Best place to order good/Japanese-made Envelops?

azon will authorize just about anyone to restock a given product, and because all suppliers are treated equally, real and fake stock is co-mingled. This practice is what has allowed the entire cottage industry of fakes to thrive in China. They will scan and print exact copies of packaging, and make sure the external appearance looks dead on, while making cost-cut knockoffs of said product, but getting to sell them to Amazon as if they're the real manufacturer - for the same price the actual manufacturer would receive.. Usually, it's not until a failure and a refusal to warranty a product by the manufacturer that the consumer even knows it was a fake. With things like batteries, that might result in you losing a device at least, and maybe having a fire at most. IIRC, that was the genesis of the whole "Samsung Note exploding" thing, too. Both Samsung and Apple had done some product audits, and foun
Yes, I have old eneloops from 2012 from costco still going strong. Now costco started selling energizer (made in japan). But I think with time as you said other batteries develop internal resistance. I dropped eneloops several times on the floor but visible degradation. (I read that dropping NiMh on hard floor reduce their effectiveness due to impact, might be internal structure gets damaged).
I wish there should be B&M stores selling eneloops.
 
Yes, I have old eneloops from 2012 from costco still going strong. Now costco started selling energizer (made in japan). But I think with time as you said other batteries develop internal resistance. I dropped eneloops several times on the floor but visible degradation. (I read that dropping NiMh on hard floor reduce their effectiveness due to impact, might be internal structure gets damaged).
I wish there should be B&M stores selling eneloops.
Yeah, I've got Eneloops going strong that I've damaged. My Nitecore MT20A actually wrecked the bottoms of both cells in it when I dropped it...they still work, haha.
 
Project Farm on Utoob did some random 'semi-scientific tests' on multiple nimh AA cells several years ago.

AA_Cycler, from another forum, also does NiMH battery tests. You may view the AA results, or the AAA results, or the blog. Overall scores are in the first (leftmost) column. The product make and model are listed in the second column.

AA_Cycler lives in a low-income country, and might gratefully accept mailed-in donations of brand-new batteries to test.

In regards to buying them from Amazon, I wouldn't really waste my time with that. If anyone is curious, they can look into "co-mingled inventory" to learn a little more about why Amazon is a problem to order from (Birkenstock had a very public feud with Amazon over this issue, and fully aired the dirty laundry if you want a place to start reading).

Yes, co-mingled inventory is real. For lithium-ion batteries, this might be a real problem.

However: Eneloops and other NiMH cells are so safe that even the fake ones are safe to use. They'll still work, but they might not work well.

I wish there should be B&M stores selling eneloops.

I did a Google search for [ buy Eneloop in store ]. I found that a bricks-and-mortar camera store in my city sells Eneloops.

There are also plenty of online stores other than Amazon, which sell Eneloops on their websites. For example. Walmart.

I know that assorted NiMH AA cells made in Japan (e.g. Ikea Ladda) are not Eneloops. Still, they're quite good, and I recommend them. In general, the best choice for most people is to choose AA cells less than 2200 mAh, or AAA cells less than 850 mAh. Cells with lower mAh are generally more durable.
 
Yes, co-mingled inventory is real. For lithium-ion batteries, this might be a real problem.

However: Eneloops and other NiMH cells are so safe that even the fake ones are safe to use. They'll still work, but they might not work well.
Sure, they may be safe, but I wouldn't be happy paying the Eneloop premium price for a rewrapped cheapy cell, haha.
 
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