bigburly912
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I have 15 pounds of lead in my truck floor board. I’m the problem…… it’s me.
dont ever move to a small town!!!!!
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idleprocess
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Man does this topic bring up a lot of my dog is better than your dog pi__ing matches where the arguments stem from different value sets and resolution ... isn't possible.
Lived in small towns on the west coast as a kid, a medium-large town in Louisiana for ~2 years, Dallas area for the overwhelming majority of my adult life with a 1-year interlude in Austin.
Folks left Dallas 15 years ago for a small east Texas city then five years later rural southwest AR where they live on ~7 acres some 10 minutes from town, 30 minutes from a small city, 80 minutes to the nearest airport with scheduled service.
Pluses and minuses all around from my perspective, but a lot of it boils down to activity level. Cities have a lot going on at all times; upside convenience and economic opportunity, downside noise/traffic/depersonalization. Towns have little going on by compare; upside tranquility, downside lack of economic opportunity and inconvenience. Broad strokes generalization, natch.
I've jokingly referred to Dallas as a place to work. It's home because I work here and it's familiar, not because I feel any great sense of belonging.
Lived in small towns on the west coast as a kid, a medium-large town in Louisiana for ~2 years, Dallas area for the overwhelming majority of my adult life with a 1-year interlude in Austin.
Folks left Dallas 15 years ago for a small east Texas city then five years later rural southwest AR where they live on ~7 acres some 10 minutes from town, 30 minutes from a small city, 80 minutes to the nearest airport with scheduled service.
Pluses and minuses all around from my perspective, but a lot of it boils down to activity level. Cities have a lot going on at all times; upside convenience and economic opportunity, downside noise/traffic/depersonalization. Towns have little going on by compare; upside tranquility, downside lack of economic opportunity and inconvenience. Broad strokes generalization, natch.
I've jokingly referred to Dallas as a place to work. It's home because I work here and it's familiar, not because I feel any great sense of belonging.
- Upsides: Economy is reasonable - I very likely won't need to relocate to find work should I need to. Housing market is - corporate relocation wave of a decade ago notwithstanding - still relatively affordable. City is nothing special insofar as large metros go on crime rates.
- Downsides: Summers are sweltering. The Texas power grid is becoming shakier. Specific to my location I'm under one of the approaches for DFW so ~half the time I get to listen to airliners on approach. The city is sprawling and one needs to get into a car to do much anything. And I just don't find the urban prairie as I've experienced it aesthetically pleasing.
jtr1962
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Outskirts of a large city, inner ring suburb, or perhaps "streetcar suburb" might fit the bill somewhat. You're far more likely to find what you're looking for somewhere in the Northeast/New England. These parts were largely developed pre-automobile. There's still a large amount of rail, bus routes, and walkable towns. Only downside is lots of places have crazy housing prices. I might even say where I live is fairly close to what you might want. You get a house here with a 40'x100' lot you have a good amount of personal space but still lots of stuff within walking distance. For many people owning a car could be completely optional. If you need personal transportation, a bike, e-bike, scooter, or moped probably works given the distances and relatively low traffic speeds. You're well under an hour from Manhattan by subway where a lot of the good jobs are.
Downside? Well, our not so large home would probably go for $900K if we sold it. Maybe if you hunted around, not just in my area, but others, you might get something for $750K. I don't know if your skill set would command enough in NYC to be able to afford that.
One other plus for you here is the climate. Outside of summers which can be brutal (but still way cooler than Dallas) the weather is pretty temperate. Spring and fall are usually great (highs in the 40s through 60s). Winter is a little worse (highs in the 30s, lows in the 20s) but we have gotten cold spells much worse. I remember one a few years ago where it didn't get above 15°F for about a week. And we have snow. Very little the last few years, but there were other years with upwards of 50 or 60 inches.
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idleprocess
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I almost certainly cannot afford anything coastal or even inland New England. If I were willing to take on yet another mortgage, perhaps, but much of the point of such a relocation would be to scale down the income requirement.
Lights and Guns
Newly Enlightened
Correct,
The ticket goes to the registered owner of the vehicle. Since they cannot prove who was driving. They just fine you instead... $50 for each infraction ( speed trap and red light cameras) Also, if you are parked in a bus lane, MTA buses now have cameras on them facing outward. The driver will snap a photo of the car blocking the bus lane, and if another bus comes by 5-10 minutes later and the same vehicle is there, and another picture is taken of the vehicle blocking the bus lane... Thats another $50 fine sent to the registered owners house!
Crazy, they find ways to milk the people of the city dry, while most people are barely about to make ends meet since a burger costs $25 here now... and rent is easily over $3000 a month for a lousy out-dated 1 bedroom.
IMA SOL MAN
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Lights and Guns
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Agree with most of what you said here, with that said... Keep this in mind.
It wasn't the action of giving a jay walking ticket that kept the city safer.
It was the pro-active police work that was taking place, (including cops stopping people for jay walking) asking for ID... running them to see if they had warrants and were wanted in connection to any crimes.... THAT is what kept the city safe. The mentality of police is what kept the city safer, the tough of crime and keeping people locked up for lengthy time is what kept the city safer.
I don't think you quite understand just how many guns were taken off the streets because cops were able to approach somebody for jay-walking. Jay walking was a useful tool to be able to approach an individual legally, and stop them and ask for ID. Thats how police work use to be done and should be done. -Through PRO active cops.
That Omni-presence that came from that type of policing scared a lot of people, lots of perps left their guns at home for fear of being stopped by the police, but not today... Cops don't stop anybody anymore thanks to the woke agendas being pushed in the city. So all those perps feel super comfortable carrying their weapons on them, knowing there is no shot of them being ran up on by the police anymore. What a travesty.
PRO ACTIVE cops... Thats a thing of the past....Today we have a bunch of REACTIVE cops... They want to be called to the scene, they want an individual to point somebody out and say on camera "that person did this to me".. Then AND ONLY THEN will the cops (for the most part) take any form of enforcement action against anybody. VERY few cops today are working pro-actively due to anti-police rhetoric that is perpetuated everywhere here in NYC and on the news, its disgusting... Cops cant feel comfortable doing their job because of all the non-sense being spewed. I don't blame the cops at all, they are simply trying to protect themselves today..
Now nobody is kept behind bars, unless they murder somebody...The court system here is a joke once they created the "bail reform laws". That was the straw that broke the camels back. No matter how many arrests a guy has on his record, how much of a POS they are... they are SUPER lenient on them and allow them to walk back out, within hours of being arrested.
For example, roughly 30-40% of ALL shoplifting in NYC (city-wide) is committed by about the same 600 or so people.
Some of these people have over 100 arrests on their record. But guess what, its a revolving door, they keep on being let out.
Imagine they just prosecuted them to the max, and kept them in locked up.... all 600 people. They was cut the amount of shoplifting down by 30-40% overnight!
It wouldn't be hard to do... those people are frequent fliers in handcuffs.
Anyway, thats enough for now... but you cant take everything at face value.... a jaywalking summons was not being used simply people somebody jaywalked. It was used as a tool that lead to bigger things. Such as taking an illegal gun off the streets.
Lights and Guns
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Or can you? Better get checking those old books ...
-- LOL, kidding of course.jtr1962
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I might have been fine if the cops used these minor offenses as a pretense to stop people to check for outstanding warrants, guns, etc. IF they simply let the person off with a warning if nothing was found. Do you realize how many people had to waste a day in court for this nonsense? Even if they didn't intend to fight the fine, they still had to come to court to plead guilty and pay their ticket.
Doing it as I suggested would have the same end result fighting larger crimes without law-abiding citizens getting fined for petty, nonsense offenses. That's part of what resulted in the backlash against police which bought us to where we are today.
Maybe the city should install metal detectors, at least to enter public transit? There are probably lots of technological solutions which might be as effective at stopping crime.
Here I agree. It's one thing letting a person out without bail if this is their first offense, and it's for a minor crime. That's why the no bail policy started. People were being held for weeks or months if they couldn't make bail even for misdemeanors. Unfortunately, we also allowed those with lengthy arrest records to walk. If you've been arrested or convicted several times within a certain time period, then you should be held in prison unless you can make bail. This is another case of a well-meaning policy which came back to bite people in the behind.
See above. These people shouldn't be let out. These are not people stealing from a grocery store because they're hungry. They're part of rings of professional thieves who then fence their stolen goods online.
jtr1962
Flashaholic
OK, I just figured I would suggest it. I agree about not going further into debt. It's a shame it's gotten so expensive to live on the coasts.
IMA SOL MAN
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Don't move to flyover country--there be DRAGONS there!
jtr1962
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Here's a good read on the current crime/anarchy situation in NYC:
New York is on the verge of anarchy – and nobody seems to care
For one thing, even as illegality explodes around us, the vast majority of New Yorkers remain particularly well-behaved. Crime hasn't just declined: in most of New York, it's back to pre-pandemic levels. In fact, when measured against the city's historic highs during the 1980s and 1990s, this is still among the safest-ever eras to make New York City home.
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But convincing New Yorkers to return to law and order will prove far harder now that laissez-faire legality has become the cultural norm. Post George Floyd, New York has little taste for the petty crime crackdowns that defined the Giuliani and Bloomberg administrations. Now accustomed to doing what we want, where we want, when we want it, our standards for citizenship and civility have never felt more fluid.
New York is on the verge of anarchy – and nobody seems to care
For one thing, even as illegality explodes around us, the vast majority of New Yorkers remain particularly well-behaved. Crime hasn't just declined: in most of New York, it's back to pre-pandemic levels. In fact, when measured against the city's historic highs during the 1980s and 1990s, this is still among the safest-ever eras to make New York City home.
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But convincing New Yorkers to return to law and order will prove far harder now that laissez-faire legality has become the cultural norm. Post George Floyd, New York has little taste for the petty crime crackdowns that defined the Giuliani and Bloomberg administrations. Now accustomed to doing what we want, where we want, when we want it, our standards for citizenship and civility have never felt more fluid.
bigburly912
Flashlight Enthusiast
You lost me at MSN.
jtr1962
Flashaholic
I fixed the link. Before it simply said "MSN".
It's a good read regardless of the source.
I could do a better job of balancing this checkbook if I didn't live where I do. Best friend lives near Columbus, Ohio. Things are too hectic now. But giving serious thought to moving out there, permanently. Cost of living there is actually reasonable, instead of obscene.Or can you? Better get checking those old books ...
Lights and Guns
Newly Enlightened
Im sorry, but do you even live in the city? -- LOL!
Have you seen the lines at the airports? -- Your joking with this right?
Sure... we'll just put metal detectors on every single bus, and every entrance in the hundreds of subways stops throughout the 5 boros.
Oh, and magically we'll have enough police to send cops to EACH and EVERY location to monitor these metal detectors....
Just like we do with the RAMPANT turnstile hopping, emergency door usage in the subway system.
It seems like absolutely nobody pays to enter anymore, everybody just fare evades, but for some reason that's been normalized here.
Disgusting behavior.
Especially considering recruitment is down nearly 65% in the NYPD right now. With all the politicizing and vilifying of the police force these stupid libs have done in NYC... Nobody wants to be a police officer anymore. WHO COULD BLAME THEM!? You'd need to be CRAZY to sign up to be a police officer in this climate. The city will throw the cop under the bus SO QUICKLY just to appease some very loud people. It's beyond ridiculous. Police academies uuse to have about 1,150 recruits every academy. The last few have been right around 450-485 recruits in the entire academy class. Meanwhile a mass exodus of cops are retiring and quitting. The NYPD staffing have a crisis on their hands, they are missing thousands of cops and they cant fill the spaces... Also, the few applicants they are able to hire are FAR from the people you ACTUALLY want in that position, its the bottom of the barrel type of people who cannot get any other job/ have no other opportunity available to them, and as a last resort they take the position. That's crazy for the citizens of new york... New yorkers won't have cops there who WANT to be... but who HAVE to be... Less quality individuals means much more likely hood of something going wrong out in the street. People want to defund the police, they are finding out what that means right now and will be for the foreseeable future! Things are only going to get worse from here in NYC. Like it has been for the last decade... Each years, worse and worse... I wonder if this mingrant crisrs will finally be the straw that breaks the camels back... Guess we'll see very soon. I just read texas is sending another very large wave of buses over to us right now.
Hopefully not too close to your house! Or else your idea of NYC being so great might change just a bit
Even if a person steals because they are hungry, it doesn't make their actions "okay" suddenly.
They are committing a crime, there should be a punishment for it. Lots of the times these people are happy to be locked up because they get a warm, dry place to sleep and get fed for free, thanks to the tax paying suckers of society!
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Lights and Guns
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You'd be doing yourself a favor.
Why should we continue to pay for the "luxury" of living in NYC, meanwhile its gone to crap over the last decade and gotten REAL bad the past 2-3 years.
You can take your money out to a place like ohio, texas (just not a border state), florida (just to name a few) and live like a king...
My buddy just moved out to texas about a year a half ago now. He sold his 1 bedroom apartment in the city *(roughly 500k)*
Took the money out there, bought a GIGANTIC house (I call it a mansion) for roughly $385,000 -- and he has over 85k+ left in cash after furnishing the house (give or take). -- apt was paid in full no mortgage.
He is living the dream, Although it's just him and his wife, not sure what he needed such a large house for, but let me tell you, it is GORGEOUS. Good neighborhood, and very large back yard space for pool, BBQ, gardening ect.
Especially to raise children, it's a much better atmosphere.
M@elstrom
Flashlight Enthusiast
Not even close 🤔
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jtr1962
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I'm talking about stuff like this:
The hidden detectors looking for guns and knives
Walk-through systems that can detect weapons are being rolled out, using a combination of AI and radar.
www.bbc.com
I realize traditional metal detectors won't work, and no we don't have the manpower to have each one manned by a cop.
NYC has about 3 times as many police per capita as most other major cities. There isn't a staffing crisis. It's possible there may be one down the road if the retirements continue, and they can't get people, but for now the problem isn't lack of manpower.
Well, this IS concerning. Ultimately, it may come down to the citizenry having to take matters into their own hands if the police can't or won't do their job.
They already are. There's the tent city at Creedmore, which is only a couple of miles from me. Hard truth is the migrant problem is created by the fact businesses readily hire them because they want cheap labor. If they couldn't find jobs when they came here, word would get out, and they would stop coming. BOTH parties have been complicit in this. In the city the rich liberals are too cheap to pay normal wages for their hired help. In red states they love to get migrants to do stuff like pick lettuce for $2 a day. I find it amazing the migrants are coming here with empty pockets, but then many magically get mopeds when they arrive. Or more like the delivery apps buy them mopeds so they can exploit them doing deliveries.I wonder if this mingrant crisrs will finally be the straw that breaks the camels back... Guess we'll see very soon. I just read texas is sending another very large wave of buses over to us right now.
Hopefully not too close to your house! Or else your idea of NYC being so great might change just a bit
We don't want busloads of migrants, start by arresting the employers who hire them, and levy heavy fines against them. We also really need to rethink this "sanctuary city" thing. I don't think anyone ever anticipated it would result in THIS many people arriving at once.
Never said it was OK. I'm just saying I might understand not requiring bail for such a case, but it definitely should be required for professional shoplifters with lengthy arrest records. No argument that many of the problems we're seeing lately are self-inflicted by the brain-dead policies of our last Mayor. But leaving isn't the answer. Eventually the same problems catch up to you no matter where you are.
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