Best throw single 18650 LED flashlight?

The_Driver

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As far as I know (and I'm not an expert :laughing:) the farthest throwing 18650-light (you might need 2 though) is the solarforce pro-1 head with a fitting body. To make it through really far (over 50000 lux) you would need to mod it with a ucl-lens though.
Here's another review.

I think when comparing this to the tiablo/dereelight aspherics they lose their advantage and don't make much sense anymore since the aspheric-lenses cause a lot of light-loss.
 
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Thrunite Catapult gets my vote for teh best single 18650 thrower. Even with only one AW 18650 it is a beast and still has sufficient run time for most tasks. Add the extension and throw in another 18650 and it is BRIIIIIIGGGGHHHT!

As U can see on pictures(especially when U watch at the end of tunel) Thrunite Catapult is very bright but has less throw then other listed throwers.

It is good in throw but on larger distances up to 150 meters light would spread more than on another throwers.

Very bright but not farthest thrower.

There are much more excellent thrower to be shown here.

I would like to C them on 150 meter test.

Tiablo A9 aspheric is farthest thrower among ones listed on pictures. Even throws god without coolimator head (should have about 23000 lux 1 meter readings) but with coolimator head (over 60 000 lux 1 meter) is real beast...

But U can not C true power of throwers... Should be tested on larger distances... To bad I don't have professional camera to take pictures

I have tried to take some shots with normal 7,1 mpx camera but no chance...

As far as I know (and I'm not an expert :laughing:) the farthest throwing 18650-light (you might need 2 though) is the solarforce pro-1 head with a fitting body. To make it through really far (over 50000 lux) you would need to mod it with a ucl-lens though.
Here's another review.

I think when comparing this to the tiablo/dereelight aspherics they lose their advantage and don't make much sense anymore since the aspheric-lenses cause a lot of light-loss.

I like when the light is far away from me because it does not mess up my night vision. I don't need blindfull light because it messes my night vision. I think that tiablo/dereelight aspherics have big advantage among other throwers because of that...

I have tried plenty of throwers but if U really want to lid something on great distances (especially if U using scope) U would want that kind of throwers.

If U want something that is blindfull bright up to let say 80 meter than U R not so demanding in throw because U appreciate side spill...

With aspherics U can stay unnoticeable when playing with light (especially when U want to light something among close buildings).

If I would be using thrunite catapult I would wake up my neighbours but with aspheric I fry and stay unnoticeable :)
 
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Has anyone actually taken a lux reading of the Uniquefire HS-802 or done a beam shoot comparison with any of the other (1) 18650 throwers?

It's an impressive light and I'd like to know how it stacks up against the A9, A10 or any of the other throwers.

With a 45mm diameter reflector and deep (don't have measurements) using a XR-E R2 I don't see how they can perform any better. The build quality of this light is pretty impressive as well.

I put a forward clicky in mine and can't see how anything could be much better for a dedicated thrower unless you get into aspherics (especially with pre-collimation lenses).

I've tried a DX aspheric in the HS-802 and I think the reflector does a better job.
 

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The build quality of this light is pretty impressive as well.

At first I was thrilled as U with this flashlight but...

This flashlight is good for everyday Use, and build quality is good for that.

For demanding people (hunters, police etc.) This flashlight can not withstand gun recoil...

Switch is very bad, wires are soldered bad... and it is BIG...

- Throws better than tiablo a9 (but not much further).
- It has a lot of side spill with very tight hot spot.
- It is direct driven so U will not have high output more than 10 minutes

Tiablo A9 is better flashlight in every way except throw (but it throws enough with bigger hotspot than unique fire)


I have sold few Uniquefires Hs 802 but I had many problems with it, and I don't want to sell it again because I don't have time and knowledge to repair that all the time...

But with some modding it can be used as a hunting light (other switch, better soldering, better driver and thermal isolation).:party:
 

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The D-mini VX with the R2 and the turbo force head is supposed to have the record for non aspheric lights. It is also optimized for a single 18650.
 

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Tiablo A10 is 50,000 lux, not 30,000 lux as someone stated. I have heard the 30,000 number when using the 3-stage switch but can't confirm that. The Masterpiece Pro-1 is a 50,000 lux light with a UCL lens. Both the A10 and Masterpiece Pro-1 require two cells to run regulated. The RRT-1 does 42,000 lux on a single 18650. All those lights have head diameters of 2.2+ inches. As to the question about heads under 1.5 inches....The Lumapower D-mini with Tele-Force reflector should be the winner there. It does 18,000 lux. The king of throw with 18650 is for sure the Lumapower D-mini with the Turbo-Force head. It does upwards of 57,000 lux. I don't have an exact number since I converted all my Lumapower pills to 1.4 Amp drivers prior to aquiring a CA813 light meter for accurate number. My Turbo-Force with EZ900 pill and 1.4 Amp driver does 103,000 lux. The D-mini's are really impressive throwers for their size. Some light modding will yied 27,000 lux with the Tele-force reflector kit. And do it with a single 16340 at that.

If anyone is not familiar with Lumapower....Turbo-Force is a 2.7" diameter reflector head to fit D-mini. Tele-Force is a deeper reflector kit that fits the D-mini with no change in head diameter. (1.47")
 
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Tiablo A10 is 50,000 lux, not 30,000 lux as someone stated. I have heard the 30,000 number when using the 3-stage switch but can't confirm that. The Masterpiece Pro-1 is a 50,000 lux light with a UCL lens. Both the A10 and Masterpiece Pro-1 require two cells to run regulated. The RRT-1 does 42,000 lux on a single 18650. All those lights have head diameters of 2.2+ inches. As to the question about heads under 1.5 inches....The Lumapower D-mini with Tele-Force reflector should be the winner there. It does 18,000 lux. The king of throw with 18650 is for sure the Lumapower D-mini with the Turbo-Force head. It does upwards of 57,000 lux. I don't have an exact number since I converted all my Lumapower pills to 1.4 Amp drivers prior to aquiring a CA813 light meter for accurate number. My Turbo-Force with EZ900 pill and 1.4 Amp driver does 103,000 lux. The D-mini's are really impressive throwers for their size. Some light modding will yied 27,000 lux with the Tele-force reflector kit. And do it with a single 16340 at that.

If anyone is not familiar with Lumapower....Turbo-Force is a 2.7" diameter reflector head to fit D-mini. Tele-Force is a deeper reflector kit that fits the D-mini with no change in head diameter. (1.47")

I was just about to pull the trigger on an RRT-1, thinking i might tinker with it a bit and get the current to the LED up a bit. But the lumapower upgrade to 1.4 amp looks very nice, could you provide some more info for a newb on how to builld one of these little throwers? What is the usable range of your set up?
I go to the lumapower site and al i can see is several versions of the D-mini, but no head of driver options.
Thanks, Joe
 
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You're wrong. RRT-1 does not have full regulation on 18650. There is a regulation as long as voltage on battery under load is higher than Vf of LED. As the battery depletes after these values are reached, the brightness decreases. You can check it out in Selfbuilt's review of RRT-2 (both flashlights have the same circuit).

I just re-read the review and if I understand selfbuilts statement decrease in brightness happens with both batteries

quote from Selfbuilts review "I like the fact that the RRT-2 takes all possible battery configurations (i.e. 2xCR123A, 2xRCR, 1x18650). And with consistent output levels and regulated runtime patterns on each battery source. :thumbsup: Dedicated 18650-only lights may be capable of a bit more output, but you loose the flexibility to use primaries in a pinch."

Anyway, I love my RRT-1 and 2 and find the RRT-1 to be a fantastic single 18650 thrower.

Cheers

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I was just about to pull the trigger on an RRT-1, thinking i might tinker with it a bit and get the current to the LED up a bit. But the lumapower upgrade to 1.4 amp looks very nice, could you provide some more info for a newb on how to builld one of these little throwers? What is the usable range of your set up?
I go to the lumapower site and al i can see is several versions of the D-mini, but no head of driver options.
Thanks, Joe

Just purchase a D-Mini VX with R2 LED, and get the Turbo-Force head for it. That will out-throw any other flashlight other than the monster $400 SR-90. If you want pocketable then get the Tele-Force reflector kit for it. 1.4 Amps is not available from Lumapower. I was just saying that with some home modding it can do over 27,000 lux with the small pocket sized 1.5" diameter standard head. Mine does 103,000 lux with the modded R2 pill and Turbo-Force head. My Tele-force, R2, 1.4 Amp pill delivers good light to about 250-300 meters. It will light up medium colored houses on a dark night to 550 meters or more. (Thats the longest target I have around here to try out)
 
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Just purchase a D-Mini VX with R2 LED, and get the Turbo-Force head for it. That will out-throw any other flashlight other than the monster $400 SR-90. If you want pocketable then get the Tele-Force reflector kit for it. 1.4 Amps is not available from Lumapower. I was just saying that with some home modding it can do over 27,000 lux with the small pocket sized 1.5" diameter standard head. Mine does 103,000 lux with the modded R2 pill and Turbo-Force head. My Tele-force, R2, 1.4 Amp pill delivers good light to about 250-300 meters. It will light up medium colored houses on a dark night to 550 meters or more. (Thats the longest target I have around here to try out)

U mean stock model or modded one U have ?

Will this outthrow Tiablo A9 Q5 with aspherical lenses or Tiablo A10? (I am talking about stock models with no modding)



If it can come near to them I am going to order it.

Looking for your answer.
 

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Just wondered which of the normal head size 5 inch non-aspheric flashlights throws best?

Probably the RRT-2.

The Eagletac T20C2 R2 at 15000 lux is pretty good too.


I have the T20C2 and the RRT-2. My Maelstrom G5 out throws both of them AND has more spill than both. Maelstrom has about 17,000 lux to the RRT-2 and T20C2 15,000 Lux. Since the Maelstrom is an XP-G and the other two are XR-E, the Maelstrom has more OTF lumeans for more brightness and spill. The Maelstrom G5 has a much more usable beam than the other two.
 

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This looks VERY similar to the Uniquefire HS-802. Has anybody compared the two, side-by-side? Since the HS-802 has an R2 and the WF-008 is a Q5, you would think the R2 light would possibly have an advantage...?

The HS-802 is rated out to 500 meters....the 008 is rated at 350 meters....on several sites. R2 is more efficient version of the Q5...therefore brighter (more lumens) based on same power consumption.
 

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I'm surprised no one has mentioned the Thrunite TN11 on a 18650 it's a quite a bit smaller than most mentioned here but i bet it gives a lot of the big throwers a run for there money.It also has a great spill for close up vision
i suggest anyone who doesn't know about this great thrower either buy one or research it i guarantee you'd be surprised
 

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I would think for a single 18650 powered light, the DEFT edc LR+, with ~ 72,000 lux, would be at or at least hovering near the top of the heap.

My DEFT edc LR was able to light up targets ~ 500 yards away, with enough light to take a pic with a crappy point and shoot...and the LR+ is stronger than the LR

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Holy Necro batman.

Don't forget people this thread ended 1.5 years ago so it's not surprising you may have a light that's brighter than those mentioned in 2010.
 

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Holy Necro batman.

Don't forget people this thread ended 1.5 years ago so it's not surprising you may have a light that's brighter than those mentioned in 2010.

Let us rejoice in that.

:D
 
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