Discussion thread: A2 dumb LED rings - (Onion Ring)

1wrx7

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Re: A2 dumb LED rings - (Onion Ring)

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No you are not late at all, I am late. Building them slowly. Still have a member's Arc4 mod to go. Then we start okay? There should be enough for everyone so don't need to worry. :)
I'll keep making them till everyone's happy.

EDIT: Yes sygyzy - I'll make a new sales post.


This is awsome news:party:... I thought I was late to the party. I'm still in for one... and if you have LED's to sell with them I'll take a variety... snow white...warm white... some different colors. Theres so many options with this... I can't wait:D


:twothumbs You guys are going to love them!


This is awsome news too:party:
 

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Re: A2 dumb LED rings - (Onion Ring)

Just a quick question
will this will work with 2xrcr123 in the A2 ? or will it burn the leds out eventually?

i suppose it is easy to replace the LEDs anyway so it doesnt matter
 

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Just a quick question
will this will work with 2xrcr123 in the A2 ? or will it burn the leds out eventually?

i suppose it is easy to replace the LEDs anyway so it doesnt matter

You can set the LED drive levels wherever you want with the Onion ring, if you push them too hard they will burn out, but that's up to you.

I recommend using the LEDCalc in conjunction with the Mfg's specs to determine your drive levels.

Edit: The Onion Ring appears to allow you to directly set your LEDs drive in mA, so you will probably only need a multimeter and very little math or calculation. The above is somewhat useful information, but not really important for Onion rings.
 
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koala

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Re: A2 dumb LED rings - (Onion Ring)

In addition to mwaldron's post, the Onion Ring will supply up to 40mA current to each LED at maximum. The original SF Nichias LEDs are driven at more than 50mA.
 

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In addition to mwaldron's post, the Onion Ring will supply up to 40mA current to each LED at maximum. The original SF Nichias LEDs are driven at more than 50mA.
Thanks for the additional info! I apologize if this was already answered in a previous post, but does this mean that we will get slightly reduced out put from the LEDs with your Onion Ring vs. stock?
 

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Hmmm, 40mA is a lot of current for a 5mm LED. I am pretty sure there won't be a major decrease in brightness but I've never compared it. I will do a test and report back later.
 

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You will not see a reduction unless you want to.

The old 5mm's of stock are dated so at 40ma with a newer LED you'll stay about the same overall!

That's the best part about these, there are hundreds of kinds of 5mm and 3mm you can try. I like an orange/yellow 20 degree 3mm best myself.
 

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You won't be using the same LEDs in your Onion Ring that the stock SF ring uses, so the current won't be a direct comparison. Hopefully you'll find some more efficient LEDs.

When I modded my White A2 with Nicha GS I changed out the resistors to drop the current consumption to ~30mA which was already pushing Nicha's recommendations too far. I detect almost no output difference between my GS A2 and an Angry Blue SF A2.

Surefire drives the leds in the A2 at absolutely insane current levels, well beyond the point of diminishing return and (imo) visually detectable increase.

The reason why people blow out LEDs on the A2 with RCRs is because SF has pushed them to the very edge of destruction with primaries. It's rather unlike SF seeing as they are so conservative on everything else they do.
 

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Re: A2 dumb LED rings - (Onion Ring)

So where do you get GS's? The cri in my old e01 is a lot better than any other 5mm led I've seen.
 

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I got mine from a group buy over on CPFMP about a year ago.

It was a very specific flux/tint bin, pure white and very high output. I'm not sure where one go to get them without another group buy.
 

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Having just bought my first A2, I must now add my voice to the chorus and get in the back of the line for a marvelous onion ring :thumbsup: Count me in! Looking forward to the sales post ... :popcorn:
 

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Re: A2 dumb LED rings - (Onion Ring)

I have got a small batch of 20 pieces done. I can post them soon. Next batch will be 35 or so I don't want to get too ambitious cause they take sometime to assemble. Christmas is a busy time for the postal system so its better to get them out earlier.
 
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