had problem's with there lights seen any improvements with more use?
The above post wasn't there when I posted this! LOL.
So do you think it was maybe a dirty contact somewhere? Maybe in the switch?
Thanks, Kam.
The above post wasn't there when I posted this! LOL.
So do you think it was maybe a dirty contact somewhere? Maybe in the switch?
Thanks, Kam.
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grinsekatz
Newly Enlightened
No problems so far.
My two lights just behave as zens has written and that is according to he User's Guide.
A dirty contact can indeed produce some issues, I had that with a NovaTac. After cleaning the threads the light worked fine again.
Cleaning the threads and contacts with some isopropyl from time to time is important for a flashlight.
Well, sometimes I'm a little bit lazy to do this. 🙄
Alex
Kamakazikev24
Enlightened
Has anyone had a chance to test the Auto off timer yet?
Thanks Kam.
Thanks Kam.
Henk_Lu
Flashlight Enthusiast
I just got my Clicky this morning! 🙂
As I am an idiot, I disassembled everything that can be and ended up with the lens and its o-rings on my hand. The I got the perfect idea to clean the lens on boh sides with alcohol and partly destroyed the coating... :shakehead I already wrote a mail to Henry to get a new lens.
At first, I had some flickering and unusual behavior too, but after playing around with the light and performing a reset, everything was fine. Only one issue is left : If I do a click and PHR, the light stays on burst, doesn't return to the level below anymore. With a simple PHR it is OK though, it returns to the level it was in before.
Has anyone observed that behavior? I don't really care about it, if I need a burst, I'll do a PHR as long as needed or simply switch it to burst and return to another level afterwards.
Greets,
Henk
As I am an idiot, I disassembled everything that can be and ended up with the lens and its o-rings on my hand. The I got the perfect idea to clean the lens on boh sides with alcohol and partly destroyed the coating... :shakehead I already wrote a mail to Henry to get a new lens.
At first, I had some flickering and unusual behavior too, but after playing around with the light and performing a reset, everything was fine. Only one issue is left : If I do a click and PHR, the light stays on burst, doesn't return to the level below anymore. With a simple PHR it is OK though, it returns to the level it was in before.
Has anyone observed that behavior? I don't really care about it, if I need a burst, I'll do a PHR as long as needed or simply switch it to burst and return to another level afterwards.
Greets,
Henk
Click+PHR selects high setting and stays there just as it stays on any other setting you select (low/secondary/primary). Click+PHR and PHR are two different commands which, as you have discovered, do two different things.
Henk_Lu
Flashlight Enthusiast
I did some serious RTFM and as I understoos, both PRH and Click & PHR should bring the light into bust mode, which means 140 Lumen in my case, and that for 10 seconds. Than the light is supposed to step down to 100 lumens.
I didn't check if I have the 23 modes available yet, but I'm sure it nevr steps down though...
Ah, I see what you mean now - I somehow didn't realize you were talking about the 10 sec timer. So, your light doesn't have the 10 sec timer when using Click+PHR - hey, can I have your light 😛
