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One of these days I might have one as well
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I'd bet a brand new CNMG insert that you'll have one sooner than later :D

it was confusing since the part numbers are the same for both style TPs
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Dorian could not possibly make it more difficult to buy the "new" SQCTP. The old style is always black, which is simple enough. The transition style still uses the old style wedge mechanism but with a paint job nearly identical to the new Wedge Lock. It took me a long time and a few phone calls to get it sorted out.

Your photos really help make it clear for the next buyer ...

The OLD
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The NEW
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precisionworks said:
I'd bet a brand new CNMG insert that you'll have one sooner than later :D

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Dorian could not possibly make it more difficult to buy the "new" SQCTP. The old style is always black, which is simple enough. The transition style still uses the old style wedge mechanism but with a paint job nearly identical to the new Wedge Lock. It took me a long time and a few phone calls to get it sorted out.

Your photos really help make it clear for the next buyer ...

The OLD
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The NEW
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I learn it in a hard way. I ordered the starter kit from MSC, when it was on sale last week. I was totally surprised when I received it. It came with the "old" style post. I have to call MSC tomorrow and see if they can find me the new style post.
 
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I ordered the starter kit from MSC, when it was on sale last week.
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How much did they sell it for? Whenever I try to buy Aloris or Dorian from MSC, they discount very little - unless it's a closeout.

It came with the "old" style post.
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I imagine there are quite a few of those sitting on shelves all over the country. They should be able to fix you up with the new style, and will probably have Dorian drop ship directly to you. Ask MSC for a UPS Call Tag so that they pay shipping to return the incorrect one.
 
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How much did they sell it for? Whenever I try to buy Aloris or Dorian from MSC, they discount very little - unless it's a closeout.

I imagine there are quite a few of those sitting on shelves all over the country. They should be able to fix you up with the new style, and will probably have Dorian drop ship directly to you. Ask MSC for a UPS Call Tag so that they pay shipping to return the incorrect one.
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Discount was 25% with free shipping. With tax, it turns out to be $587.73. I was ordering some other stuff, or else I would just order from the place you got yours...

I hope MSC would send a UPS call tag, so I don't have to pay return shipping.
 
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I hope MSC would send a UPS call tag
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They will, as long as they realize that the error is theirs. If the customer service rep doesn't want to do that, ask to speak with a supervisor - they don't want a big hassle over a $10 return shipping charge.

If you do have to pay to ship it back, a USPS Flat Rate Box, either small or medium, should work at minimal cost.
 
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They will, as long as they realize that the error is theirs. If the customer service rep doesn't want to do that, ask to speak with a supervisor - they don't want a big hassle over a $10 return shipping charge.

If you do have to pay to ship it back, a USPS Flat Rate Box, either small or medium, should work at minimal cost.
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If they give you trouble, you can always reference the picture they have posted online of the TP set which now shows a picture of the new wedge style TP.

The small flat rate box is only good for a few holders & the cardboard is pretty thin. Would definitely have to go in a medium.

Hope you get it worked out but I'm sure MSC will take care of it.
 
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If they give you trouble, you can always reference the picture they have posted online of the TP set which now shows a picture of the new wedge style TP.

The small flat rate box is only good for a few holders & the cardboard is pretty thin. Would definitely have to go in a medium.

Hope you get it worked out but I'm sure MSC will take care of it.
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Thanks Barry and Will. Yeah, I see what you mean. The description of their tool post mentions "Triple action locking system", which I believe is the new style. I have to look for the pciture that you are talking about.
 
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Yup, that's the one. :) If you search for just the tool post by itself it shows the old black one but if you look at the set it shows the new one. However if you click the link to see the catalog it shows & describes the old one.

When I talked to the engineer at Dorian he stated that he didn't think anyone should still have the old style in stock as they stopped making it in 2007. During our conversation & MSC came up, he also stated that he thought for sure MSC shouldn't have the old one in stock either. Looks like there are quite a few of the old style with the red paint job in stock at various vendors across the nation. I'm not sure what the demand for TPs are in the industry but judging by how long they last I can't imagine them to be good sellers so I'm not surprised?

As Barry mentioned as well as the Dorian engineer, best way to get it for sure is to have one dropped shipped from Dorian as they don't have any of the older ones in stock (they consider them obsolete).
 
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I'm not sure what the demand for TPs are in the industry but judging by how long they last I can't imagine them to be good sellers
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When you look at the number of CNC machines sold & run daily versus manual machines, it becomes clear that a QCTP is not the fastest moving item on the shelf. Add to that the availability of inexpensive Asian copies of both Aloris & the old style Dorian, and the high end QCTP is not a "must have" item for many users.

I wouldn't have paid retail ... what a terrible word ... for the Dorian SQCTP had it not had features available nowhere else. From looking at the internal construction, this design will be hard to copy in Shenzhen or Chongqing.

Which is a good thing :nana:
 
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Well, MSC insists they shipped the correct part from their stock. They didn't want to pay for the return shipping. So after a little bit of back and forth, they gave me their UPS account #. In stead of sending a call tag, I have to bring the return package to a UPS counter. At least I don't have to pay for it.

On the other hand, they can drop-ship a new style starter kit from Dorian, but they can't give me any discount. Forget it. I just ordered the kit from Ajax. I should have done it in the first place.

Will and Barry, thanks for the help.
 
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