Batteries for P2D?

[rayman]

I look for batteries for the P2D in the Fenixstore. I found the AW's RCR123A 750mah but it is writen there:

Use in the P2D and P1D is not recommended and could damage the light.

Is it because they are unprotected? Can I use the AW's RCR123A protected 750mah in the P2D Q5?

rayman

 

[HKJ]

It is because they are 3.6 volt cells, P2D needs 3 volt cells.

 

[TONY M]

They should be OK but you will lose all modes except turbo. Stick to 3v primaries if you want all modes.

 

[rayman]

So which rechargeable batteries do you recommend me?

rayman

 

[timcodes]

I've been using the aw batteries for 1 year now, no problems at all. I loose the other modes but I only use turbo and strobe.

 

[rayman]

I've been using the aw batteries for 1 year now, no problems at all. I loose the other modes but I only use turbo and strobe.

I want to use it as my EDC flashlight so it would be great if I can use all modes. Does anybody know good CR123A where I can use all mdoes of the P2D?

rayman

 

[adamlau]

Duracell, SureFire, Energizer, Panasonic, Sanyo, or Battery Station.

 

[Brigadier]

http://www.batteryjunction.com/4parc390reli.html

 

[Gunner12]

Titanium ones are one of the cheapest good(good from what I've heard) primary batteries that I know of.

3.0v rechargeables should work. 3.2v batteries with a different chemistry could work too(LiFePO).

 

[Ayeaux]

"3.0v rechargeables should work. 3.2v batteries with a different chemistry could work too(LiFePO)."

Has anyone tried a LiFePo in a P2D yet? I'm contemplating a P2D purchase, or make a P2T with my L1Tv2.0rb80 and want to use rechargeable batteries.

 

[dinocol]

Try using a Soshine rcr123a from dealextreme.. they work great with my p2d..

 

[Kirodragon]

I'm using LiFePO4 cells in my P2D/L1D and they work with all modes even if the runtimes are a bit short.
Runtime (turbo) with 500mAh 16340 is 30 mins to 50%.
Runtime (turbo) with 600mAh 14500 is 36 mins to 50%.

Compared to NiMH, the L1D gets a higher turbo mode, but it also gets a higher low mode. :mecry:
Both low and turbo get a boost of about 55%.
This also means that runtime on low suffers. It's only 8 hours with LiFePO4. :thumbsdow
Medium and high also get a small boost, but it's less than 10% so nothing one would really notice without a LUX-meter and maybe not even with a meter. :thinking:

Another thing to be aware of is that the P2D/L1D lights are capable of draining the cell to 0,9V or so. LiFePO4 cells don't like to be discharged below 2.0V

IMHO LiFePO4 cells make sense in the P2D, because it's more or less the only rechargeable option, but for the L1D I prefer to use NiMH, the boosted turbo doesn't outweigh the shorter runtimes.

 

[rayman]

Try using a Soshine rcr123a from dealextreme.. they work great with my p2d..

I heard somewhere else too that the Soshine work well with the P2D. How long is the runtime in the turbo mode?

I don't really like DX I'm waiting now for three weeks for my batteries for my Jet-III Pro I.B.S.!!!

rayman

 

[kzad]

I'm using AW lifepo4 in my P2D's. As far as I'm concerned it's high and turbo, since low medium and high all look the same (high) to me.

 

[rayman]

What about the Tenergy RCR123A 3.0V 900mah (http://www.batteryjunction.com/rc390reliba.html) are they
better than the Soshines?

rayman

 

[RGB_LED]

I'm using LiFePO4 cells in my P2D/L1D and they work with all modes even if the runtimes are a bit short.
Runtime (turbo) with 500mAh 16340 is 30 mins to 50%.
Runtime (turbo) with 600mAh 14500 is 36 mins to 50%.

Compared to NiMH, the L1D gets a higher turbo mode, but it also gets a higher low mode. :mecry:
Both low and turbo get a boost of about 55%.
This also means that runtime on low suffers. It's only 8 hours with LiFePO4. :thumbsdow
Medium and high also get a small boost, but it's less than 10% so nothing one would really notice without a LUX-meter and maybe not even with a meter. :thinking:

Another thing to be aware of is that the P2D/L1D lights are capable of draining the cell to 0,9V or so. LiFePO4 cells don't like to be discharged below 2.0V

IMHO LiFePO4 cells make sense in the P2D, because it's more or less the only rechargeable option, but for the L1D I prefer to use NiMH, the boosted turbo doesn't outweigh the shorter runtimes.

Great post Kirodragon! Ayeaux, I had been edc'ing a Fenix P2D-CE for quite some time and replaced it awhile ago with a P2D-Q5 and I also use a 3v LiFeP04 as well.

I get Low-Med-High and Turbo (as well as SOS / strobe) and I don't usually have any issues with runtimes as I don't use the light for long periods... Besides, I also carry a spare battery with me and I also have two other lights as well just in case I need more light or more runtime.

 

[kzad]

RGB...what Lifepo4 are you using to get the lower modes in your P2D?

 

[rayman]

I searched the whole day for rechargeable battries for the P2D and all I found out that there is no shop where the shipping costs are under 20$. And there is no shop in Germany which sell the RCR123A.

So now I want to buy from Deal Extreme, which ones can you recommend me:

Ultrafire 3.6V 880mAh LC 16340 Protected CR123A

TrustFire Protected 3.6V 880mAh 16340/CR123A

TrustFire Protected 16340 880mAh 3.6V Rechargeable Li-Ion

It seems that there are all the same. Do they even work with the P2D because of the 3.6V or can I use then only the turbo mode?

rayman

 

[jirik_cz]

I searched the whole day for rechargeable battries for the P2D and all I found out that there is no shop where the shipping costs are under 20$.

Fenix-store has free world wide shipping.

 

[RGB_LED]

RGB...what Lifepo4 are you using to get the lower modes in your P2D?

I bought them quite awhile back from Lighthound... listed here. They are 3.2v nominal and may come off charger a little higher - I'll measure them tonight when I recharge them - but I get all modes. :thumbsup:

Note that they are only 500mAh so you won't get the same runtimes as with the 750mAh or 900mAh RCR123's but, I prefer having all levels and, as I mentioned, I recharge them regularly, carry a spare and I also have a couple of other lights nearby if I need more light or runtime.