Early Surefire 6P with packaging and DL223AC battery

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I have a question about the bezel pictured above ....

Are those ( three ? ) small set-screws there in the bezel ?

Any chance of a macro-type close-up photo on those ?

Thanks !

EDIT - Also, what does the label on the lamp read ? Photos of that would also be of interest.
 
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How old is that lithium battery ?

If you ask me, that thing is in horrible shape. No collectible value at all. I’ll gladly save you the embarrassment and take it off your hands for a small fee. I won’t charge you much.
 

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I have a question about the bezel pictured above ....

Are those ( three ? ) small set-screws there in the bezel ?

Any chance of a macro-type close-up photo on those ?

Thanks !

EDIT - Also, what does the label on the lamp read ? Photos of that would also be of interest.

They definitely are traces from impact crown screws ImageUploadedByCandlepowerforums1603024401.222592.jpg
 
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There are four equally spaced indentations on the exterior of the bezel... looking closer, they look like were left behind by set screws.

The bulb doesn't appear to be anything special, label states "6V Lamp * Laser Products *P60"
 

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TG the R60 went into the 6R light, which was the one with the extension and blue battery. It had a wee bit less output for slightly better runtime. (50 lumens instead of 65 or something similar).
 

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Ok thanks. I'm guessing that might be a later vintage replacement lamp.

If the Laser Systems labeled P60 module isn't correct for this vintage, what should be in it? I am not arguing, I am simply not finding anything that supports your "guess." Fill us in, we are all here to learn.
 

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If the Laser Systems labeled P60 module isn't correct for this vintage, what should be in it? I am not arguing, I am simply not finding anything that supports your "guess." Fill us in, we are all here to learn.

According to the thread link I had already posted above, and the exact generation of this flashlight, that could possibly be the 6L / 6LF.

CPF member @ampdude would know better than I.

SureFire had a tendency (especially in the early days) of "overlapping" rolling changes in parts / tech / design / naming / labeling / packaging / etc.
 
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It looks like some of your paperwork references the 6LF replacement lamp, although (of course) there is no guarantee that is necessarily of the same "vintage" as the flashlight, and (as stated above) SF was known to "reuse" prior packaging and such with later "upgraded" models.
 

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To add: it also mentions duracell batteries Arch. (7th photo down.) That is what made me think P60 not R60. PK once told me the 6R was aimed at police and rescue folks and the R60 gave them more runtime between charges. If you ever see an R60 versus a P60 you'll see throw is nearly identical for locating perps and injured people but the spill is noticeably less.
 
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Fascinating! That's a beautiful light! Never knew there were 6V batteries wrapped up like that.

My M3 also has scars from a GG&G T.I.D. Handy piece of kit in the right context.
 

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I am a beginner in the flashlight world but that 6V battery really seems odd. I don't remember seeing a 6V lithium battery before. Is that usually found in the wild or?
 

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That battery got my interest as well, I've got the 6P and 9P of a similar vintage but it would be interesting to know the dimensions of the DL223AC battery. Does it have any mAh details on the exterior?
 
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These are just two shrink-wrapped regular lithium CR123A batteries from what I know. You can almost see the batteries in the picture (Duracells).
It has been discussed here: https://www.candlepowerforums.com/v...ts-Sure-Fire&p=3325246&viewfull=1#post3325246

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