Can I somehow use half the batteries at half the runtime?

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Hi, I have 2 cygolite hi-flux 100s. They each run on a 4C battery pack and last for 25h on the high setting. Is there any way to mod the pack so that I can use 4 C batteries total at somewhere around a 12h runtime (edit: at the same power)? Thanks!
 
You need to keep the same number, type & connection method of batteries but source some with a mAH rating that is half. If you are using NiMH or NiCAD's then replacing the C type cells with quality AA size could do it. What type & voltage are yours?
 
I use NiMH for the most part but the reason I bought the light was so that I could use alkaline on long distance trips. The mAh rating is similar for C alkaline and NiMH batteries but I'm guessing 4 alkaline AA batteries would last about an hour or two.

Can I swap drivers to one that draws more power (I don't really know what I'm talking about here)?


Thanks again!
 
If you wanted to change the battery type (alks will be 6Volts per 4 in series connection, NiMH will be 4.8Volts) you need to know the input range of the driver, if it will take the increase in volts then OK but if 4.8 is the max then putting 6 through it could distroy it. You could change the driver but again you'd need to know how much room you've got to fit the new one into. Good drivers available from http://www.taskled.com/products.html
The nflex & bflex have a very wide input voltage range & would allow you to vary the output power & brightness of your light.
 
I just opened up the light again and I didn't see a driver, just a 5.2ohm resistor. What if I changed the resistor to 2.6ohms and made the input 3V instead of 6? (My electrical knowledge is pretty basic)
 
Hi, I have 2 cygolite hi-flux 100s. They each run on a 4C battery pack and last for 25h on the high setting. Is there any way to mod the pack so that I can use 4 C batteries total at somewhere around a 12h runtime (edit: at the same power)? Thanks!
why not connect both lights to one battery pack
since 1 pack is exactly 1/2 of 2 packs!
 
yes the brightness will be exactly the same,
.......you can splice the lead from the other lamp anywhere thats simplest


Woah, this sounds to good to be true. So I could solder the two black leads together and the two brown ones at the point that they're soldered onto the battery holder and both lights would receive 6 volts and the cost would only come from the battery life?
 
If you wanted to change the battery type (alks will be 6Volts per 4 in series connection, NiMH will be 4.8Volts) you need to know the input range of the driver, if it will take the increase in volts then OK but if 4.8 is the max then putting 6 through it could distroy it.
6 volts is the initial voltage of alkalines
4.8 volts is the median voltage of NiMH

A freshly charged NiMH is about 1.4V, or 5.6V for 4 in series. Also, NiMH have lower internal resistance than alkalines, so that voltage number will not sag as much when connected to a load as alkalines, either. Under heavy loads, NiMH will actually sustain a higher voltage than alkalines.

I'm not trying to be nit-picky, but the NiMH voltage thing is a pretty common misconception. I've heard of people frying circuits because they connect 5 NiMH cells in series, thinking that 5 x 1.2V cells will work the same as 4 x 1.5V cells, when in fact those numbers are not really describing the same thing.


Original poster:

Connecting both your lights in parallel to a single battery pack (rather than carrying 8 "C" cells) should work fine. In fact, if you wanted to get the same runtime as you currently do but spend less money on alkalines, you could install a four D-cell pack, and run both lights on that.

The only time when this might be a problem is if by using a smaller battery pack you load it with too much current. In a high drain application, cutting battery pack capacity by half can reduce runtime by more than half, as there will be more energy lost due to resistance in the batteries. Your application is fairly low drain though (25 hours runtime), so that will not be a problem at all.
 

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