Anyone Seen This - CCFL

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Looks like a standard ArcWhite in a fancy clear case... IMHO: Junk...
http://thelightsite.cruxial.com/reviews/ener_arcwhite.htm
 
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The advertised 8 to 10 hours of flourescent lighting time is quite impressive, if it holds.

How bright is the CCFT ? Reviews says it never needs replacement.
 
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As far as the Arc-White:

I like the concept. I would like to find a CCFL flashlight that was as small as it can be, and doesn't come with an incandescant spotlight attached. Are there any CCFL flashlights that aren't the Arc-White?

-Kevin
 
I thought the Arc-White was a generally well liked flashlight. I like the look of the new translucent case.
 
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As far as the Arc-White:

I like the concept. I would like to find a CCFL flashlight that was as small as it can be, and doesn't come with an incandescant spotlight attached. Are there any CCFL flashlights that aren't the Arc-White?
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How about this? It's pretty small and seems more robust than ArcWhite. I got this around 1 year ago (can't remember too well) and paid $20 for it. I still use it intensively.

It has very good idea but could be a lot better. It has a belt clip on its back making it very convenient to carry around the camp or where ever you use it.

Disadvantage :

1) the led is not brightest. I guess it was set to use 20ma as it was designed in the very early stage before other manufacturers start overdriving LED.
2) the ccft is a bit greenish compare with ArcWhite. ArcWhite is VERY white and bright. May be it was setup as a reading light instead of an area light.

Despite of above complaint, it is a good travel light.

Alan
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>I thought the Arc-White was a generally well liked flashlight. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

In general, it is. But well-liked does not equal well-made. IMHO, it's junk. The only good thing about it is the CCFT. Just don't drop it in a puddle...
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Quickbeam:
In general, it is. But well-liked does not equal well-made. IMHO, it's junk. The only good thing about it is the CCFT. Just don't drop it in a puddle...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Exactly. I own 5 of these. CCFT is awsome. The Halogen lamp is junk, except for one of my lamps that has a clean, bright narrow beam.

I took out the halogen bulb and put in a PR base LED bulb.

The physical light poorly made. BUT the CCFT light is wonderful.

I am in the process of mounting two onto belt clips, one on each side of my hip, for general walking at night.

During the Houston Flood a year ago, I used this light to work in my office (in complete total darkness except for this light) to remove computer equipment to higher ground.

The light lasted for many hours, gave even, bright light, it was like a mini lantern.

If energizer would just look at how great / crappy this light is, and improved the physical light and put an LED or LED Cluster in the head, and put a reflector under the CCFT bulb (instead of the white background), man, they would have a great light!
 
Wow, that's cool... I might have to get one. Although, I am looking for something a litle more weatherproof (gasketed?).

I've been reading CCFL info for a good part of the afternoon, and it looks as though I can probably make my own?!? I'm thinking 4 123 batteries, a 12VDC inverter for the CCFL, and of course the CCFL tube (maybe 2?) mounted in a clear otterbox. Much like Aragorn's 2 Versalux otterbox. I'm thinking 4 3V batteries and a 12V inverter because of the ease of obtaining the 12V inverters. I guess some people are putting CCFLs on their cars and there are kits set up for a 12V system for sale everywhere.

-Kevin
 
Alan-I bought that same light from the same guy 2 days ago. It is my second one. It's CCFT measures just as bright as my Arcwhite, but as you said, it's color is "colder"-like the Arc-LE is to the reg. Arc-AAA.

It's a great little CCFT light, and 50% brighter than the first one, and has an integral (mediocre) white LED flashlight in it's end. It's real name is: Hiltra-from the Hilton Trading Co. -An absolute steal at $9.99-U.S.

p.s.-today I have to see if I can find that powerful Radio Shack pocket fluorescent (called Osram in UK), to replace the one I just gave to Lightlover
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-I'm sure glad I'm not fascinated with lights...
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by mr.glow:
Alan-I bought that same light from the same guy 2 days ago. It is my second one. It's CCFT measures just as bright as my Arcwhite, but as you said, it's color is "colder"-like the Arc-LE is to the reg. Arc-AAA.

It's a great little CCFT light, and 50% brighter than the first one, and has an integral (mediocre) white LED flashlight in it's end. It's real name is: Hiltra-from the Hilton Trading Co. -An absolute steal at $9.99-U.S.
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Mr. Glow, when did you get your first one? A long time ago or also just recently? May be they use better CCFT nowadays. If so, I probably get one more.

TIA.

Alan
 
"and put a reflector under the CCFT bulb (instead of the white background)"... No, at least not a mirror finish reflector.

I've also got a combo incandescent/CCFL torch (not the ArcWhite) and the CCFL has a mirror reflector behind it. While it may increase the candlepower, it does so rather unevenly.

I was thinking of tearing the torch apart and putting a piece of ultra-white paper between the CCFL and the reflector.

Oh and the LED cluster idea... great. With a new aluminium case, it could be Energizer's new Premium line long-life torch. I'd be first to pick one up!
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Alan:
Mr. Glow, when did you get your first one? A long time ago or also just recently? May be they use better CCFT nowadays. If so, I probably get one more.

TIA.

Alan
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I bought the first one in 1997 from Lifestyle Fascinations in New Jersey @ $20.(U.S.). It came with a little red LED instead of the white one. It still works just fine to this day, but the newer one is a stronger performer. If I didn't have two already, I'd grab that Ebay one
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Well I ordered the one on ebay. I am getting in to the area light and it seems CCFT puts out the most light per watt in this size light, of course it is area light rather then a flashlight.
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Brock:
Well I ordered the one on ebay. I am getting in to the area light and it seems CCFT puts out the most light per watt in this size light, of course it is area light rather then a flashlight.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hope you will post your impression of the light when you receive it.
 
Ok, I got the little CCFT. It is much nicer then I would have thought. The case is relatively cheap, but it is brighter then the CCFT in the Eveready Arc White. It is also much smaller. It uses 4 AAA cells and was pulling about 350mA, so maybe 2.5 hours of light on one battery change. It gives off more light for the power then the Eveready also. The tube itself can swivel around and tilt separate from the rest of the light. I think it is a good buy for $15.

Oh it does have a little white LED in it also, that is pulling about 30mA, so it would last a long time on the LED. It makes a great room light. I wish they made the same thing in a 4AA version for a really long runtime, but this does the job quite well.
 
Brock,

Thanks for the mini-review. Could you tell us what the dimensions of this light are (when folded-up)? When I asked, the seller didn't answer that question.

Thanks!
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Mike:
Brock,

Thanks for the mini-review. Could you tell us what the dimensions of this light are (when folded-up)? When I asked, the seller didn't answer that question.
Thanks!
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Mike-I know you didn't ask
me, but since I have 2 of those lights..
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, the dimensions are 6" x 1.5" x .5" an extremely compact little fluorescent lamp that has a nice little spring clamp to hold it to your pocket or belt-AND a 360° adjustable reflector. -Very nice light!

p.s.-the inner channel that the very thin CCFT tube folds into can be lined with glow tape, and charges up like a champ!
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For battery life estimates, the Arc white CCFL draws about 300mA at 6 volts (1.8w).

For those who want to make their own CCFL light, inverters are generally available in 12 volts and 5 volts. The 5 volts are harder to find, but Electronics Goldmine Has some, All Electronics sells them too, but at a much higher price. BG micro has some 12" blacklight and some colored CCFL tubes. So does All Electronics. They both have 12 volt CCFL inverters

Lowest draw I've seen for 12 volt CCFL inverters is 160 mA, driving a tube about 10 inches long, thats 1.92 watts. More typical is 200 mA, but many drive 2 tubes and draw perhaps 700mA.

As a light source, I'd say they are right in there with luxeon stars for amount of light and efficiency, but I havn't gotten arround to using my light meter to test this and havn't deceided how to adjust for the different radiating patterns.

You can scavenge CCFL inverters from very old laptops, particularly those with cracked screens or otherwise beat up. There is a wide range of types, some are even regulated to some extent. The simplest will have 2 color coded power leads and 2 silicon-rubber leads for the CCFL tube. But more often the inverters have more than just 2 power leads. The extra pins often include an enable that should be tied to one or the other power lead thru a resistor to get the light to turn on. (might not need the resistor, but it is safer). There also might be a brightness control line that is a logic level that can provide various brightnesses thru pulse width modulation, or just 2 levels by tieing it thru a resistor like the enable. You might also encounter an analog brightness control with three pins that would connect to a slide pot. This may give you three levels without the pot; tie the slider to the low end, let it float, or tie it to the high end. Adjustments are generally from mid-bright to full-bright; the lowest light level is still pretty bright.

Figuring out which pin is which can be tricky because of these variations. You can usually locate - by the pin that goes to the broadest trace, which is likely ground. + often goes thru a miniture fuse (check the fuse if you're getting nowhere as one brief reverse voltage will blow it. If there is no fuse, one broef reverse voltage will smoke the trasistors) before going to an input capacitor. If there is an electrolytic capacitor anywhere on the board, it can be another clue as to what is plus or minus. As I said, there is often an enable that must be tied to + or - before you get any light. After that the remaining pins, if any, would be brightness controls of some form. The leads that go to the CCFL tubes generally are on a separate connector from power & control. One pin of the CCFL always goes to a 3 or 4 kv capacitor and then to the transformer. The other CCFL lead may go to ground, or, in regulated CCFL boards, it may go thru a network that lets the board detect current. There are a few CCFL inverters I havn't figured out; I get them to light but they run very hot. I suspect they want a voltage other than 5v or 12v. There are also laptops where the inverter is integrated in with other circuits, like the bias supply for the LCD.

There are some nasty voltages involved with CCFL, perhaps 600 volts of high frequency AC and more when not under load. Shocks from the CCFL leads hurt, but not too bad, and are always accompanied by the smell of burning flesh. Such shocks can sometimes come off the transformer just by getting too close. Unlike the similar inverters that drive strobes, CCFL inverters do not have a diode and capacitor to store up a whopping big charge, so they will more likely hurt and give you burns and are less likely to kill you.
 
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