Budget Showerhead Mag Drop-in.

Re: Budget Showerhead drop-in for Mag. Fusion 36, now available in warm.

I'm going to get another one for my 2D mag, but with that one I'm planning on using 6 serial AA NiMH.
I've done this with six Eneloops in series and it is brilliant ! ... It will also take two 18650's ... My Wifes 2C is running on two 18500's and that is also great ... She prefers the lightness of the 2C compared to my 2D.
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Re: Budget Showerhead drop-in for Mag. Fusion 36, now available in warm.

Both of mine have started to work intermittently. It seems to be the contact between the Fusion 36 and the Maglite. If I tighten and loosen the head, and fiddle with them, they'll work for a short time. I cleaned the contacts with isopropyl, but it didn't help much. Any ideas?

I love this showerhead. Nice bright floody upgrade. When I first put mine in my 2D, the batteries were low (each measured about 1.3) and it did this - on and off - mostly off. As soon as I put fresh batteries in, no problems. Maybe when it goes just under 3v it get blinky.

Where do you guys get good 2AA to D adapters? I've seen some out there on ebay and amazon but reviews say they're junk. Would pay extra for something well made.
 
Re: Budget Showerhead drop-in for Mag. Fusion 36, now available in warm.

I love this showerhead. Nice bright floody upgrade. When I first put mine in my 2D, the batteries were low (each measured about 1.3) and it did this - on and off - mostly off. As soon as I put fresh batteries in, no problems. Maybe when it goes just under 3v it get blinky.
You could be right. I put fresh batteries in when I cleaned the contacts and it was good for a week or so of daily use. I'll try new batteries tonight at work without doing anything else and see if that helps...
 
Re: Budget Showerhead drop-in for Mag. Fusion 36, now available in warm.

I love this showerhead. Nice bright floody upgrade. When I first put mine in my 2D, the batteries were low (each measured about 1.3) and it did this - on and off - mostly off. As soon as I put fresh batteries in, no problems. Maybe when it goes just under 3v it get blinky.
I tried new batts this week at work and I haven't had the light blink off/on at all. It still seemed pretty bright with the old batteries, but I guess it doesn't like low voltage.

Thanks for the tip! :thumbsup:
 
Re: Budget Showerhead drop-in for Mag. Fusion 36, now available in warm.

I performed a quick and dirty ceiling bounce test on various configurations of the Fusion 36 and a few other setups for comparision.

[TABLE="width: 384"]
[TR]
[TD]Fusion 36 Showerhead[/TD]
[TD]2D Akaline (3.05V)[/TD]
[TD]17[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Fusion 36 Showerhead[/TD]
[TD]6AA NiMH (7.71V)[/TD]
[TD]33[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Fusion 36 Showerhead[/TD]
[TD]4D Akaline (6.06V)[/TD]
[TD]28[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]TerraLux TLE-6EXB[/TD]
[TD]2D Akaline (3.05V)[/TD]
[TD]6[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Sipik[/TD]
[TD]1AA NiMH[/TD]
[TD]8[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Sipik[/TD]
[TD]Lion (4.10V)[/TD]
[TD]20[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]


Comments:

While the Fusion 36 works on 2 cells, you are leaving quite a bit of performance on the table and not utilizing a large part of the capacity of your cells when the Fusion hits the LVC. Using the six NiMH AA in series is sweet, pity the cheap adapters are lame as I had to use a magnet to get a connection. Nevertheless, they seem to work well enough when everything is screwed tight. I'll being ordering another 36 for this flashlight the next time they go on flea bay.

The Fusion 36 works really well with the 4D Maglite. It's hard to beat a 3 minute upgrade that makes the old workhouse 5 times brighter. Now it's worth buying another set of batteries for the club.
 
Re: Budget Showerhead drop-in for Mag. Fusion 36, now available in warm.

Time for the one year resurrection!

Thinking about putting one of these in an inbound 6C Maglite.

The Maglite is scratched and nicked all over.

My main concern is reliability.
 
Re: Budget Showerhead drop-in for Mag. Fusion 36, now available in warm.

What kind of runtimes do you see with the 6 AAs
 
I just picked up one off of ebay yesterday. There is one more listed out of 10, 9 have been sold in the last week. Seem to be pretty popular!
 
I've used a Fusion 36 in my work lite, a 4D and it has lasted over a year now, and thats daily use. I put a second one in a 3D Maglite for the truck and so far so good. When I was doing building inspections the 4D batteries would last almost 2 months using Tenergy Premiums. Haven't run my 3D all the way down yet.

I'll probably order another, I have a 3D with the factory LED bulb and it sucks compared to the others, but the batteries do last forever with the wimpy oem drop in. Still can't see crap with it though. The Fusion drop in is great around the farm, IMO its best as a work light around the house. I would not buy a MagLite at retail for one of these, but its great for giving new life to free maglites or old ones you have lying around. Even Walmart has decent lights under $20 now. The only reason I like a Maglite is due to the dual purpose design when dealing with shady situations. My LD-20 is plenty bright, but it sucks as a club.
 
Just got this thing and it is all kinds of awesome! All flood, no throw. A wall of light with a bright center that slowly fades in a very wide spill.

I first put it in my 3D Mag and it worked a treat. Im going to put it in my 6C Mag which resides beside/under the bed. This thing will blind any intruder if you point it in their general direction in the house for 15 seconds and have them seeing spots for a couple of minutes! I really like this drop in!

Does anybody have runtime figures for the Fusion 36? See EDIT

EDIT: I did some reading in the thread and am conservatively guestimating 6 hrs runtime on 6 Cs.

Ill put a 1 watt NiteIze in the tail cap which should be able to run on Fusion 36 depleted batteries for days at 50 lumens or so...as a backup.

PS - These are advertised as Warm Light these days and mine has a yellowish tint to it around the main hotspot. Really liking this thing!
 
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I actually finally gave in to curiosity a couple of weeks ago and bought a Fusion 36 drop-in. I have to say that my feelings about it are rather mixed, as this piece certainly has its good points and not so good points. As far as its good points, as has been said quite a few times in this thread, the quality of the light put out by this unit is GREAT. If you are using your lights for 'outdoor adventure' use rather than, say, law enforcement or search and rescue, you probably appreciate flood MUCH more than throw. And this unit is probably about the BEST flooder you are going to get your hands on. The hotspot is rather subtle, and transitions rather gently into the spill. In other words, lighting is VERY even. If you use this light on a dark trail, it will light up LARGE areas of land, giving you a good view of the the trail and everything surrounding it. You won't see much 700 feet down the trail. But for 100-150 feet, things will be quite well lit. Additionally, tint is pretty good. The light is on the warm side, but without any of that annoying yellowish green that can plague some other lights. And finally, as others have said, it drops into a Mag in no time.

So what's there not to like? Light output, for one. While the QUALITY of the light output is AWESOME, the brightness is a little underwelming. It's not bad considering the low cost of this drop-in. But it just doesn't live up to the numbers. This unit is advertised as putting out 400-900 lumens. And I can only assume that they mean 400 lumens with two cells and 900 lumens with six cells (and somewhere in between accordingly with 3-5 cells). But you certainly WON'T get 400 lumens with only two cells. Maybe 200-250 tops. And you MIGHT get around 400 lumens with six cells. I'm using five cells. And it's somewhat brighter than my 270 lumen Malkoff drop-in for my 2C. But it's nowhere NEAR as bright as my 600 lumen (on three cells, or 900 on four) Malkoff XM-L2 drop-in. I would estimate maybe 350-400 lumens (or so). Again, it's certainly not bad for $26. But be aware that, if you're expecting 900 lumens from six cells, these ARE 'Chinese lumens'.

I've als had contact problems. This seems to be common with this piece. And it seems to happen quite soon. Sometimes, I would have to turn the head a few turns to get the light to come on. Other times, I would have to hit the light as if it was some junky, cheap light from the 70s. One thing that I have found helpful is running it with the retaining collar in the bulb socket. It would seem like this puts a little more pressure on the bulb base that they use on this unit. Hopefully, it will hold up. But I don't know how much I trust it in the long run. Especially as my main light out on a trail somewhere. It just seems like they could have done better here. But again, this piece was certainly built to a budget.

Does anybody have runtime figures for the Fusion 36?

On 5 C cells, I'm getting a tailcap current of about .85A. With 4000mAH Tenergy Centuras, this works out to be approximately 4.5-5 hours. Given that tailcap current seems to drop slightly with increasing number of cells (there appears to be SOME degree of regulation), 5 hours seems about right with six 4000mAH cells. Of course, the light will run longer with higher capacity cells (like 5000mAH Premium cells).
 
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Thinking of getting one of these, are there any others I should consider too?

TerraLUX 310M-EX
Malkoff XP-G2
Malkoff XLM-2

in that order. The TerraLUX gives you 3 modes Hi/Med/Lo I believe, for flexibility and battery management. The Malkoff XP-G2 isnt as bright as the XLM-2 but it's cheaper and also has longer runtime and a warmer tinted output, but both are single mode lights.

All are relatively easy to find.
 
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