Durability of 6P's black type II anod?

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I'm tempted to buy my first Surefire and the 6P looks very nice. But then I noticed it's type II anod. Could someone compare it with military type III anod in terms of durability? Thanks!
 
Type II anodising is no match for Type III (Hard) anodising.
It'll wear, scratch and chip far more easily.

Perhaps should should get a G2L instead?
 
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Thanks. What a pitty... for me the 6p is of perfect size and look. G2's plastic body doesn't appeal to me though.
 
The 6P's Type II will chip and scratch...but what's wrong with a few character marks?

Regards,
Tempest
 
Thanks. What a pitty... for me the 6p is of perfect size and look. G2's plastic body doesn't appeal to me though.

Seconded.

The closest you can get to an HA 6P is to mod a C2 with an aftermarket body tube. Unfortunately the only aftermarket body out there (as far as I know) comes from the BigLeef system and is very expensive. BigLeef adapter ring + battery tube + battery tube + switch = $41 + $38 + $38 + $51 = $168. Add the cost of a C2 and the total hits $313. Leef did make a $50 C series HA body tube but it's long sold out.
 
Well, my 6P is at LEAST 15 years old and shows it. Scuffed, scarred and faded it just keeps on workin'. I just put a Surefire LED module in it and it's even better than before with a bright light AND long runtime.

It was a gift from my son, who used it from Virginia to Alaska, and my first non stream/m*g flashlight and I still use it like a rented mule.

Get yourself one, treat it like crap and it'll come back for more when other lights have given up. And don't worry about the scratches. Each one will have its own story to tell and memory to re-live.
 
I dunno, guys, but Type II anodizing is plenty of abrasion protection for most tasks. I EDC'ed a 2AA minimag for years and years, and it really didn't look that bad after all the abuse.

Now, if you're looking for an excuse to get (the sexier) C2... I have no objection!
 
It's ok that the 6P is type II but the 6PL, 6PD should be HAIII since they are more expensive.
 
Agreed with the rest, the type II is fine.. any light will get scratched/scuffed with normal use. I bet if you looked in the phone book there is a shop close that could re-anodize it any number of colors if you became disgusted with the "used" look.. lol

Also the G2's are very strong, i abuse mine daily and it just begs for more... :thumbsup:
 
It's ok that the 6P is type II but the 6PL, 6PD should be HAIII since they are more expensive.
Nope - they're also Type II anodizing. The higher price is because of the LED module.

(Al, insert here long explanation about "HAIII" being incorrect.) :nana:
 
For what surefire is charging for their flashlights, all their flashlights should be HAIII.
 
I have several original Surefire 6R's that I bought in the late 80's for work that I have used exclusively now as 6P's since at least 1990 and have several original 6Z's too. I have upgraded them over the years with items such as the new style pyrex window bezels, LOTC's, and aftermarket LED dropins. They are all type II black. Yes they show shiney aluminum wear marks at the sharp edges and show bare aluminum through the heavy scratches, nicks and dings and around the knurling. The finish wear has in no way effected the function or use of the light. It works as good today as it did when new. Is HA III better? Yes, but it's not really necessary. If the 6P style is what you want go ahead and get it. I think you will be very happy with the quality, durability and upgradability to the newest LED drop ins as time goes by.
 
I have several original Surefire 6R's that I bought in the late 80's for work that I have used exclusively now as 6P's since at least 1990 and have several original 6Z's too. I have upgraded them over the years with items such as the new style pyrex window bezels, LOTC's, and aftermarket LED dropins. They are all type II black. Yes they show shiney aluminum wear marks at the sharp edges and show bare aluminum through the heavy scratches, nicks and dings and around the knurling. The finish wear has in no way effected the function or use of the light. It works as good today as it did when new. Is HA III better? Yes, but it's not really necessary. If the 6P style is what you want go ahead and get it. I think you will be very happy with the quality, durability and upgradability to the newest LED drop ins as time goes by.

Best recommendation for Surefire I have seen yet.
I'm thinking I'll order my second 6PL.
Wait let me check my account balance...
 
I have also created an HA Natural 9P for about $25 more money than a stock HA II 9P. I used a Leef HA Nat 2x18500/3x123 custom body and added a stock Surefire HA Nat bezel and LOTC.
It is shorter than the original stock 6R and runs on two protected 18500 li-on rechargeable batteries and/or when they run out on three primary 123's.
The setup is more versatile than the 6R kit and can run brighter incandescent D26 dropins other than the stock P90 such as the LF HO-9 and EO-9.

The HA has been showing no wear other than aluminum showing through dings on the bezel rim. I can't say it functions better than an type II finished light but it looks/wears better!
 
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The HA III has been showing no wear other than aluminum showing through dings on the bezel rim. I can't say it functions better than an HAII finished light but it looks/wears better!
Using the term "HAIII" is like saying "Hard Anodised Hard Anodised" - you don't have to use HA and III - either will do.
Technically, this redundancy is a form of rhetorical tautology, and in many cases a pleonasm.

Using the term "HAII" is just down right wrong.
It's either Type II, or it is Type III (HA) - it can't be both.
It's like saying "Hard Anodised Soft Anodised".
There is no such thing as "HAII"

Al :thumbsup:
 
Well, my 6P is at LEAST 15 years old and shows it. Scuffed, scarred and faded it just keeps on workin'. I just put a Surefire LED module in it and it's even better than before with a bright light AND long runtime.

I'd love to see a pic of your 6P :D Well-used lights always look better.

Regards,
Tempest
 
Sorry but I don't like the discarded worn look. If my flashlight gets too beat up I would polish it out to look like these:

http://www.cpfmarketplace.com/mp/showthread.php?t=177811&page=2



I did that to a Mag 2D a while back.. used 80 grit glass media in my blaster cabinet to get the anodizing off then sanded with 1000 grit, then a while on the buffing wheel.

After seeing those pics, i might do the same to my 9P since it's pretty ugly.. lol
 
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