I have used a couple in some lights I have built, and they are alright. My only complaint is that they have a yellowish ring around the hotspot. I left a bike light i built on for about 30mins on the counter and it got really hot, and I think the dome pulled away from the LED, and now its got a very small hot spot and alot of yellow around it. I never got this with the crees. I still have a few more that I am gonna play with, but I think I am going to switch to the crees or the SSC. But yes, isolate the bottom. I have been using Kahtod optics with my edisons, and the narrow beam seem best from them, as the wider beam optics seem to be noticeably less efficient and the narrow beam gives the same coverage. But the Luxeon reflectors that I have floating around seem to work quite well with them.