Any rumors as to when we will see a fenix mc-e or p7 light?

[Ty_Bower]

Apples to apples, AA lithium primaries have more stored energy than CR123 primaries...

Way off topic, but maybe what the world needs is a good alkaline two-thirds A cell.

 

[Tim B]

Okay, if this is the TK-40 then is there also a TK-30 or did they skip a number after TK-20?

 

[Outdoors Fanatic]

Okay, if this is the TK-40 then is there also a TK-30 or did they skip a number after TK-20?

The TK-30 will be the 4xCR123 model and the TK-50 will be its bigger brother-- sporting a 3x18650 battery holder...

*cross fingers*

 

[Stephan_L]

Hi everybody,

@4sevens:

Man ... you (and Fenix) got me once again! I am writing that I would like to see a multi - die light with 3 or 4 x CR123 and just some time later, you post the following:

We will be getting another light this week that uses the mce that has the option of 1x18650, 2x18650, 2x123, 4x123.

I hope you meant a Fenix - Light!?!?!?!
If so, would you please give us some more information??? Maybe the series (TK - series / PD - series / a hybrid like I mentioned)?????

I will have a very close look for that light and I am already thinking about getting it! Even after I have promised my wife, NOT to get another light in the first half of 2009! But hey - I am going to be a flashaholic! And I always need some toys to play around with!


Bye,

Stephan

 

[naked2]

It's similar to when audio equipment mfrs state frequency response as

"20-20,000 Hz
38-16,000 Hz +/- 3 dB"

Some of the less-reputable companies provide only the first specification: 20-20,000 Hz, so that unsuspecting buyers think "Oh wow, these $5 headphones are just as good as your $200 headphones (which have a specification of 20-20,000 Hz +/- 3 dB)"

JetBeam is honourable enough to provide both specifications.

IMO, a perfect analogy.

Evaluate a light for what it is, not for what you want it to be.

IMO, an excellent philosophy.

But about the 8x AA vs. other sizes/options, I'm suprised no one's mentioned the option of 2x D Li ion (though I think someone did mention 2x D alkaline). If it could use both, it'd have great options for both laymen and flashaholics.

 

[swrdply400mrelay]

Hi everybody,

@4sevens:

Man ... you (and Fenix) got me once again! I am writing that I would like to see a multi - die light with 3 or 4 x CR123 and just some time later, you post the following:

I hope you meant a Fenix - Light!?!?!?!
If so, would you please give us some more information??? Maybe the series (TK - series / PD - series / a hybrid like I mentioned)?????

I will have a very close look for that light and I am already thinking about getting it! Even after I have promised my wife, NOT to get another light in the first half of 2009! But hey - I am going to be a flashaholic! And I always need some toys to play around with!


Bye,

Stephan

i think he's talking about tiablo

 

[naked2]

i think he's talking about tiablo

7777 has already announced the ACE, besides it doesn't use 2x 123. I think it's another Fenix.

 

[daveman]

Not at this point. We will be getting another light this week that uses the mce that has the option of 1x18650, 2x18650, 2x123, 4x123. 🙂

It can't be the Tiablo then, as the ACE requires at least 2x18650 to run the emitter.

I'm hoping it'll be a Fenix.

 

[Burgess]

Even after I have promised my wife,
NOT to get another light in the first half of 2009!

You can always tell her you meant the first month of 2009!


😗

_

 

[neoseikan]

It can't be the Tiablo then, as the ACE requires at least 2x18650 to run the emitter.

I'm hoping it'll be a Fenix.

1X18650 is not good at driving MCE IMO.
But I think a MCE version MULE will be quite good.

 

[Badbeams3]

Not at this point. We will be getting another light this week that uses the mce that has the option of 1x18650, 2x18650, 2x123, 4x123. 🙂

Spill the beans...whats the light out this week

 

[Badbeams3]

Perhaps this one https://www.4sevens.com/product_info.php?products_id=692&osCsid=15dcd92eebb9e21a635b199b32693aca In the Dealers announcment thread the claim that it runs on 1 18650 or other combos is made...think the link just left out that option.

 

[oregon]

1X18650 is not good at driving MCE IMO.

In what way(s) does the 1x18650 fall short of good when driving the MCE? I have a ElektroLumens EDC-P7 with a MCE LED that I can't fault (it makes everyone that turns it on at night utter oaths). Go ahead and break my heart if you can. I like my eyes open. Additional pics of this light on page 14 here: http://www.cpfmarketplace.com/mp/showthread.php?t=182079&page=14

oregon

 

[neoseikan]

In what way(s) does the 1x18650 fall short of good when driving the MCE? I have a ElektroLumens EDC-P7 with a MCE LED that I can't fault (it makes everyone that turns it on at night utter oaths). Go ahead and break my heart if you can. I like my eyes open. Additional pics of this light on page 14 here: http://www.cpfmarketplace.com/mp/showthread.php?t=182079&page=14


oregon

Emm. Of course it can drive a MCE, but I meant, it can not perform as good as 2 or 3 * 18650.

 

[ergotelis]

Neoseikan means that driving a MCE under only one 18650 is not that good idea, assuming that you need a decent runtime and output. It is difficult for most 18650 to keep driving for an hour@2 amp the led and with bad regulation. We did not take into account the efficiency of the driver as long as the discharge rate of a 18650 at 2 amp and the voltage drop of the battery by draining such a high amp.
Now, if someone needs half an hour for a flashlight with a MCE@3amp, that another story.

 

[neoseikan]

Neoseikan means that driving a MCE under only one 18650 is not that good idea, assuming that you need a decent runtime and output. It is difficult for most 18650 to keep driving for an hour@2 amp the led and with bad regulation. We did not take into account the efficiency of the driver as long as the discharge rate of a 18650 at 2 amp and the voltage drop of the battery by draining such a high amp.
Now, if someone needs half an hour for a flashlight with a MCE@3amp, that another story.

Yes. That's my idea. I think TK40's 8 AA is a good idea. It can be quite good.
But, how the 8 batteries are put together?
2*4?
I didn't hear anything in Chinese forums.

 

[ergotelis]

I think the best idea is 2 parallel in 2 series dies.Higher voltage will help in less resistance and higher efficiency result. About 7,2V should be needed.about 9,6V input, taking in account the classic energy being lost we can get at least 1,5 hours regulated at max output(700 per die).

 

[naked2]

Perhaps this one https://www.4sevens.com/product_info.php?products_id=692&osCsid=15dcd92eebb9e21a635b199b32693aca In the Dealers announcment thread the claim that it runs on 1 18650 or other combos is made...think the link just left out that option.

Like I already said, 7777 already announced the ACE; the new light is to be announced.

 

[extremetito]

Light Reviews notes that the ACE will run off a single 18650 ("high capacity only"). But not very well.
http://www.light-reviews.com/tiablo_ace/

 

[Stephan_L]

Hey 4sevens,


you can not treat us like that ... that is not fair:mecry:

We (or at last I) want some information on that new 2 or 4x CR123 or 1 or 2x 18650 light!

You did not even say that it actually is a Fenix - light! And you said, you would get it this week! OK, now it is almost the end of the week!

Now come on, please give us some information! PLEASE!


Bye,

Stephan 😉