Does anyone have beam shot comparison pics for a L2D-CE and Hokus Fokus?

[TeaQue]

I'm thinking about picking one up but my Focusing Led Lenser has become quite the favorable light and I don't want to get anything else unless it is significantly brighter :dunno:

 

[Nyctophiliac]

My P2D CE is still on its way from lighthound,but should arrive soon.

When it does I'll know for sure, but based on Quickbeam's review on Flashlightreviews.com, My P1D CE is a good guesstimate and on max it's about the same as the Hocus. By my non scientific objective eyesight point of view anyway! Though the hocus is a bit more focused grin2, and the P1D CE has more spill, and possibly a bit more overall output.

The L2D CE is supposed to be a bit more throwy than the P1D CE, 54.58 vs 51.96, and a bit more output, 88 vs 78.5.

I'd say the regulation battle is won hands down by the Fenixes, but I kind of like the power beam saturation of the Hocus.

You know what we'd all say...get them all!!!!



Be lucky...

PS - I'll try some beamshots later, with my old non manual digicam!!!

 

[yellow]

Even with my totally rejecting of Led-Lenser which are imho only overpriced and technologically bad, while offering good machining (but a finsish not on par with the price), I dont understand Your thoughts.

Sure the L2D is brighter, but the real kicker in the Fenix D-Series is versatility, not only a bright on-off output.

 

[TeaQue]

Even with my totally rejecting of Led-Lenser which are imho only overpriced and technologically bad, while offering good machining (but a finsish not on par with the price), I dont understand Your thoughts.

Sure the L2D is brighter, but the real kicker in the Fenix D-Series is versatility, not only a bright on-off output.

My thoughts are that I scored my Hokus Fokus off of ebay for $30 shipped and it beats the crap out of everything I own (besides the Maxfire--which is expensive to feed in comparison)

I don't want to spend $50+ on another light if it doesn't beat it on High-mode (or "Turbo" or whatever ridiculous name a company wants to come up with for a flashlight)

 

[TeaQue]

My P2D CE is still on its way from lighthound,but should arrive soon.

When it does I'll know for sure, but based on Quickbeam's review on Flashlightreviews.com, My P1D CE is a good guesstimate and on max it's about the same as the Hocus. By my non scientific objective eyesight point of view anyway! Though the hocus is a bit more focused grin2, and the P1D CE has more spill, and possibly a bit more overall output.

The L2D CE is supposed to be a bit more throwy than the P1D CE, 54.58 vs 51.96, and a bit more output, 88 vs 78.5.

I'd say the regulation battle is won hands down by the Fenixes, but I kind of like the power beam saturation of the Hocus.

You know what we'd all say...get them all!!!!



Be lucky...

PS - I'll try some beamshots later, with my old non manual digicam!!!

That'd be awesome!

 

[Lobo]

Hi TeaQue,

does your Hokus Fokus out throw your SL PP 4AA and your MagLED 2D?
That's pretty impressive!

 

[kavvika]

Hi TeaQue,

does your Hokus Fokus out throw your SL PP 4AA and your MagLED 2D?
That's pretty impressive!

At least for me, my Hocus Focus did not out-thrown my Magled 2D or 3D. The Hocus focus was tested on warm-off-the charger Duracell NiMh cells, and even with the Mags on for a few minutes prior to the testing, the Mags still out-threw it by about 10%. Still quite impressive for a 3AAA flashlight with a Lux1, but also a testament to how well the Mags' reflector focuses.

 

[Lobo]

At least for me, my Hocus Focus did not out-thrown my Magled 2D or 3D. The Hocus focus was tested on warm-off-the charger Duracell NiMh cells, and even with the Mags on for a few minutes prior to the testing, the Mags still out-threw it by about 10%. Still quite impressive for a 3AAA flashlight with a Lux1, but also a testament to how well the Mags' reflector focuses.

Agree, the Mag throws really well, but then it has a quite larger reflector than the Hokus Fokus, so still an impressive feat by the smaller light. But the LED must be severly overdriven.

 

[TeaQue]

Hi TeaQue,

does your Hokus Fokus out throw your SL PP 4AA and your MagLED 2D?
That's pretty impressive!

No it doesn't out throw them but it comes pretty close!

Look at this thread for some beam shots that compare the two

http://candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=141977&page=1&pp=30&highlight=hokus+fokus

 

[Lite_me]

Hi TeaQue,

does your Hokus Fokus out throw your SL PP 4AA and your MagLED 2D?
That's pretty impressive!

Mine Does! Here's a quick story that happened just tonight. Without going into detail, I have motion sensors outside that set off a small alarm inside. One went off this evening. I got up to get my 7438 (Hocus Focus) (that I usually use), and remembered that I had taken it to the basement and it was still there. So I quickly grabbed a SL PP 4AA Lux that was handy and jumped outside. Switched the light On to have a look-see and said to myself, man_, where's the light? I couldn't see Shinola! Compared to the Hocus Focus it almost seemed useless. I always grab the HF and that thing has spoiled me. When I came back in I checked the batteries in the PP 4AA Lux and they were fine! How many more comparisons are needed? [See edit below]

I don't have an L2D CE but I do have a P1D CE. I pretty much agree with what Nyctophiliac had to say. Real-world, they are very similar in brightness. The P1D CE most likely has more total output, it's just that the Hocus Focus 'collimates' all the light into a beam that lights up so much more area at distance. Probably 3 to 4x's as much and just as bright as the spot on the P1D CE. The P1D CE has spill. The Hocus Focus does not. The P1D CE is much better for closer-up use where you might want to illuminate a wide area out to 50-75ft or so. At 100 to 200ft, the Hocus Focus out performs it. So much so, that I don't think an L2D CE is going to touch it at that distance either. If Fenix ever comes out with the L1/L2D series in Natural, I'll likely get one and compare em.

I'd like to see some beamshot comparisons myself. I'm not to good at them but If I find some time, I might try some between the P1D CE and the HF 7438.

Thanks for reading.

[Edit] I need to retract some of what I said above about my SL PP 4AA Lux. I have 2 of them and I retrieved the 2d one to compare again cause I really was surprised there was so much difference, in throw and output. Here's what happened. I had completely forgotten that I had experimented with the reflector on the PP that I grabbed initially when going outside. I had sprayed it with hair spray to try and defuse the spot and add some spill. It did do that, somewhat, but light output suffered noticeably. I just left it that way thinking, what the hey, I'll just use that light for when I need light like that. I set it aside and forgot about it.

Now the 2d one, stock, will out throw the HF, but I still much prefer the HF beam and the larger area it lights up.

I apologize for forgetting about my modding and the confusion it may have caused.

 

[Lite_me]

No it doesn't out throw them but it comes pretty close!

I may be able to see 'some' light at a further distance with my SL PP 4AA Lux compared to my 7438, but it's not usefull there.


[Edit] Well__, yes it is, for someone with better eyesight than myself.

 

[Lite_me]

At least for me, my Hocus Focus did not out-thrown my Magled 2D or 3D. The Hocus focus was tested on warm-off-the charger Duracell NiMh cells, and even with the Mags on for a few minutes prior to the testing, the Mags still out-threw it by about 10%. Still quite impressive for a 3AAA flashlight with a Lux1, but also a testament to how well the Mags' reflector focuses.

I have a 4C and a 3D Mag with Mag LED drop-in's. They will out throw my HF 7438 easily. It's just that it's a tight, bright spot, best used for just that. It can't do what the HF can. Not really. These are tools. They have their purpose's.

 

[ace0001a]

I swapped out the Lux1 with an SSCP4 emitter in my Led Lenser. You thought it was impressive before, but with an SSCP4 the light literally seems to blast out of it. One night, the power went out in my neighborhood and it was the first flashlight I went for. I walked out in front of my house just as my neighbors across the street did. It was pitch black and I was lighting up entire sides of houses with it. My neighbor's kids has some cheapy plastic flashlights that barely lit up the space in front of their feet. Right there, I felt total satisfaction in this hobby of ours. :rock:

 

[ace0001a]

...ok, maybe blasting out is a little exaggerated, but it sure felt that way in the pitch black. My LED LENSER is noticeably improved with the emitter swap. And I bought mine for $35 off ebay...

 

[TORCH_BOY]

On a freshly charged set of batteries my Hokus Fokus is very close to my L2D-CE
when on turbo

 

[Strauss]

...ok, maybe blasting out is a little exaggerated, but it sure felt that way in the pitch black. My LED LENSER is noticeably improved with the emitter swap. And I bought mine for $35 off ebay...

How difficult was the swap? I have one of these lights that currently just collects dust, an emitter swap would bring this light back into action!

 

[ace0001a]

How difficult was the swap? I have one of these lights that currently just collects dust, an emitter swap would bring this light back into action!

The head unit was a pain to remove/unscrew. It looks like they used some sort of silicone sealant with it. After unscrewing the head, the emitter sits on a post with the two leads on each side (make sure you figure out which one is which and mark the positive). I desoldered the leads and carefully plucked off the Lux1 emitter. Then I added a really really thin layer of Artic Alumina to the post and let it cure for about an hour. That became the insolation layer for the SSCP4 (remembering the center slug on the emitter is NOT neutral). Then I added a really thin layer of AA to the bottom of the emitter and pressed it into place. Finally I resoldered the wires, screwed back on the head and set it aside for about another hour. Afterwards I popped in the batteries and fired it up--BAM!! I had in my hands what was already any excellent flashlight, much improved. Got to love these new LEDs! :thumbsup:

 

[Gitlaa]

here you go

The hokus fokus is on the left and the l2d ce is on the right

Same pic but 2 stops under exposed

Fenix is on the left this time. the lights are about 8-9 feet away from the ceiling

Enjoy

BTW the L2D was on turbo mode.

 

[ace0001a]

Yup, I personally think the LED Lenser (Hokus Focus) is arguably the best 3AAA you can buy. Given that the 3AAA format seems to be relegated only to lower end flashlights, not that hard to accomplish--but glad that someone did it. It is a bit pricey selling for $50 in the stores here in the US. But like me, you can find one at a lower price on Ebay...

 

[TeaQue]

here you go

The hokus fokus is on the left and the l2d ce is on the right

Same pic but 2 stops under exposed

Fenix is on the left this time. the lights are about 8-9 feet away from the ceiling

Enjoy

BTW the L2D was on turbo mode.

Thanks for the shots!

I really want to get a new light but having such a large stock of rechargable AA/AAA's makes me not want to buy anything that only uses cells that I have to replace

Is there ANYTHING that uses AA/AAA that will be brighter that the Hocus Focus? I'm really weird about lights....I can't seem to justify buying a new one unless its siginificantly better that what I have already!