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An idea to help resolve Arc-AAA colours and tail design issues-

if there are any Web-heads out there- would putting together an open voting page, where members can vote-with-a-click for their favourite colour or design help ?
Then we can discuss the 'Arc Charts' 🙂
-just think of the potential advertising revenue, zillions of people, all shaping the future ;-)
 
Well....don't stone me, but I think I'm the Lone Ranger here. Calling that "blue" is REALLY a stretch. I'd much prefer the standard black or normal HA finish or even silver...but what would be more appropriate IMHO would be a "functional" improvement like a clip/lanyard/holster, etc.
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Wow! Can't wait to see what Peter has to say about all these going-ons.

I REALLY don't think the turquoise EV has a chance anymore (since those have already been put in 3.0 cases are being shipped soon), so we really don't need to bark up that tree anymore. I just wish there had been more support (not Empath, you unerstand
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) for the brightest turquoise earlier... Oh well. Water under the bridge, that ship has sailed, etc.

I'm pretty sure these CPF units will be white since Peter found the stash of 100 SB1 units.

And I wanted to mention here, again, that the SB1 is NOT brighter than the white in the standard AAA. It is just a slightly different tint. Most people like the tint better, and it is more rare, certainly. But to the best of my knowledge, SB1 is not brighter than SB2. I keep hearing folks talk about the LE as being "brighter" when it really is not. Since my idea of a CPF edition with the brightest available turquoise LED got no votes early on, it looks like we'll be getting the white LED that is already found in the LE, and is the same brightness as the standard white. In other words, the CPF unit will now only be unique in color and inscription.

Yes, I am crying a little tear over here. Sniff.

It'll be a great light. I but already have tons of great Arc lights. I really was hoping for something great AND truly unique. But like most of you - I'll take what I can get.
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by darell:
See Peter? All the turquoise fans are coming out of the woodwork now.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Uh Oh! I guess I have to come forward to put my vote in for white.
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if there are any Web-heads out there- would putting together an open voting page, where members can vote-with-a-click for their favourite colour or design help ?


I already did! To choose the colour of the light`s body. It got just over a hundred votes, and has since been promptly ignored
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I think the dark blue idea came along before I set that poll up, and since blue seemed the most popular anyway, that`s the one that stayed.


I do think it`s a little too dark, but of course if it means it`s going to be really hard wearing and not end up worn smooth after a few months of regular carrying, then that`s a good thing, right? and of course, not everyone`s screens will render the colour correctly, so in reality it`s probably going to be more notieably blue.


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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by darell:
See Peter? All the turquoise fans are coming out of the woodwork now.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


actually, I'd rather it not be turquoise. White, green, or red would have been my preference. But, I will buy one b/c my wife likes the case color.
 
White, white, white.

Can't deal with the thought of standing in my closet with a flashlight and not be able to tell what color shirt I am pulling out.

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Yeah... who's that idiot that keeps harping about turquoise anyway? Who invited him?

Seeing as how the CPF edition is going to have a white SB1, I've decided that's what I want too!

Don't you guys worry about me (seems to be no risk of that
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) I've got a lock on the EV's.
 
Well, if I could get two of them, I'd definitely want one of the special Turquoise ones..but if I have to choose, I agree that white is better.

Graham
 
Turquoise only...baad...turquoise and white...goood...verry goood.

Repeat ten times if confusion is still present.
 
agree white good
turq nice but not as practical (see shirt puller guy post)


QUESTION

what is the possiblility of crushing the circut in the arc aaa by twisting down too tight, or will u be more likely to collapse the battery terminal first?

thanks.
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Steelhead:
Hi, I'm new to the ARC world but already I love the products. I do however have a few questions.

1.) What is the significance of the chemkote interior on the new 3.0 versions? Is it simply aesthetic?

2.) How does the brightnes of the ev turquoise compare to either the LE white or equally as important the standard AAA turquoise?

3.) The finish HA3 and especially the color of the LE is exquisite. Could the standard AAA be produced in this color in the future especially since the finish on both le and aaa is now HA anyway. A color choice of black or natural would be welcome although of course I cannot speak for everyone. The LE would be distinguished from the aaa natural HA both by it's SB1 bulb and of course the LE engraving on the case itself. Anyone out there agree with my suggestion/opinion.

4.) Finally, what is on the horizon as far as led bulbs. Are there any brighter than SB1 rank currently or soon to come? Hope they can be incorporated in future arc models.

Thanks peter and the rest of this excellent forum for any insights.

Keep up the wonderful R&D. Your products are impressive and seem to become more so each day.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Welcome Steelhead!

1. Chemkote (clear alodine, chemfilm, etc) is a treatment added to improve corrosion resistance and conductivity. The gold tint may be nice, but it is a side effect of the process.

2. The EV rank Turquiose produces more output than any other Arc-AAA color or rank. I visually compared the EV with the normal turquiose rank informally in a well lit QC area and they seemed almost the same to me. The numbers say though that the EV is about 1cd or more brighter than the normal turquiose we use.

3. Oh I agree, the natural finish is quite nice. We could offer the color as an option for the standard Arc-AAA in white only (maybe turquiose for Darrel). Several things that kept that from happening: a) been busy b)like to keep our product line simple c)concerned that people might confuse it with the LE. I think if we give it a month, we could start offering the Natural finish as a standard option.

4) Haven't heard anything new from Nichia nor any rumors from other sources. There is some new products from Lumileds, etc but the trend seems to be to produce larger LEDs rather than beef up the standard 5mm size. The only way to utilize these new larger LEDs would be to enlarge the size of the Arc-AAA, which I think would hurt the product. Not all is lost though, as you know we are using the best of the new larger LEDs in our other products.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Mercator:
Peter

Did I miss reading this or is it yet to be posted....

How and when do we CPF members place an order for the CPF ARC AAA ???

-Mercator-<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

It will be soon and I will start a new Arc thread when that happens. I put the order in for the 100 blue HAs today. Still shooting for the first of March on these shipping.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Bushman:
agree white good
turq nice but not as practical (see shirt puller guy post)


QUESTION

what is the possiblility of crushing the circut in the arc aaa by twisting down too tight, or will u be more likely to collapse the battery terminal first?

thanks.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Bushman, every battery brand I have seen crushes long before the board undergoes any appreciable stress. We overdesigned the durability of the board.

Peter Gransee
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by darell:
to But to the best of my knowledge, SB1 is not brighter than SB2. I keep hearing folks talk about the LE as being "brighter" when it really is not. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

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I don't know about yours, but my LE is substantially brighter than my original Arc-AAA.
 
My LE(s) are brighter as well. I've had quite a few regular AAA's and LE's now to do comparisons. As I've stated before, there is an inconsistency between the brightness and tint levels amongst the different regular AAA's. The better one's approach or equal the LE in brightness and more whiter tint. Other's are noticably (but not by a great margin) dimmer and have a more bluish tint. The half dozen or so LE's that I've had were all to the naked eye, very close to each other in terms of brightness and tint. The output of my last regular AAA received recently from Peter as a warranty replacement, had a very similar output to the LE but it's a crap shoot for each one.
 
i think that my le is at least as bright as my photon 2... i don't have another aaa to compare with (yet)
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by telephony:
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I don't know about yours, but my LE is substantially brighter than my original Arc-AAA.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Craig -

I have quite a collection of different AAA's. Some of my standards seem to be the same brightness as my LEs, some are not. Is the standard that you show in the beam shot an SB2-equipped unit? I don't think they always were made with the SB LEDs. Some of my earlier units are the dimmer ones.

I may very well be way off base here, but I thought that the S ranking means that they are the same brightness, but that the B1 and B2 refer to a different tint. I agree that the SB1 LE looks "whiter" (the "B1" being greener than the "B2") but that doesn't necessarily mean brighter, does it? It is like the age-old question: Is the turquoise LED brighter than the white? Depends on who you are and how you perceive colors.

Am I way off here? Every time I think I understand this stuff, it seems to slip back out of my grasp. I certainly don't mean to be spouting bad info...
 
Peter, Can you describe the tinting of the Turquoise EV or post some comparative beam shots? Are we looking at a blue tint or a green tint? Will these be ready for order the same time you open up the ordering for the CPF edition?
 
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