Disassembly: Rayovac 3C Sportsman Xtreme 4W --> new pics!!

Hill

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Picked this torch up @ Sears for 20 bucks (reg $35). I was curious to see if it would be mod friendly, so here are some pictures of light's anatomy. I was pleased that everything came apart very easily. It was constructed with many "unscrewable" parts - more than I would expect for an off the shelf mass produced light. Almost seems it was designed with the modder in mind. There were also ample O-rings throughout. I'm not sure what to do with this yet, but one important note here is that IMR 26500 cells fit WITHOUT boring!


Out of the package
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Size comparison: M@g 2D (left), Rayovac 3C (middle), and M@g 2C (right)
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Bezel/head inards in order of assembly

  • Bezel
  • Plastic lens
  • Optic retaining ring (screwable)
  • 35mm Optic (brand ??)
  • Head
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Head/driver pill
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Cree emitter
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Negative contact is made through the pill/spring to body much like in a P60 dropin
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Switch/boot cover with several retaining rings. The switch is mounted directly to the PCB.

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Light is direct drive from 3C with current limited by a simple resistor. I measured ~500 mA draw from 3 slightly discharged C-cells. I modded it to direct drive (wire soldered to bypass the resistor, and current increased to ~800 mA. On freshly charged cells, I got 1A.
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Tailcap
Has a lanyard attachment which is not really feasible given the size of this light. However, if it were modded to have a tail clicky, it would have a nice "recessed" look and still be able to tailstand.

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And here is the bonus find --- Look ma', no boring, it's IMR 26500 compatible!!!

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Now just need to figure out what do to with this. Another option is to make it into a tail clicky and use the extra space from the stock switch to fit 3 x 26650 cells. I measured and it would accept that nicely.



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UPDATE

Request was made for more detailed pictures of the Cree optics. It measures 36mm x 16mm using my (non-digital) calipers.

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I also discovered this light can be lego'd with another cheap $8 2C host from this post. The 3C body screws on perfectly to the 2C head with no modification. I removed the stock switch and could fit an extra C-cell down the tube for a total of 4 x C cells. Tailcap still screws on with good contact. Without the stock switch, this light could be converted into a tail clicky operation.

Possible battery configurations:

  • 4 x C NiMH
  • 4 x 26500
  • 3 x 26650
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Compared next to a Mag2D
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4 x C-cell fitment
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Compatible threads of 3C body and 2C head/neck
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For the other combination (2C body onto 3C head) the theads are of course compatible, however, the body of the 2C has a lip that does not allow the 3C head to screw on. Nothing a little dremelling couldn't take care of. Here are pictures of what it would look like if they were mated.

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Compared next to a 2D mag. It's about the same length as a 1C Mag, but actually fits 2 C-cells.
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Here is a before and after shot of stock or lego'd 3C and 2C lights compared next to a Mag 2D.


Stock
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Lego'd
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3C body/2C head is a bit ugly for my taste :nana:.

2C body + 3C head has a very cool look :cool:. I could even deanondized the head to match the tailcap. I could probably bore out the inside to fit 2 x 26500 or 1 x 26650, but the walls are thinner than a Mag, so may not touch that one.

Curious to know what others think :poke:




 
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Re: Disassembly: Rayovac 3C Sportsman Xtreme 4W

3x26500 is big power, sst-50 + optic?
 
Re: Disassembly: Rayovac 3C Sportsman Xtreme 4W

SST-50 is definitely a candidate. Was also thinking of triple XPG. Not sure which would generate less heat @ the same current drive. Problem I have had lately is finding a suitable (and relatively inexpensive) 2.5A driver that can tolerate the input voltage (~10.8 - 12.6).

There are drivers from DW, Taskled, and others, but cost wise, they are a bit more than I'd like to spend.
 
Re: Disassembly: Rayovac 3C Sportsman Xtreme 4W

It's a nice light, especially for the price, and was my best thrower a few years back... now it's obsolete and I'm really curious as to what mods can be achieved with it:popcorn:
 
Re: Disassembly: Rayovac 3C Sportsman Xtreme 4W

Nice find, the 26500 diameter is a big plus.

Will the body screw in Mag C head? Could you give it a try?

The switch doesn't look like High Amp capable, probably need to be replaced if going for SST-50.
 
Re: Disassembly: Rayovac 3C Sportsman Xtreme 4W

Nice find, the 26500 diameter is a big plus.

Will the body screw in Mag C head? Could you give it a try?

The switch doesn't look like High Amp capable, probably need to be replaced if going for SST-50.

I tired to mate the Rayovac 3C body to a Mag C head and no luck there:mecry:

However, it is combatible with the head/neck from the cheap $8 2C host from this thread. I'll take some pictures and post later. What would be the advantage there I'm not really sure. Just kinda cool these two mate well. I really wish the Rayovac head would mate to the $8 2C body since the look is very cool. The threads should be compatible, but the 2C body is getting stuck on the narrow head diameter. Nothing a little grinding couldn't fix. I'll also post pictures of that combo as well.

I agree, that switch is :thumbsdow for high amp applications.
 
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Re: Disassembly: Rayovac 3C Sportsman Xtreme 4W

Hill, keep us posted on what you decide. I have one of these and it might be time to try my first mod.

Could the existing emitter just be swapped with something better?
 
Re: Disassembly: Rayovac 3C Sportsman Xtreme 4W

Hill, keep us posted on what you decide. I have one of these and it might be time to try my first mod.

Could the existing emitter just be swapped with something better?

It would be easy enough, but I'm looking for something with more kick since I'll be powering with 3 x 26500 IMR cells. Maybe a triple XPG.

That optic looks like a Ledil Eva optic. Is it 36mm in diameter? Can you take a closer picture of it?

Yes, the optic measures 36mm x 16mm by my calipers. Updated post #1 w/pictures.

It's a nice light, especially for the price, and was my best thrower a few years back... now it's obsolete and I'm really curious as to what mods can be achieved with it:popcorn:

Working on that now. Possibly triple XPG.
 
Re: Disassembly: Rayovac 3C Sportsman Xtreme 4W

This is a modern classic light!

I think this was the first XR-E based light to be found in common brick & morter department stores. I had one survive an 8 foot fall onto concrete in the garage. I've been thinking of putting a warm white Cree or a Q5 in it as a simple mod.

Has anyone seen the alternate version of this? I think it says 180 lumens on the package and has two modes. I saw this at Parts Express (live in the warehouse showroom) but not found on ROVs Website.
 
Re: Disassembly: Rayovac 3C Sportsman Xtreme 4W

Very interesting legoing, but I really like the original look of the light.
I like the idea of putting 4 cells in it and having a tailcap switch without making the light much longer, although the original switch position was also very nice since it is a well balanced light... so many options now!



This is a modern classic light!

I think this was the first XR-E based light to be found in common brick & morter department stores. I had one survive an 8 foot fall onto concrete in the garage. I've been thinking of putting a warm white Cree or a Q5 in it as a simple mod.

Has anyone seen the alternate version of this? I think it says 180 lumens on the package and has two modes. I saw this at Parts Express (live in the warehouse showroom) but not found on ROVs Website.

It was the most powerful light you could get in a normal store until last year I believe. I did see the new version: 180 lumens and 75 lumen modes. They updated the look on the grip. I don't know why you didn't see it on ROV's website, it's in the outdoor section. They say it is titanium colored, but the ones I saw in the store where dark green... or maybe it was the lighting in there, who knows...
 
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