Arc4 switch guard Poll

[Gransee]

Some of you have been following the Arc4 switch guard thread. Quite a few suggestions have been tendered and I would like to narrow them down so we can start building this thing.

Please let me know what features you need in a switch guard. Since the poll only accepts 1 answer/1 vote, please pick the most important feature. I will then select the 3 features with the most votes. Understand that each feature comes with a cost or tradeoff. For example, a switch guard/stand makes the button slightly more difficult to operate. A bezel down clip/tripod mount substantially increases the weight of the guard.

If you don't what these items are, please read the tail guard thread so your vote will be more relevant.



Thank you.

Peter

 

[jtice]

Im glad you made this poll Peter, this should help you out alot.

For me, the MOST impertant was a guard that would prevent accidental turning on of the light.

I would also really like the option of moving the clip to the guard end for bezel down carry.

I would like to see you beef up the guard JUST enough, to allow for the clip, and a split ring attachment.
The tripod attachment would be great, but for me, I would use it for the many accessories that fit it, not so much the tripod itself.

About this split ring though. Everyone wants it for a lanyard attachment, right?
Well, why not just make a fairly large diameter hole in the guard, then we can attach a ring, or even tie a lanyard directly to it?
Personally, I dont like rings, they are metal, and tend to make marks on things.

What does everyone thing of that idea?
I think it would also make it ALOT easier on Peter that way also.

 

[Darell]

Hmmm. Not really sure I understand. A new tail that would be a switch guard would almost certainly also be a candle-mode facilitator as well as a cigar-grip creator. Those are ALMOST synonymous. I guess I would have worded the poll a bit differently, and wouldn't have presented negatives for just a couple of the items.

 

[this_is_nascar]

I trying to understand the same thing Darell. I was thinking by default, you'd get them all in one.

 

[Likebright]

jtice,
It is important that the split ring does not come in contact with the rubber cover on the switch. The hole in the guard would have to insure this doesn’t occur,I think most people would prefer a split ring for lanyard or accessories, attatchment.

Tail up, lens down toard the junk in my pocket clip, not important to me.

There is going to be compromise --- a tail guard should be just that. The rest of the stuff should be conveniences in order of the polling.

My 2¢
Mike

 

[kakster]

Guarding the switch is not all that important to me. You have the software feature to do this, and besides, the switch isnt that sensitive enough to worry about accidental activation. Just my unedumacated opinion.

 

[darkgear.com]

Agreed with kakster. Those who have carried this light in any bag or pocket knows it won't turn on accidentaly very easily. My vote is for the split ring hole. My Arc4+ will not replace my old LS until I can carry it with my belt loop clip.

 

[jpeg]

It looks to me like there are two versions on the table, thick tailcap, or thin tailcap. (See that OTHER thread.)

Frankly, I don't care which gets produced.

I do want to cast my vote for the rear mount holes, it gives us more options to play.

 

[Darell]

[ QUOTE ]
kakster said:
Guarding the switch is not all that important to me. You have the software feature to do this, and besides, the switch isnt that sensitive enough to worry about accidental activation. Just my unedumacated opinion.

[/ QUOTE ]Hmmm. Since this is a "tailguard" poll, I'm not sure there's anything here for you to vote on. Good news for you - the light already comes just the way you want it! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

[Rothrandir]

as i see it, this accessory isn't "only" a tailguard.

most (myself included) would consider the primary use of this acessory to guard the tail.

however, it may potentially have other benifits as well, which even someone who doesn't want a "tailguard" per se, might be interested in suffering with one, to get the other benifits in the package.

 

[kakster]

Sorry Darell, forgot to mention...I voted for tailstand (candlemode), that IS important to me. This option effectively adds another function to the ARC4 that evryone can make use of.

 

[BigHonu]

[ QUOTE ]
Darell said:
Hmmm. Not really sure I understand. A new tail that would be a switch guard would almost certainly also be a candle-mode facilitator as well as a cigar-grip creator. Those are ALMOST synonymous. I guess I would have worded the poll a bit differently, and wouldn't have presented negatives for just a couple of the items.

[/ QUOTE ]

VERY Good point and I think for those who have not followed the other thread may be a little confused.

Still, I think there is a difference, and the difference is in the execution...is it primarly designed for candle mode first and a guard second (the three legged tailcap like Charlie's kingscown) or is it a guard first and a stand second like the more popular full shroud designs.

I totally agree that switchguard/candlemode/cigar grip tailcaps inherently embody these functions but since Peter has stressed that he wants to keep this as light and small as possible, I assume that subtle differences in opinion matter to him and may affect the final product. Just a guess on my part based on the other thread...

Aloha!
Brian

 

[Likebright]

Peter,
I know the polls have not closed yet but it looks like yours & Henry's post #162983 in the Arc4 Guard Suggestions thread is fittin the bill.
Hope you didn't wad them up an throw em away yet. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Mike

 

[DumboRAT]

My second biggest need?

Bezel down clip screws for stock clip.

Thanks for listening !!!!! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Allen
aka DumboRAT

 

[jtice]

LikeBright,

Ah, yes, I didnt think about the ring touching the rubber button, thats very true.

I figure with all of this great input, the new tail should turn out just great.

 

[Likebright]

jtice,
Ya it should be something really neat. It's great to be given the opportunity to participate. My hat is off to Peter for letting the forum decide the form.
Really unique./ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinser2.gif
Mike

 

[chiaroscuro]

Peter, does this poll end at the same time as your state's primary election (this tues.) ? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbsup.gif

 

[Dave Wright]

Glad to see that the poll results are fairly evenly mandating the same 3 items that are requirements for me: tailstand, switchguard, and split ring. The other items would be nice but aren't dealbreakers.

 

[absoLite]

Voted. What else would be important to me ?
The size (length and diameter) of the light should not be too much different from the current one.
So the guard should only be as much as long as the button stands out. And the guard should not be thicker than the bezel.
Weight doesn't matter too much.

 

[Gransee]

OK, I think we have enough votes to get an idea.

Tail stand
Switch guard
Split ring

We have a design that can do this (was posted to the guard thread). I will send it to have prototypes made and then we will make tweaks before it goes to production. Should be ready by April. I hope to post proto pics before that.

Btw, I am offering this guard accessory because you guys requested it. I personally think the light works great for me the way it is.

Peter