Anyone have the Olight M31?

[HKJ]

My lux measurements does match rather well with the pictures:

Measured at 4 meter and calculated to 1 meter.
Measuring the total amount of light with a ceiling bounce, the lights are closer in output, but keeps the same sequence.

Also remember that leds has tolerances, i.e. there can be a difference between two of the same lights. I have access to two Cat II, they have about the same throw, but in a ceiling bounce there are 10% difference between them.

 

[learner-gr]

Is that real that M2S can't use flat top aw batteries like this ?
http://blackforce.stores.yahoo.net/aw186502600mah.html

 

[HKJ]

Is that real that M2S can't use flat top aw batteries like this ?
http://blackforce.stores.yahoo.net/aw186502600mah.html

No, M2S has a mechanical polarity protection that prevents use of flat top batteries.

 

[uzirif]

rofl u going to compare a sst-50 monster thrower against a dowdy cree led?
:fail:

1000 lumen vs 240 lumen?


the Catapult is for SURE the better thrower.
Much much deeper reflector and extremely bright led.

will compare more tonight.

I also couldn't belive that the catv2 is slightly brighter!

curious.

Well it is not so simple. My RRT-1 (SMO) seems to throw farther than my Cat V2 (SMO), even examining the beams toward the sky.
I adore the Catapult V2, it is way more usable at medium-high distances given its great output and its bigger hotspot but at very far distances the Raptor is brighter.
I must admit I was not expecting that :duh2: I must try again 😱oo:.

It is a FLASHLIGHT.

Yeah, it is a 240 lumen light, so? It got a Cree R2 with a huge reflector which gives it AMAZING throw, better than the Catapult V2 (In my eyes) I was testing it at Norway's brightest sunlite at night, June 23th.
The Cree R2 is much better for throw than other LED's.

Well, your experience confirms my impressions, at least my eyes don't deceive me .

 

[learner-gr]

Are there any AW batteries 18650 without flat top ?

 

[lew187]

Also remember that leds has tolerances, i.e. there can be a difference between two of the same lights. I have access to two Cat II, they have about the same throw, but in a ceiling bounce there are 10% difference between them.

be sure u use fully and fresh loaded batteries! and the same in both lights.

ur lux diagramm is fine, but in real world performance u can SEE the slightly difference.

32 to 40k lux is not that much as it look like.

in brightnes it is minimal...

did u use the m2s with op or smo? smo gives more lux.. cause tighter spot.

@leaner

yes, does exist.
I have 2.
2600mah, 3,7v.

 

[HKJ]

be sure u use fully loaded batteries! and the same in both lights.

That is not really necessary in the Cat V2, it has a very good stabilization (As you can see in my review).

ur lux diagramm is fine, but in real world performance u can SEE the slightly difference.

32 to 40k lux is not that much as it look like.

in brightnes it is minimal...

Yes, it is a small change because the eye has a logarithmic sensitivity.

 

[learner-gr]

@leaner

yes, does exist.
I have 2.
2600mah, 3,7v.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the rapid answers to all of you here. Sorry about my lot questions. Trying to learn some things.

a) As far as i learned aw batteries is the most quality for flashlights like M2S?
b) Are there any photo to saw the difference between flat top aw batteries and the other aw batteries?

 

[lew187]

here u go http://www.cpfmarketplace.com/mp/showthread.php?p=2513217#post2513217
aw is best. ofcourse also for m2s. take 2 * 18500 batteries for the m2s. thats best performance without using the extender! 🙂
but u need a charger.

@hkj
so how we leave it? 😀

i don't think that i got a bad flashlight or something...

u really can't say that the brightnes difference is much as u show in the pics on page 1. please....

 

[jirik_cz]

I measured 37k lux with M31. So pretty close to HKJ results. Also had a chance to play with M2S OP and it is no competition for M31.

 

[lew187]

why no competition?
there is no big difference.

m31 throws further... m2s more for closer range.

🙂

 

[HKJ]

a) As far as i learned aw batteries is the most quality for flashlights like M2S?
b) Are there any photo to saw the difference between flat top aw batteries and the other aw batteries?

You can see the difference here.

AW are accepted as a good quality battery and the 2200 mAh is with button top, I have compare some different 18650 here.

i don't think that i got a bad flashlight or something...

u really can't say that the brightnes difference is much as u show in the pics on page 1. please....

Pictures does never show the same as the eyes sees, but around here it is accepted to use a camera with fixed exposure to show the difference between flashlights.

I measured 37k lux with M31. So pretty close to HKJ results.

That is one reason I usual only show relative result, not lux measurements, each lux meter gives a different result.

 

[lew187]

@hkj

correct, but your pics look like the m2s is off and the m31 is on 🙂
it's a little bit huge... cud u make some pics with low exposure? iso100 and does it look like seeing with ur eyes.

i will try it later and post pics.

 

[HKJ]

correct, but your pics look like the m2s is off and the m31 is on 🙂
it's a little bit huge... cud u make some pics with low exposure? iso100 and does it look like seeing with ur eyes.

I can show the pictures with different exposure:

M2S, M31, Catapult V2 at 160 meter with reduced exposure:

M2S, M31, Catapult V2 at 160 meter:

M2S, M31, Catapult V2 at 160 meter with increased exposure:

None of the pictures matches what I see, number 2 row is closest to the visual impression, but does not show the full extend of the spill. But taking this kind of beamshots I do never try to match the actual visual impression, some of the reasons are that my eyes does not get dark adapter when doing a beamshot and peoples eyes has different sensitivity to light. I.e. even if I matched the bright parts to what I see, the next guy would see it different.

Edit:
I forgot to mention that adjustment of your monitor will also change the pictures.

 

[lew187]

row 2 is to extreme.

row 3 is good although with high exposure.

hhhmm... maybe ur m2s is not ok?! don't know why but it looks like ur m2s wud run with 400 lumen or anything in row 2.😕

 

[learner-gr]

You can see the difference here.

AW are accepted as a good quality battery and the 2200 mAh is with button top, I have compare some different 18650 here.


Amazing. Thanks a lot. lovecpf

 

[HKJ]

row 2 is to extreme.

row 3 is good although with high exposure.

I might have placed the exposure between row 2 and 3, if M31 was the most powerful light in the beamshot, but I needed range for some brighter lights.

hhhmm... maybe ur m2s is not ok?! don't know why but it looks like ur m2s wud run with 400 lumen or anything in row 2.😕

My M2S has more lumen than Fenix TK40 and also more throw than TK40 (A 600 lumen light), but are in the same ballpark.

 

[lew187]

and now? 🙂

my m2s is really bright. Maybe it is a photographic effect.
I don't think that my M31 is not bright enough. The cat v2 is also bright.. I wud guess between m2s and m31.

 

[learner-gr]

I think that time has come to buy the M2S. Can't wait anymore 😀

Maybe you get the edge to throw with the M31 but overall i think the M2S is better. Yours opinions are welcome.

 

[SCpooh]

I'm kind of disappointed in my M2S. I tried to use it during a rifle/carbine class, but had to switch to the M1x. Batteries rattled like crazy with and without the extender and the light would flicker and change modes everytime the rifle went off. No issues with the M1x. Following this thread hoping that the M31 would fare better.