Crelant 7G5 V2 (XM-L U2, 1x/2x18650) Thrower Review: RUNTIMES, VIDEO, BEAMSHOTS+

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Guys,
just a teaser, but the 7G5 V2 is coming to the USA soon. I know the guy who is going to be bringing them in.

So you look in the mirror everyday.

I have a Crelant 7G5 V2 and extremely happy with 53,300 lux, especially in the short configuration :devil:
 

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I've got my 7G5-V2 since one week.
The Throw is very very good, even the LumaPower MRV SKIV with Turbo Force Head is not so good!

By the way, I heard that Crelant is developing a third flashlight with even more Throw … let's see!
 

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I've got my 7G5-V2 since one week.
The Throw is very very good, even the LumaPower MRV SKIV with Turbo Force Head is not so good!

By the way, I heard that Crelant is developing a third flashlight with even more Throw … let's see!

There is another light coming very soon. I can't give any specifics but it is in the testing phase.
 

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V1 or V2....

I don't know which one to get!!

I want a 2x 18650 thrower for my collection.. the Crelant 7G5 (both) price is good... but why did they reduce output on V2? It makes it so much more difficult to decide. I wonder on average, how much less output there is on V2? I wish it was the same or higher on V2, not same or lower on average. Oh well.. The flat black on V1 is cooler too.

*EDIT* Just ordered the V2 from CPFMarketplace seller.. All the extras make V2 hard to pass up.

Found something labelled wrong maybe:
''From left to right: 4GREER 3100mAh 18650; Crelant 7G5-V2, 7G5-V1; Tiablo A60G; Niwalker 750; Thrunite Catapult V3, Sunwayman T40CS''

I think Tiablo and Niwalker are backwards..
 
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V1 or V2....

I don't know which one to get!!

I want a 2x 18650 thrower for my collection.. the Crelant 7G5 (both) price is good... but why did they reduce output on V2? It makes it so much more difficult to decide. I wonder on average, how much less output there is on V2? I wish it was the same or higher on V2, not same or lower on average. Oh well.. The flat black on V1 is cooler too.

*EDIT* Just ordered the V2 from CPFMarketplace seller.. All the extras make V2 hard to pass up.

Found something labelled wrong maybe:
''From left to right: 4GREER 3100mAh 18650; Crelant 7G5-V2, 7G5-V1; Tiablo A60G; Niwalker 750; Thrunite Catapult V3, Sunwayman T40CS''

I think Tiablo and Niwalker are backwards..

If I understand correctly, Selfbuilt is saying that the output differences between the V1 and V2 are probably more due to unit to unit variations than a real model difference:


Although my V2 sample has slightly lower output and throw, I don't consider this to be significant. There is bound to be some variability between samples, due to circuit/emitter differences. Exact positioning of the emitter and reflector will also affect throw.

As a reminder, the best way to compare overall throw among lights is by looking at beam distance, not raw lux at any given distance. As you will see, my V2 has ~2.5% less output, and ~6% less throw. This is within normal variation.


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That said, the full support for 1x18650 on the V2 is a definite bonus now. Although output is lower than 2x18650, it is still high enough to make this the best throwing reflectored 1x18650 that I have tested to date.
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Sooo, it sounds like the V2 is a no brainer.

:D
 
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@TEEJ After reading a lot of other posts about peoples' experiences with their V2 compared to V1, I think overall the V2 doesn't have quite as much output -on average.. that's info gained after this review.. But like you said, it probably depends on the variation of the one I happen to get anyway.. that still has a lot to do with it. It could be better or worse just depending on pure luck.

V2 has so many other things going for it, I just ordered that one.
 

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The way I see it, if its within normal variation, some people WILL report it as having less oomph...and some won't.

In the chart, we're talking about 440 meters vs 469 meters...BUT, we are ALSO seeing people who tested the Lux on the [email protected] as being in the mid-50k range, as opposed to the 48k range in this review.

So, normal variation means some are stronger, and some are weaker....and, so far, there is evidence that both stronger and weaker versions are out there.

It was probably that way for V1 as well, but there was nothing to compare it to. :D

I have not measured mine...but it throws pretty good, and I like it.

:D
 
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I think Tiablo and Niwalker are backwards..
Thanks, fixed.

So, normal variation means some are stronger, and some are weaker....and, so far, there is evidence that both stronger and weaker versions are out there. It was probably that way for V1 as well, but there was nothing to compare it to. :D
Yes, exactly - it is hard to know what the variation in the V1 was like, as I only tested one sample. The reflector appears to be same, and the runtime on Hi on 2x18650 is the same (within normal variation limits), so I have no reason to expect the average throw/output to be all that different between V1 and V2. But you would need to have a good number of samples of each - tested under exactly the same conditions - to know for sure.
 

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Mine seems crazy bright and has insane throw. I'm happy with it.. no tools to measure output.
 

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Its been rainy stormy here for days on end...I think Sunday is the next day projected to NOT be icky out....and, with any luck, I 'll ALSO have a chance Sunday night to go out and play.

:devil:

I'll do a bunch of beam shots then if I can.

:D
 
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Its been rainy stormy here for days on end...I think Sunday is the next day projected to NOT be icky out....and, with any luck, I 'll ALSO have a chance Sunday night to go out and play.

:devil:

I'll do a bunch of beam shots then if I can.

:D

OK, I snuck in some shots back on the 6th. :devil:


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Crelant 7G5 V2


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That round tree is ~ 400 meters away from the light.

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Those telephone poles on the left of the path are 87 meters apart for scale, and the camera and light are situated about even with a pole. That tree from above is lined up about even with the space between the 4th and 5th pole, but the convergence in the pic's angle makes it hard to tell the poles from each other out that far.




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As a comparison - The Nitecore Tiny Monster TM11 is still a decent thrower due to shear horsepower, but can't quite throw like the above examples.


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The TM11 is good for a coupla hundred meters, very good, but not in the same league as the Crelant 7G5 V2

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TM11 beamed down the same path
 
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The beam reminds me a lot of my first real flashlight, the Fenix LD20 premium R4 w/ smooth reflector. Very similar looking hotspot.. about 20x the power though obviously.
 

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Selfbuilt should be receiving the new Aspheric head for this light shortly. I would imagine he will supplement the review with some new readings.

He should also be receiving the new Crelant 7G9, if it is al I expect we should have a really great review of that one also.
 

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I've found the Crelant 7G5 V2 to be a wonderful low-cost light. Bright. throw. Some spill. What else could we want? When the aspheric heads become available, I would like to buy one.
 

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I have been holding off for a "hand held thrower" for a while. This one looks like it may be ideal.

Will it accept AW flat top cells?

Would TrustFire protected's be OK to use?

If so, how will performance be affected by using 3000mAh over 2400's?

I will probably primarily use in 2x18650 configuration.

Are Xtar WPII chargers any good? I have a Pila IBC, but want a low cost option to give as a gift with a 7G5.
 
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I have been holding off for a "hand held thrower" for a while. This one looks like it may be ideal.

Will it accept AW flat top cells?

Would TrustFire protected's be OK to use?

If so, how will performance be affected by using 3000mAh over 2400's?

I will probably primarily use in 2x18650 configuration.

Are Xtar WPII chargers any good? I have a Pila IBC, but want a low cost option to give as a gift with a 7G5.


Lots of questions.

The 7G5v2 will work with any 18650 since the head and tail have springs at both ends.
The lower mah batteries will have a correspondingly lower run time, XXXfire batteries may or may not be from recycled laptop cells and are subject to wild swings in quality.
The Xtar chargers are great no issues with them. I have PILA and Xtar chargers I use all the time.
 

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Just an update - the collimator (aspheric) head for the 7G5 V2 is on its way to me for testing. I will update this review with beam measures, pics and beamshots as soon as I can.

In response to questions I have received, please note that the thread style, diameter and thickness are different at all points on the 7G5 V2 compared to the original V1. The overall width of the battery tube and head base are also different. So the collimator head for the V2 cannot possibly fit on the V1. Crelant has directly confirmed to me that the collimator will only fit on the V2.
 
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