Any word yet on Firefoxes FF5?

[LuxLuthor]

That's great Bob!

 

[LuxLuthor]

No, I'm not concerned. I'm just wondering if he can get me some FF3 and possibly FF4 lenses to ad to my order if I order some spare bulbs.

My FF3 lense has the typical fogging issue. And I love this light and the size otherwise. And it's always good to have a spare couple lenses if it gets dropped hard or something too.

Neil just FB messaged me that he did get a spare lens for the FF4, but not FF3. He wants you to contact him as he is saving it for you.

 

[LuxLuthor]

Just got mine and all the spare parts. This is dramatically brighter than FF4!

Also the battery carriers are the same as for FF3 & FF4

 

[ampdude]

Thanks a lot Lux! I just sent Neil an email. I received my shipment as well today!

 

[Alex1234]

I received my 6000k FF5 today and all the accessories . Its great. Comparing both the 6000k and the 4300k there is definitely a bit of difference. The 6000k is closer to neutral white. it makes the warmth of the 4300k really stand out. I prefer the 4300k but like both.

 

[LuxLuthor]

I'm guessing the 6000 is brighter on a practical basis.

When I just compared the high setting compared to the FF4, it seemed like it was twice as bright and dramatically more throw. I didn't expect this much of a surprising increased performance, but honestly it blows the earlier models away.

Although it is larger in width, length, and weight, I like how the longer body gives your hand a more secure grip. The FF4 was too short for your whole hand to grip the body.

This is a must buy for this reasonable price for any serious flashaholic.

 

[ampdude]

Yes, I found the FF3 to be the perfect coat pocket rocket size, while the FF5 is handheld beast that we all wanted. The FF4 is somewhere in between and fills a nitch on a belt holster.

I really like that I don't have to worry about battery carriers for any of these anymore. I'll probably start using them more, none of my Firefoxes have seen much use from me.

 

[BVH]

Alex, I assume you meant 4300K, not 3400K. And the 6000K is really a 5500K as marked on my lamp base. So the two are not far apart from each other. Being 5500K, it should be brighter than the 4300K. 5500K is about the peak brightness and it begins to taper off going up from there. I call 5500K "Diamond White" and it's my sweet spot.

 

[Alex1234]

6000K VS 4300K

Not a huge difference but its noticeable. First photo and last two show it the best. The rest not so much. The camera kept adjusting. Its more noticeable then the rest of the photos suggest. I like both Tints. Fire-Foxes nailed it with these lights. The only two suggestions i have for them is proper bulb alignment. The second one i got the 6000k version has the bulb is not perfectly aligned. its not that bad. The beam is just slightly off from perfect but hardly noticeable. Not worth trying to fix. The next thing is the clear Orings that come on the light. THEY SUCK. an oring in the tailcap on the first sample i got broke just by opening the tailcap for the first time and the second sample one overstretched beyond saving on the head and tailcap. The grease they use sucks as well. I cleaned all the threads and replaced the orings that broke and regressed with high quality synthetic grease. Regressing makes the thread smoothness way better. The diffusers are awesome. Turns it into a awesome flood light.


Right 6000K Left 4300K
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Diffuser filter

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[LuxLuthor]

Alex, great beamshots. We need to do a FF3, 4, & 5 in sequence.

 

[ampdude]

That is awesome, what type of o-rings did you replace them with? I haven't taken a tailcap off yet. I'd like to do a FF3, 4, & 5 next to each other in one photo, but I don't have enough batteries and the best camera I have is on a phone from 2016.

 

[Alex1234]

That is awesome, what type of o-rings did you replace them with? I haven't taken a tailcap off yet. I'd like to do a FF3, 4, & 5 next to each other in one photo, but I don't have enough batteries and the best camera I have is on a phone from 2016.

I just replaced them with the black orings that come with the light. They seam better then the clear ones that came on the ff5

 

[LuxLuthor]

That is awesome, what type of o-rings did you replace them with? I haven't taken a tailcap off yet. I'd like to do a FF3, 4, & 5 next to each other in one photo, but I don't have enough batteries and the best camera I have is on a phone from 2016.

There are lots of places to get a cheap box of assorted o-rings

https://www.mcmaster.com/93135K31/

https://www.applerubber.com/product...Ls7yM_NokahK6ISDElkfcBelj0_gt4ysaAp9CEALw_wcB

Or search for "assorted o rings" on Amazon. Like this box of 1200 rings for $20.

 

[Alex1234]

My 4300k ff5 is slightly better focused then my 6000k ff5. To my eyes the throw on both dont look much different. I get a higher ceiling bounce number with the 6000K but I only measure 900KCD with the 6000K version and a whopping 1.1 - 1.2 MCD with the 4300K version. Its kinda odd

 

[badtziscool]

My 4300k ff5 is slightly better focused then my 6000k ff5. To my eyes the throw on both dont look much different. I get a higher ceiling bounce number with the 6000K but I only measure 900KCD with the 6000K version and a whopping 1.1 - 1.2 MCD with the 4300K version. Its kinda odd

I don't think that's too odd. A focus that's even slightly off will most definitely affect the beam and the concentration of the hot spot. Another thing to consider (though I don't think it's happening here) is that wavelengths that are lower (longer?) in the spectrum tend to get scattered less as it travels through the air, and so technically, warmer tinted lights should be able to throw further. It's actually kind of evident in your distance shots. Again, I don't think its enough to reduce the candela by 200k, but it could be contributing to it.

 

[BVH]

badtzicool, would you post a side-by-side pic of the hotspots/corona of your two lights in the same photo against the same color background, like a white garage door or? The reason being, I have got my new second 6000K version and it's color measures only 4500K (on high) using my highly accurate Sekonic c-7000 meter and it looks identical to my first light. The ceramic base is marked 5500K, so not a 4300K nor a 6000K. Even though its marked 5500K, it measures only 4500K. I'm beginning to think there is only one version - the "4300K".

 

[badtziscool]

Hi there BVH.

Unfortunately I do not have both versions. Alex1234 is the one that has both versions and I believe he has the "6000k" version up for sale, so I don't know if he still has it. But from the pics he's posted, there is a temp difference between the two.

badtzicool, would you post a side-by-side pic of the hotspots/corona of your two lights in the same photo against the same color background, like a white garage door or? The reason being, I have got my new second 6000K version and it's color measures only 4500K (on high) using my highly accurate Sekonic c-7000 meter and it looks identical to my first light. The ceramic base is marked 5500K, so not a 4300K nor a 6000K. Even though its marked 5500K, it measures only 4500K. I'm beginning to think there is only one version - the "4300K".

 

[BVH]

Opps, mis-read the posts. All I had to do is look up at Alex's shots. I'm not seeing a difference in the two in the above pics other than in the first beam photo only shot. The rest, to me, don't represent a 4300K v 5500K. But these are photos, not real life. Guess I'll have to be happy with what they are.

 

[badtziscool]

There's one photo in Alex1234 sales post that probably shows the color difference the best. I think it might be what you're looking for. https://www.candlepowerforums.com/v...S-FF5-6000K-with-accessories(SOLD)&highlight=

Opps, mis-read the posts. All I had to do is look up at Alex's shots. I'm not seeing a difference in the two in the above pics other than in the first beam photo only shot. The rest, to me, don't represent a 4300K v 5500K. But these are photos, not real life. Guess I'll have to be happy with what they are.

 

[Alex1234]

Fire Fox FF5 VS the MT90VN+ Spec C beamshots

my Lux Measurements
FF5: 1.2MCD
MT90VN+ 3.3 MCD


The Mt90VN+ is one hell of a light. It can run turbo indefinitely without step down. after 10 minutes on turbo its just slightly warm. the k75vn on the other hand gets scolding hot after 2 minutes lol. ceiling bounce shows the MT90Vn+ spec C a smidge brigher at turn on. output drops quick on the K75vn as it gets hot but the MT90vn+ barley drops. Its quite impressive and this is without the fan. I dont even think it would get warm at all if you used the fan.I have never had a LED light with this kind of performance where i did not have to worry about step down or heat. CD to dollar ratio is crazy here. Its just over 5000 kcd per dollar. There is no HID light that i know of that can beat this for the price. The Lemax LX70 superpower head will beat it but its over $3000 maybe even more. I think the super head does like 4.5 mcd(4250 meters) if i remember correctly. Its only like 1000 kcd per dollar give or take depending on price.


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