Best, highest capacity, protected 18650 cells?

[SHADE02]

What about the Callie's and Redilast 3100's? How have these been working out for those who have them? The AW 3100 should be out soon.

I think the Callie's use the newer battery technology.

HOW DOES IT WORK??

PERFECT X 1000:thumbsup: haha

at least the redilast and the callie's

I have no experience with the AW cells(but this are probably as good as the redilast or better)

I got 2hrs 40min on turbo at my jb's 3M xml-l(450ls):devil: with the callie's 3100mAh (panasonic inside)


rare thing: the callie's 3100mAh won't fit in my jb's 3M R5(350ls)
but ,that's not the case of the 3M xm-l, where I use the callie's 3100mAh😕

good morning to everybody :wave:

 

[samgab]

Here are my results on a discharge at 0.5A to 3V with the PINK protected Ultrafire "2600mAh" cells:

I tested 4 of them.
They are all pretty consistant, as you can see, all tested at ~1800mAh.
So nowhere near 2600mAh. (Edit: to be fair, on the DX website (not where I got my ones though), they do state: "Product print '2600mAh', the exact capacity is 1800mAh" so the info is there. I appreciate that sort of thing.)
I've ordered a couple of the DX "flame" Trustfire 2400's to compare.

 

[Old goat]

I am a noob here. I just ordered 4 of Callies batteries. I will see how they compair to the UltraFire batts that I have been using.

 

[samgab]

Just needed to add, for accuracy's sake: My previous graph was done when I didn't realise that my Accucell 8150 has an inaccuracy in it's reported mAh readings.
I have redone the chart corrected for the inaccuracy:

This chart gives a more accurate result than the previous one.

 

[samgab]

And here are the results of a brand new pair of Trustfire Flame "2400mAh" cells:

I've corrected the result to account for my hobby chargers error rate.
Both cells were almost identical in discharge curve. But a fair bit less than 2400. But still reasonably acceptable, in my opinion.

 

[pabcor]

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/836/dsc09452z.jpg/

I measured that.

Panasonic 3100 unprotected (green)
Ultrafire 3000 protected (red)
Ultrafire 4000 protected (black)
Ultrafire 4000 unprotected (black) bought on ebay (no photo)
Redilast 3100 protected
Callie's Customs 3100 protected
AW 2900 protected
Trustfire 2400 black with flames protected (no photo)

I tested on a flashlight fandyfire 700 (regulated 2.2A), and the best for capacity was Panasonic 3100 unprotected, 2h 33 min, Ultrafire 4000 two types 1h 10 min, Trustfire 2400 black with flames 1h 25 min, Ultrafire 3000 1h 50 min, Callie's Customs and Redilast 3100 2h 5 min and AW 2900 2h 17 min) good light minutes, not counted bad light time.

With a luxometer 100.000 lux
At 19,68 inch (50 cms) to the sensor, full charged, first 10 seconds

Ultrafire 3000 protected: 12100 to 11600 lux
Ultrafire 4000 protected: 16500 to 15900 lux
Ultrafire 4000 unprotected: no tested
Trustfire 2400 black with flames protected: 16400 to 16100 lux
Callie's Customs 3100 protected: 17700 to 17000 lux
Redilast 3100 protected: 17200 a 16700 lux
Panasonic 3100 unprotected: 15500 to 15100 lux
AW 2900 protected: 163000 to 157000 lux

The most powerful light seems Callie's Customs

These measurements are approximate.

 

[RI Chevy]

Samgab Thanks for the great graphs. Do you have any plans on testing the new Callies Kustom 3100's? I think many members are anxiously awaiting more test results.

 

[samgab]

Samgab Thanks for the great graphs. Do you have any plans on testing the new Callies Kustom 3100's? I think many members are anxiously awaiting more test results.

Hi, thanks for the feedback... I haven't bought any Callies Kustoms, and I don't have any short term plans to get any... I've reached the point where I have sufficient 18650's for my uses for now. But maybe at some stage. If I ever get some I'll definitely test them and report back with results. But I'm sure someone will get in there with some test results and graphs before that time!

 

[pabcor]

Sure, Iam waiting for a serious charger (icharger 1010b+) to test better my batteries.

http://imageshack.us/f/809/img1058v.jpg/

 

[RI Chevy]

Hi, thanks for the feedback... I haven't bought any Callies Kustoms, and I don't have any short term plans to get any... I've reached the point where I have sufficient 18650's for my uses for now. But maybe at some stage. If I ever get some I'll definitely test them and report back with results. But I'm sure someone will get in there with some test results and graphs before that time!

Thank you.

 

[chiphead]

Look fellas, I lost 3 Tenergys 18650 cell because the couldn't handle a Texas winter. Down to 20f some mornings and that doesn't include the LED drop in that went down with them! Plus there're flat tops, so you can not stack them! I'm purchasing two more cells (AW 2900), but this time with a little more caution.
chiphead...more wary this winter.

 

[pabcor]

And what about this type of 18650 LifePo4 battery?

world record car with this batteries
http://www.buckeyebullet.com/BB25.html

battery company
http://www.a123systems.com/products-overview.htm

 

[Kuryakin]

Well, I bought a pair of Ultrafire 2600s two years ago when I got my MG-PLI, and one just failed, and both show signs of slight leakage. So, hating them a lot right now. Thinking of the AW 2900 cells, unless someone has a better recommendation! Any thoughts?

 

[Lj-_-]

I got some senybor's, 2800mAh. Aparantly the are as good as the panasonic 2900's, according to this website anyhow. http://www.torchythebatteryboy.com/p/batteries_21.html

I've found mine to be very good so far, no complaints.

 

[Zenbaas]

Well, I bought a pair of Ultrafire 2600s two years ago when I got my MG-PLI, and one just failed, and both show signs of slight leakage. So, hating them a lot right now. Thinking of the AW 2900 cells, unless someone has a better recommendation! Any thoughts?

What about the XTAR 2600 batteries..? They are marketed as 18700 but they actually just protected 18650's. They are actually sanyo batteries.

 

[Stephen Wallace]

I got some senybor's, 2800mAh, I read somewhere that they are about equal to the panasonic 2900's, think they were tested with 1amp draw, so far they seem to be lasting out pretty good. I'll see if I can find the web page I read it from.

Sent from my GT-I9000 using Tapatalk

I'm going to guess at it being the 'Torchy the battery boy' web page.

 

[Lj-_-]

Yep, I just edited my post. Are these claims correct? I couldn't imagine why not.

 

[snakyjake]

Ultrafire 3000 protected: 12100 to 11600 lux
Ultrafire 4000 protected: 16500 to 15900 lux
Ultrafire 4000 unprotected: no tested
Trustfire 2400 black with flames protected: 16400 to 16100 lux
Callie's Customs 3100 protected: 17700 to 17000 lux
Redilast 3100 protected: 17200 a 16700 lux
Panasonic 3100 unprotected: 15500 to 15100 lux
AW 2900 protected: 163000 to 157000 lux

Is that an AW2900 typo of one too many zeros? Should it be 16300 to 15700 lux instead?

 

[snakyjake]

I tested on a flashlight fandyfire 700 (regulated 2.2A), and the best for capacity was Panasonic 3100 unprotected, 2h 33 min, Ultrafire 4000 two types 1h 10 min, Trustfire 2400 black with flames 1h 25 min, Ultrafire 3000 1h 50 min, Callie's Customs and Redilast 3100 2h 5 min and AW 2900 2h 17 min) good light minutes, not counted bad light time.

Callie's Customs 3100 protected: 17700 to 17000 lux
Redilast 3100 protected: 17200 a 16700 lux
Panasonic 3100 unprotected: 15500 to 15100 lux
AW 2900 protected: 16300 to 15700 lux

I'm interpreting AW2900 and Callie's 3100 as the top 2 choices:
AW 2900 has the most protected runtime by 12 minutes over Callie.
Callie's give you more light (~1400 lux) at the cost of 12 minutes of AW2900 runtime?

Wondering if AW will have a 3100?
Interesting higher mAh doesn't necessary provide more runtime like many assume.

Jake

 

[Stephen Wallace]

Is that an AW2900 typo of one too many zeros? Should it be 16300 to 15700 lux instead?

I would have to presume that that was the case - I cannot imagine that a change of battery would make a tenfold increase in the lux value.