driver for the new Seoul P7

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the new seoul P7 can be driven up to 2.8 amps, but what power driver will actually get that kind of output? In the past i have been using the 3023 buckpucks, but they only go to 1000ma.
I'd be coming from a 12/14 volt power supply
 
mds82,

There are a few drivers that can have both their inputs and outputs put in parallel without the electronics interfering. I heard of someone hooking two drivers from DX in parallel and he successfully had combined current outputs. I bought the same drivers and tried it myself. I have two of them in parallel, running from 2 li-ion cells, and it powered the LED at ~2000mA. Here is the driver:
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.3256
It is rated for 800mA according to the site, but we have found that the current varies quite a bit between each one (from 700mA to 1000mA). I was fortunate to get two that were both providing ~1000mA to the LED.

Theoretically, any buck circuit should work this way, but there is often conflicts with the signals from the driver's ICs and component values that may cause instability and reduced efficiency.

You could try connecting several different types of drivers from DX/KD in parallel to test which work in multiples. Fortunately, those drivers are relatively cheap. You may be able to study the designs of some to see if component values interfere (increase or decrease due to being connected in parallel).

With the driver I mentioned above, you may need three or four together to get ~2.8A. If the current is too high, but sort of close, I heard that you can sand/file/scrape the top of the sense resistor to reduce current some.

Oh, and the only driver (or actually just IC) that is designed to be attached in parallel is the AMC 7135 ICs. They are basic linear current regulators, but you can 8 attached in parallel to get the needed 2.8A. They require an input voltage of 3.6-4.5V, so they would be great for li-ion, or three NiMH cells. I am unsure about efficiency, but they are simple and easy to use. Here is a link for their 1400mA version (four AMC ICs in parallel on each driver). You could just attach two of the boards in parallel...
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.1886

I, too, am exploring circuits for the Seoul P7. I am expecting one to come in the mail soon, then I will start testing it with my CC power supply and begin ordering flashlight parts for it. I am stuck between using 2 li-ion cells and the first driver I mentioned (sku 2356 -3 in parallel), or just direct driving the emitter from a li-ion or 3 NiMH cells (if the voltages will allow). With using the lower voltages (maybe in DD), I can then use George's D2DIM PWM driver to dim the Seoul P7. I wonder how efficient the AMC 7135 drivers are, because I can always hook 8 in parallel. So, I hope you can find drivers; good luck. I will be on the search as well...

-Tony
 
You are right about the 7135's being linear regulators. What that actually means is that they just "eat" the excess voltage not needed to achieve the set current. The set current to from the driver will be the same in to the driver.

Example:
You have a 4.2V power source and want to power a LED at 1000mA. The LED will then need let's say 3.5V. That means the regulator need to eat away 4.2-3.5=0,7V of the sources 4,2V.
Power drawn from the source is then 4.2V*1000mA=4200mW
Power drawn bye the LED is 3.5V*1000mA=3500mW
This translates to an efficiency of 3500/4200=83%

The higher the supply source voltage becomes compared to the output voltage from the driver becomes, the lower the efficiency becomes. And the closer the supply voltage becomes to the output voltage from the regulator, the higher the efficiency becomes.

Linear regulators will need some excess voltage at its input compared to its output in order to regulate to the right current.


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I bet you could run the SSCP7 direct drive in a 3D Mag with NiMH batteries and a modified O-sink...you should get a similar focus in a Mag reflector as you would using a Luxeon V.
 
I bet you could run the SSCP7 direct drive in a 3D Mag with NiMH batteries and a modified O-sink...you should get a similar focus in a Mag reflector as you would using a Luxeon V.
I wonder if it would survive DD on 4 cells or let out its magic smoke?
 
I'm just wondering if companies will come up with a new design for their drivers to be able to support that kind of output. Most all drivers on the market now are 350, 700, 1000ma drivers, i once saw a 1400ma driver, but that is still half the power needed.
 
3 nimh cells might be ok.

Stu

Well I believe it should... Elektrolumens has been selling multi-SSCP4 emittered Mag dropins that run direct drive off in 3D Mags. As far as I know he runs the emitters in parallel and they work fine. So based on that, I am almost sure you could mount an SSCP7 on a modified O-sink and that it should work ok in a the Mag reflector...like a Lux V, you won't get a tight hotspot...more of a big blob of a hotspot with lots of flood.
 
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