Another "MY perfect AA/EDC Light" thread....

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I really like the 1xAA light format for edc but I just haven't found one worthy enough to justify replacing other 1x123 lights.
I have an older L1t that is modded with a Seoul that is nice but the twisty two-stage is not the best.

The quality of the Jetbeam MarkII is the only one that has been half way decent to me.
I've returned or sold three Fenix Lxxx mainly because of poor quality and the UI and ringy beam.

My perfect EDC would be a Novatac AA the size of a jetbeam/Fenix
It would have 3 adjustable levels. No strobe, sos, etc. and the clicky just like the Novatac 85/120.
I would buy 2 or 3 for sure.
 
Tis funny, didn't you just reply to a thread of mine basically asking the same thing?

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In any case, I'll follow this one too since I'm looking for the same thing...

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Tis funny, didn't you just reply to a thread of mine basically asking the same thing?

:confused:

In any case, I'll follow this one too since I'm looking for the same thing...

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Yes I did. I'm kinda scatterbrained huh :crazy::eek: I think I'm thinking/typing outloud or something.

I guess I shouldnt have two threads open at once.
 
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Wait for the new JetBeam MKII that supports 14500 for the brightness... I think BugOutGearUSA will carry them.
 
I was pretty happy with my Fenix L1p til newer leds passed it by. It was better in build quality and UI than the L1* that they make now. A Seoul-modded L1p might be a nice solution to what you're asking, unless you really need the 3 levels. I've mostly come to the conclusion by now that once you're using rechargeables, multi levels aren't really that useful and I'm satisfied with 1 level lights. Just carry a short running bright one backed up by a long running dim one.
 
I just saw hundreds of lights at PhotonFest9 and the Jetbeam MkII impressed me. Zot had one with the alternate tubes [for a cr123 and also for 2 AA]. That makes it versitle. I guess this is the new one that can also use a 14500.
 
My favorite light for the past 2 years has been a Lambda MiniPro 2 AA minimag. I have tried out several AA lights since then but nothing has replaced the MiniPro - until a few weeks ago. You may be aware that RV7 makes an excellent 1 AA driver - and that Surefire has possibly the best flashlight bodies. I have a new E1L head modified with a Cree Q4/WC emitter and a driver from RV7's first run. It is mated to a 2 cell surefire body with a spacer and a sleeve for the 1 AA battery. This is a classic matchup - and makes a wonderful light.
 
I really like the 1xAA light format for edc but I just haven't found one worthy enough to justify replacing other 1x123 lights.
I have an older L1t that is modded with a Seoul that is nice but the twisty two-stage is not the best.

The quality of the Jetbeam MarkII is the only one that has been half way decent to me.
I've returned or sold three Fenix Lxxx mainly because of poor quality and the UI and ringy beam.

My perfect EDC would be a Novatac AA the size of a jetbeam/Fenix
It would have 3 adjustable levels. No strobe, sos, etc. and the clicky just like the Novatac 85/120.
I would buy 2 or 3 for sure.

This is what I am waiting for as well. It also must have a pocket clip similar to the McGizmo Ti Clip ( The most perfect Clip ever made)
I have a Dexlight X1 AA and would say its made very well BUT I never use it, its not my shelf queen but sits in the packaging it came in and having a nice rest. I'm waiting for Surefire or McGizmo to make one for flashaholics like us, I suppose Navatac can give it a go as well since the 120P is of such high quality as well...........lets hope so
 
Here is mine;

Length - 1/2" longer than a AA. Maybe 1".
Switch - tailcap forward clickie. I would actually prefer a sidemount, and would accept a bulge at the switch.
Output - perfectly smooth white beam. Intense hotspot, evenly graduating to a nice spill. Hotspot of about 10 degrees. Spill out to about 60 degrees.
Power - enough to take the paint of the side of my house, or to set my hair on fire.
Runtime - 20 hours on minimum.
Levels - minimum of 5, user programmable via bluetooth link with a good GUI. I really REALLY want something like this :)
Price - under $100.

Nope, not asking for much!
 
I am going to purchase the C-LE v2. It doesn't hit everything in my perfect features list, but it is best I can find.

My problem is that I only have 2 real LED flashlights. Streamlight ProPoly Lux, and a Mag 4D LED. Mag sits around with alks. PP is on my person a lot. I really dig everything about this light. Size, output, and battery type. When I say size I mean it sits well in my hand, not my pocket. I think it will be hard to find a light that is smaller but still have an intense hot spot like the PP. Small reflectors compared to deep reflectors.

I cannot wait until a light with all of my "perfect stats" comes out. I think that I will be waiting for a long time.:candle:

I have stated this before, but here I go again. What if Streamlight made a smaller 2AA light geared around a Rebel. I know the die of the Rebel is the same size of other LEDs, but the Rebel emitter is tiny. Couldn't Streamlight make a small/deep reflector to just sit on the itty bitty Rebel instead of sitting around the die? If so then that reflector could be a lot smaller, but it could have the same hot spot and spill that the PP Lux has. Throw in a circuit that is more efficient and you have a winner.:party:
 
Here is mine;

Length - 1/2" longer than a AA. Maybe 1".

Diameter - Same as MiniM@g AA body.

Switch - Twisty or LOTC

Output - perfectly smooth white beam. Moderate hotspot, evenly graduating to a nice spill. Hotspot of about 20 degrees. Spill out to about 60 degrees.

Power - AA primary or 14500 autodetect for protection of Li-Ion and moon mode threshold. CR2, N, AAA and 2AA optional bodies. 1D body and reflector/globe for table lamp/lantern use.

Runtime - more than 24 hours on minimum.
Levels - minimum of 2, maximum of 4. One level ~20 mA or near best Lm/W efficiency of emitter.

Tail standable.

Head down pocket clip.

Ti replacable Bezel, HAIII head and body.
 
I have a new way to figure this out, here is the ultimate AA EDC light for me.

1 Lumen low (to see in the dark and not wake people up)
10 lumen medium (for walking around)
100 lumen hight (whisky-tango-foxtrot is that?)

Now we go to runtime using a Sanyo Eneloop 2000mAH cell

1 lumen = 100 hours
10 lumens = 10 hours
100 lumens = 1 hours

Wait!... There is more!
Twist the head to adjust levels (magnet and coil way to signal changes)
Use a tail clickie to turn on and off.

Considering 100 lumens out the front would equal about 140 lumens or so from the LED, it would take about 1.5 amps from the Eneloop. No problem. Use copper for a heat sink to transfer to real HA-III (see FireFlyIII for instructions)

Use a Fraen FRC faceted reflector to smooth the beam without killing the throw. Feed it with the highest Cree XRE bin available so it will be durable.

Pot the electronics and use a gold-plated brass positive connection on the head.

Allow electronics to regulate from 1.0V to 4.2 volts and give a long "tail" when the battery is low.

Offer a 2AA body or and extender to fit AA/2AA requirements

Offer a "turbo head" to make a 2AA throwing monster!

Offer a sequence of head twists/clickie presses to enter into programming. Allow low-medium-high or high-medium-low to folks. Allow a sequence for the light to strobe/SOS if the user wants it.

Since I am dreaming, the three detents in the head to magnetically trigger the different levels (so you know the runtime) allow variable output between the levels by twisting the head.

Allow simple modules to replace LED modules to upgrade the light as LED bins improve.

Allow the light to tail stand

Put a keychain ring on it so a "lobster claw" can be clipped to it for attaching to things.

Knurl the damn thing so I can get a grip on it!

The turbo head should be available with light orange peel or smooth reflector for throw. (Turbo head is for throw!)

Put thermal regulation in the head so it can be used in very hot environments without blowing up.

Make a special model that will allow red and white (military and LEO use)

Optional 18650 lithium-ion and CR123A bodies if folks get into that.

Quality is key! DON'T cheap out on any component!

Build a tail switch that will handle 500,000 cycles! We can fly to other planets but nobody cares enough to make a decent switch!

Have optional lexan lens to replace the AR double-sided lens of the stock light. Heck, even include the optional lens so if your light is getting beat to hell, the lens won't break.

Allow optional titanium bezels and tail switch rings to protect the light when dropped. Throw in a glow in the dark tail switch cover and GID o-rings for the lens seal. Be seen or not be seen is up to you.

Flat-line current regulation but kick out before the battery is dead allowing a long dim tail of use.

Throw in a quick flash every minute when the battery is 80% used up.

Price it at least $100+ to allow critical evaluation.


Not that I am demanding or anything.... :)
 
My current perfect AA/EDC light: Take the best 1AA light out there (approxomately Fenix L1D-CE) and add something no light has yet (more power, more run time, smaller size...whatever). Perfection is always beyond our reach...

Cut to the end of the chase: infinite power, infinite run time, infinitely adjustable (better be...), miniscule increase in size over AA battery, but takes an AA battery, HA, AR glass, and a lanyard hole........:laughing::laughing:
 
Here's mine....Dereelight CL1H V3 with 3-stage WC Q4 module...coming soon...I know it is not AA but I also EDC Fenix Digital L2D RB100 Black Premium 100.
 
My wife and I walk through a nature park several times a week after dark. Right now, the JetBeam CL-E v2 fits our requirements the best. Watching deer and other little critters. Good output and runtime. I'd like for a brighter turbo mode that lasted 2 hours if need be, but maybe next year. Single AA is a must.

I'd like a CL-E, AAA size, with the same capabilities as the new MKII that's coming out. Brightness, throw, but double the runtime.

Good quality, HAIII, and under 50 bucks.
 
I have pre-ordered and paid for a JetBeam JetI MKII-R from BugOutGear.com and they promise it for Oct 20. I assume that means the factory will start production on Oct 20 and I'll get it around 2008 LOL. I have the MKII-x and EDC it and couldn't be happier (we'll see).

Happy Lighting!:caution:
 
I've recently started carrying my 1AA MTE rebel light from DX daily. Its damn near as bright as my 3D magled, and blows my Ultrafire 1AA Cree away.

Only thing, it draws around 2amps so you may want to consider rechargable NiMH batts (again, I got mine from the DX).
 
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Flat-line current regulation but kick out before the battery is dead allowing a long dim tail of use.

Throw in a quick flash every minute when the battery is 80% used up.

Price it at least $100+ to allow critical evaluation.


Not that I am demanding or anything.... :)

That's a pretty good set, especially the parts I quoted about the regulation. pretty much sums up my thoughts for the 1xAA form factor, especially with current-day technology. I also like your idea of allowing the LEDs themselves to be swappable -- perhaps even allowing for things like upgrades to next-gen emitters, or even things like different colored LEDs

I would pretty much follow your scheme, but add thermal regulation (the light dims itself to protect itself in the case that it begins to overheat -- I've left even very well heatsinked lights on and found them extremely hot if left in a pocket. With all that money invested in a light it should have that extra level of protection.

The other thing I might consider adding would be extra features like a battery voltage indicator -- my LF2 keychain has this and it's actually quite useful, though a bit tricky to use (since it's a twisty). On a clicky light though, activating it could be a matter of inputting several button-presses rapidly. The light could then "blink out" the current loaded cell voltage, in the brightness setting currently selected. It's a bit of a power-user feature, but I find that's quite useful for gauging how much runtime I have remaining.

I've recently started carrying my 1AA MTE rebel light from DX daily. Its damn near as bright as my 3D magled, and blows my Ultrafire 1AA Cree away.
One of the best bang-for-the-buck lights in existance.
 
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