Any one else tired of CR123 LED lights?
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Black Rose
Flashlight Enthusiast
The real reason we're called flashlight junkies.
Excuse me sir, got any spare change for a CR123A?
I can't say I am tired of them, but I do not use them as much as I used to. With all of the high end AA lights coming out, I personally do not need them as much. I have sold a lot of mine as a matter of fact. There are a few I still use, but only because they take an 18650 single cell, which I trust more than a two cell Lithium cells. I use a Wolf Eyes Guider and a Huntlight quite often. But the lights I normally have on me are AA powered for several reasons:
1. I can get them anywhere at a good price. Sure I can get CR123's at a good price online and stock up, but if I forget them, I will be paying out big bucks to buy them at brick and mortar stores.
2. I do not need a light that puts out 1000 lumens. 60-200 is all I need or use.
3. I can great runtime from AA lights, and I have a great variety of AA types to choose from (Alkaline, Oxyride, NIHM, Lithium).
4. AA batteries are safer.
I wish there was high end C and D lights out there!
Mike
1. I can get them anywhere at a good price. Sure I can get CR123's at a good price online and stock up, but if I forget them, I will be paying out big bucks to buy them at brick and mortar stores.
2. I do not need a light that puts out 1000 lumens. 60-200 is all I need or use.
3. I can great runtime from AA lights, and I have a great variety of AA types to choose from (Alkaline, Oxyride, NIHM, Lithium).
4. AA batteries are safer.
I wish there was high end C and D lights out there!
Mike
Of course charging things is dangerous, not only because of the battery itself, but also because of the charger and user errors. There have been a bunch of threads abouot such incidents on CPF over the years. Of course Li-Ion is even more dangerous than NiMh I guess. I never leave my cellphone on th echarger unattended, for example.
Of course using CR123 is not without any danger, too. BUT ... storing them is. This danger is present when I am with the device and does not oblige me to spend additional time when I do not use the device.
Of course I am negating what you said, because for me personally it is a hassle. Especially all the time I need to invest when the light is not used and all the planning etc.. More sets of batteries don't change this.
It's not that I didn't try. I had a bunch of Li-Ion cells and some NiMh AAs ... and gave them all away. Not for me.
Which is why the CR123 is the only viable alternative for high performance lights. If you don't use rechargeables and need power, this is the way to go. And it is a very acceptable way that I appreciate and like. Which is why CR123 lights are king for me.
bernie
bernie
Hitthespot
Flashlight Enthusiast
I perfectly understand what Bernie is saying. My father being the cheap miser that he is went out and bought all kinds of rechargeable batteries and a charger. After about 6 months of the hastle of charging, not knowing what state the batteries were in, and hearing about fires from charging ( a good friend of ours lost his house because of a shorted battery while charging) my dad said forget it. He hated it, gave everything away, and now only buys primaries. He is a much happier person. So, again I can understand both sides. I tend to want to lean tward AA's because of previous mentioned reasons, but most of my lights are CR123's because I believe at present they represent the best to be had in portable battery operated lighting.
SureFire is going to produce the perfect AA light. I just feel it!😕:shrug:
Happy Holidays
Bill
Perhaps, but when will they *release* it??!
I sorta agree on the hassle factor of rechargeables... not to mention the up-front cost of buying the gear ($40+ for decent recharger and bunch of batteries, depending on number and size). The only time I use rechargeables is for a piece of kit that gets a lot of use and therefore I need just one set of batteries that can be recharged on a regular basis overnight. No way would I be able to (or want to) juggle tons of batteries with a bunch of different lights etc. all being used at different rates. Some folks probably rechargeable-management down pat, but I guess my brain doesn't work that way :thinking:
alfreddajero
Flashlight Enthusiast
It was so easy for me to get into rechargeables because of my RC addiction. If you go with nice lsd's then they would be great in lights..........for me going rechargeable is just cheaper in the long run and it takes about 2hours for a depleted battery to top off.
Nyctophiliac
Flashlight Enthusiast
Basically, I just like torches. The batteries are just a means to work them. If I like the torch enough I'll buy the batts it needs.
ATM I have torches using CR2, CR123A, RCR123A, 14250, 10180, 18650, AA, AAA, C, D on my desk as I type this. They've all got their ups and downs but I did'nt chose any of them because they conform to my battery requirements.
The Light is the thing.
But I was really impressed by alfreddajero's box of batts!! Much respect ... :rock:
Be lucky...
ATM I have torches using CR2, CR123A, RCR123A, 14250, 10180, 18650, AA, AAA, C, D on my desk as I type this. They've all got their ups and downs but I did'nt chose any of them because they conform to my battery requirements.
The Light is the thing.
But I was really impressed by alfreddajero's box of batts!! Much respect ... :rock:
Be lucky...
KiwiMark
Flashlight Enthusiast
KiwiMark
Flashlight Enthusiast
I agree historically there were many hassles - but today we have LSD NiMH cells like Eneloops which are like primaries once charged. There are also battery chargers that are pretty smart and monitor temperatures for safety, no more likely to start a fire than your TV or computer.
KiwiMark
Flashlight Enthusiast
I think Li-Ions are used in almost all SLR cameras these days, I know my old Canon 10D (5 1/2 years old) uses Li-Ion batteries and I am pretty sure every model in the Canon line up also does. I am pretty sure every Nikon also uses Li-Ion.
Jarl
Flashlight Enthusiast
I might be wrong. I know my grandad has had a fair few CR123 powered cameras, though I couldn't give you model names.
Splunk_Au
Enlightened
Nope, he was specifically replying to my post which I talked about NiMH.
Splunk_Au
Enlightened
Alrighty, I never knew some people took the recharging of batteries that much of an issue. I guess Im just used to it since cell phones and most high end cameras require recharging. Oh well, to each his own 🙂
Splunk_Au
Enlightened
Consider this: I don't have to read bazillions of threads about chargers, about rechargeable batteries and the like. I also don't have to buy lights that run on rechargeables exclusively. Saves me time and money and limits the addiction. 😀
Bullzeyebill
Flashaholic
LIMITS THE ADDICTION!!!!:thinking::thinking::thinking:
How can that be. A flashaholic wants to LIMIT THE ADDICTION??????😱😱😱😱
Bill
Jedi Knife
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I checked a few current models of Canon SLRs and it looks to me like they might be using their own manufacturer-specific battery packs, from what I can find. I didn't do a comprehensive check, though, so I might have missed a lot.
My Lith-ion charger died, and I don't think I am going to replace it, for many of the reasons mentioned here. I bought a bunch of 123s on sale (10), which will give me a year or two's worth of batts at my usage.
The reason for being so light on 123s though, is that my edc is a D10 run on eneloops. The eneloops hold many of the advantages of a 123, and in a smart charger are ultra simple to use. After a day of heavy use, or a week of normal, I take a battery out of the box, and put the old one on the charger. I always have plenty of runtime, and my running costs are next to nothing.
Just to recap "EVERYBODY NEEDS ENELOOPS WITH A SMART CHARGER" if they want to go easier on the 123s.
The reason for being so light on 123s though, is that my edc is a D10 run on eneloops. The eneloops hold many of the advantages of a 123, and in a smart charger are ultra simple to use. After a day of heavy use, or a week of normal, I take a battery out of the box, and put the old one on the charger. I always have plenty of runtime, and my running costs are next to nothing.
Just to recap "EVERYBODY NEEDS ENELOOPS WITH A SMART CHARGER" if they want to go easier on the 123s.
