Best high capacity 18650?

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Re: Need input and recommendations on Cree and Defiant flashlights

I have a simple rule of thumb(helps being simple:p) be what ever the chemistry ICR/IMR/INR ,protected or not,just treat the same.................with respect. Of course used in different applications which are best suited ,but regarding discharging(be it a flashlight or an ecig etc) and charging(reputable brand so terminates and does not carry on charging or left unattended for long periods............no matter if protected cell/s,no matter if charger terminates..............only takes the one in a million fail.Even if there is 0.00001% of a chance.........its still a chance of failure).

Regardless of PCB or a more stable chemistry ,never over discharge /charge simply put.

If cells after a specific amount of time(huge variable dependent on charge cycles ,be it full or partial and time)if they dont hold charge the same,time to recycle/replace:)

Over the years i have had issue free use of lithium 18650 unprotected cells,i dont take it for granted ............

Just my general opinion
Roll on LG 3500 mah 10a cells..........:)
 

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Re: Need input and recommendations on Cree and Defiant flashlights

Just bought one of these protected Panasonic 18650B's, made in Japan with the Seiko IC and AO8814 MOSFETs protection circuit. At $11.43 shipped it was the best price I could find on this particular battery:

http://www.mtnelectronics.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=55&search=NCR18650B-PROT

Placed the order last night and got shipping confirmation early this afternoon.

It's the same Battery that Orbtronic sells for about $3 more on their site. If anyone knows where to get them cheaper, chime in!
 

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Re: Need input and recommendations on Cree and Defiant flashlights

Just bought one of these protected Panasonic 18650B's, made in Japan with the Seiko IC and AO8814 MOSFETs protection circuit. At $11.43 shipped it was the best price I could find on this particular battery:

http://www.mtnelectronics.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=55&search=NCR18650B-PROT

Placed the order last night and got shipping confirmation early this afternoon.

It's the same Battery that Orbtronic sells for about $3 more on their site. If anyone knows where to get them cheaper, chime in!

I don't know about Orbtronic but the mtnelectronics protected 18650B and BD that I got, do not fit in my Oveready lights (too wide) but do fit in the Chinese flashlights I have.
 

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Re: Need input and recommendations on Cree and Defiant flashlights

I don't know about Orbtronic but the mtnelectronics protected 18650B and BD that I got, do not fit in my Oveready lights (too wide) but do fit in the Chinese flashlights I have.

I think all my lights are made in china. I'm mostly a budget light guy, But I do have a Fenix TK45 and a Xeno E03 V3, and few other lights that weren't all that cheap, but still I've probably purchased at least 100 different flashlights and I think they all were made in China. As far as the lights I will be using 18650's for it's two SupFire F3-L2's and a ThorFire VG10. I think they both are ok with the bigger protected 18650's...but I guess I'll find out when they arrive!
 

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Looking for 18650s with the longest runtime.

Im looking for the best 18650 batteries for long runtime for frog gigging. I have nitecore 2300 now. Any suggestions?
 

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Re: Looking for 18650s with the longest runtime.

Im looking for the best 18650 batteries for long runtime for frog gigging. I have nitecore 2300 now. Any suggestions?

Depending on the light you have, you may be able to use Orbtronics 3600 mAh cells, ohterwise the Nitecore NL189 battery is 3400mAh rated. Most of the 3400mAh batteries use the Panasonic cell.

A budget priced 3400 protected button topped battery like your Nitecore ones are made by Keeppower. Illumination Supply has them for $12-13 a battery.
 

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Re: Looking for 18650s with the longest runtime.

Frog gigging? Ooookay....anyways technically that would be either the Orbtronic or Keeppower 3600mah 18650. These are still pretty new and sell out at vendors as soon as they get them. The difference between 3400mah and 3600mah when it comes to run times is not huge but it is there. I have 6 of the Orbtronic 3600mah 18650's which I consider myself lucky to have as Orbtronic sells out of them as soon as they get them now.
 

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Re: Looking for 18650s with the longest runtime.

Thanks for the info. Ive been looking at the unprotected batteries also but unsure of the safty of them being that i use a head light that has the battery's on the back of my head.
 

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18650/LED torch battery question

Guys,

I bought this LED torch:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/131444445928?_trksid=p2059210.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

Now I need 18650 batteries, but there are so many different, which ones I need/would be best for my torch? So far I have found out I need 3.7v.Protected/unprotected? How many amps? There are 10/20/30/33amp.

I have been checking eBay.co.uk and so far have found such models for Samsung, hence I can`t make a choice


30B
2E11


26F M
SDIEM
TD01


26F
2D34


26F
2CB3


25R
2DA3


30B
2DC5


30B
2E94


30B
2D81


28A
2D72


22P
1C91


26FM
TDS4


26F
2DB2

I would prefer something from LG/Sony/Sanyo/Samsung or any other known brand which I stand a chance getting genuine in UK, no more than
£7 per battery, 2800-3100mAh. Please advise guys, thank you.
 
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Re: 18650/LED torch battery question

I bought a few tesla model s cells from a guy. I checked them on my icharger and they were putting out about 3125 mah. So I think they were 3200 from the factory. They are NCA chemistry. From what I have read these cells will last a long time both calendar life and cycle life. Do so reading on the tesla fourm and you can read on the capacity vs miles. These seem to be good batteries.
 

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Forgot to mention. Gave them to my vapor buddies t play with. There main comments were this. Had good capacity but would not burn as hot at the vtc4 or 5s. But if using on 15a or less draw the tesla cells were as good as any other quality battery. I bought the batts for 6.50 each so I would say it is good deal since other batts from orbtroincs cost about 9 a cell
 

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I've had good performance from my Orbtronic, Panasonic BD's, and Voidhawk 18650's. The Voidhawks though are sometimes too fat for my Tain lights but fit in my Nitecore, Jetbeam, EagleTac, Olight, and Niwalker.
 
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Re: Need input and recommendations on Cree and Defiant flashlights

I do, great cells and awesome customer service.
Agreed 100%. You cannot go wrong with OrbTronic. I've used their batteries for a long time, they just don't quit!:twothumbs
 

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Re: Need input and recommendations on Cree and Defiant flashlights

Ive lost track. What light are we trying to find the best cell for again? TN12 2014?
 

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Re: 18650/LED torch battery question

I bought a few tesla model s cells from a guy. I checked them on my icharger and they were putting out about 3125 mah. So I think they were 3200 from the factory. They are NCA chemistry. From what I have read these cells will last a long time both calendar life and cycle life. Do so reading on the tesla fourm and you can read on the capacity vs miles. These seem to be good batteries.


they're claimed to be NCR18650BE cells which are 3200mah 10A cells. of course Panny/Tesla wouldn't confirm/deny.

so yes they don't put out as much amps as a VTC5
 

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Re: 18650/LED torch battery question

...totally lost. Thought we were trying to come up with suggestions for the best cell for the TN12 2014 which pulls 3 amps. Guess I missed the post where that changed lol
 

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Re: 18650/LED torch battery question

...totally lost. Thought we were trying to come up with suggestions for the best cell for the TN12 2014 which pulls 3 amps. Guess I missed the post where that changed lol

There is no 'best,' only a handful, or two, of qualified cells.

For a 3A light, I'm throwing out the LG 3000mAh 4.35v D1s, or 3200mAh E1s.

Chris
 

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Re: 18650/LED torch battery question

...totally lost. Thought we were trying to come up with suggestions for the best cell for the TN12 2014 which pulls 3 amps. Guess I missed the post where that changed lol
Judging by the wildly varying subject lines on individual posts, I would speculate that a number of threads have been merged by the admins.
 

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Re: 18650/LED torch battery question

I am using the AW 3400 mAh 18650 ICR. I am guessing that there is probably a new generation since I purchased them about a year ago. I have one in my PD32UE, and a spare. Before that I was using the 2600 mAh AW ICR when it was testing better than the old 3100 mAh model due to the improved chemistry. I have two of them as well, one in a PD35 and one as a spare. I also have a few of the 2000 mAh 18650 AW IMRs for vaping, but they could go in either Fenix should I need them. Then I have some 123s should I ever hit a point in which those six batteries of massive capacity aren't enough to hold me over with a power outage (and it would need to be a pretty serious outage given how long one 3400 mAh ICR will run the PD32UE on a lower setting.)
 

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