ASP Tactical Baton RAM LED Light

ZENGHOST

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Hey, guys--I have one of these LED systems for my baton and I just discovered that one of the three LEDs does not light up. Don't know how/when it happened since I'm pretty sure I checked it after I first bought it. What can I do about this? I don't use it as a primary light since it's not the brightest thing in the world, and it's not too bad with only two working LEDs, but I feel that I'm not getting my money's worth with one dead LED. Is it worth trying to get it repaired, or should I just get a new one?

On another note (although this probably belongs in Mods), anyone do a mod for this?

Thanks.

-ZENGHOST
 
Hey Zeng -- you live in Mililani and you have an ASP baton? Heck, I work in the Mililani area. You an LEO?
 
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MR Bulk said:
Hey Zeng -- you live in Mililani and you have an ASP baton? Heck, I work in the Mililani area. You an LEO?

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That depends on whether or not that statement will get me in trouble... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Nope, not an LEO. You?
 
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MR Bulk said:
Of course! And unfortunately everybody here knows it, too...

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Hmmm...so, hypothetically speaking if I were to have an ASP, should I worry about being in trouble? Hypothetically of course... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif
 
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PieThatCorner said:
/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/yellowlaugh.gif ...well, it's only a Felony... yikes

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Uhhh...well, then I guess it's good I only hypothetically have one then. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/twak.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
 
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The real question is 'Is it illegal to own it, or just illegal to carry it?'

Aeryk
 
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/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/icon23.gif Well my first thread turned out to be completely different than what I expected.
 
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Aeryk said:
The real question is 'Is it illegal to own it, or just illegal to carry it?'

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To be honest, I really don't know. Every time I've asked an LEO something about weapons/knives/etc., I always get this vague answer about what's legal and what's not. Sometimes it's almost like they write laws so that they can be twisted in whichever way they choose.
 
In reality, legal substance is dictated often by the Deputy District Attorney/Deputy City Attorney that files the case. LEOs don't write the law, but merely enforce it. It is an extraneous lesson in "letter of the law" and "spirit of the law" -- The vagueness comes from either lack of full knowledge or the fact that different scenarios will apply and affect the outcome of whether or not you have violated the law in your State. The law is a guideline in some instances (see below).

To answer the question: Is it illegal to own it or just illegal to carry it? The answer rests with "possession" -- it is illegal to possess the weapon on your person, concealed or otherwise, unless you fall under the exception (LEO/DOJ status). This is for the ASP baton. There is a myriad of differences between weapons of all types, not including the different standards in differing States.

And yes, last I recall, it is a felony in Hawaii. The reality? If you're caught with it, it's more than likely to be treated as a "wobbler" -- it can be prosecuted as either a felony OR a misdemeanor. If you were Joe Citizen carrying it around for your own protection, and weren't using it in the commission of a crime, but happened to be spotted with it -- the case could be filed as a misdemeanor, even though you would be arrested for felony possession of a restricted device. Many other factors come into play, however, that could make the original charge remain as a felony. (Too many details to go into here) I advocate not carrying it especially when you have knowledge that it's a restricted device. That's just simply my own opinion and some cheap advice. I can't tell you what to do.

Apologies for sliding off the original topic... Zen, if I were you, hypothetically, I'd just live with the one non-functional LED. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

-Jim
 
To find out what the laws actually are here, you need to consult what is called the HRS or Hawaii Revised Statutes. These are the collection of our laws.

I believe the section most relevant would be 134-51 - Dangerous Weapons. Specifically, prohibition of a billy club or similar weapon. Misdemeanor offense for possession.
 
A much better answer. Thanks Blackbeagle...

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-Jim

P.S. - there should also be a section defining collapsible batons in the Hawaii Penal Code.

wait wait wait... HB803 amends dangerous weapons. As I read it, a collapsible baton would not fall under a consideration for a "wobbler" - but to be prosecuted as a misdemeanor. Learn something new everyday. Shows you what I know... somewhere between diddly and squat.
 
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