Elzetta- The industry's best kept secret.

[Modernflame]

Bleh, I hate to say it. I think I am starting to appreciate neutral too **Washes mouth with soap**
Yes I know, I'm a 6 year old at heart. But I still have a favorite color and it's blue. I want everything blue. My walls. My flashlight tint. My skin. Okay jk not my skin. Well I mean that would be pretty cool.. Well maybe not.. Only for a day.. ANYWAYS. The rosy tint of the ElZetta almost makes me feel.. Warm and fuzzy inside.. I actually love it! I never thought I'd say that.. But it's gorgeous and in a way dangerous because I would shine it at an attacker and be like "Awww you look so beautiful in this lighting"

I hear ya, brother. At some point, I figured out that I like warm, neutral, and cool. They've all got something unique to contribute. The lack of a traditional "hot spot" also adds to the Elzetta's overall sense of smoothness. It's good for situational awareness, but it is also easy on the eyes.

 

[BugoutBoys]

I hear ya, brother. At some point, I figured out that I like warm, neutral, and cool. They've all got something unique to contribute. The lack of a traditional "hot spot" also adds to the Elzetta's overall sense of smoothness. It's good for situational awareness, but it is also easy on the eyes.

It is definitely easy on the eyes. You kinda stop thinking about it

 

[BugoutBoys]

Elzetta offers specific engineered lights for sale. You like it, buy it. You don't like it, don't buy it.
One can't expect the manufacturer to change their design to cater to a few customers wants.
I think is what is being expressed here.

I agree 1000%. There will never be a way to please EVERYONE. I find that ElZetta markets towards one specific market and they do it very, very well. It’s like if someone complained that Lamborghini doesn’t make an off-roader. It’s not their target audience.

 

[xdayv]

Anyone using a high/low tailcap on the Bones?

 

[bykfixer]

Anyone using a high/low tailcap on the Bones?

Yup,

Well used it for a few minutes anyway. High was normal. Low looked like it dropped to about 80-90% of full output. I couldn't see the benefit so I put back the stock tailcap.

 

[INFRNL]

My skin. Okay jk not my skin. Well I mean that would be pretty cool.. Well maybe not.. Only for a day.. ANYWAYS.

First of all....What part of Colorado are you from? I live In Colorado Springs.

Secondly, If you want to have blue skin, I'm sure there is a way and we could call you a smurf

I watched a movie a while back, can't remember what it was called. It had something to do with a couple kids and a guy not so nice to the kids. Well the kids were getting back at this guy and put something in his pool (If I recall correctly) which turned him blue for a little while. Probably some kind of dye....could always give that a shot for a temporary change of skin color...HAHAHA!


Glad you are growing to like Neutral tints more and glad you are happy with your Elzetta

 

[BugoutBoys]

First of all....What part of Colorado are you from? I live In Colorado Springs.

Secondly, If you want to have blue skin, I'm sure there is a way and we could call you a smurf

I watched a movie a while back, can't remember what it was called. It had something to do with a couple kids and a guy not so nice to the kids. Well the kids were getting back at this guy and put something in his pool (If I recall correctly) which turned him blue for a little while. Probably some kind of dye....could always give that a shot for a temporary change of skin color...HAHAHA!


Glad you are growing to like Neutral tints more and glad you are happy with your Elzetta

JUST Southeast of Boulder!

Oh man I remember that movie. I think it was called Big Fat Liar!

 

[XR6Toggie]

I finally found a pouch that allows me to keep my Charlie on my belt. I picked up a Nite Ize Lite Holster Stretch and it’s doing the job well. I wish Elzetta offered pouches too.

 

[BugoutBoys]

OK funny question, so I know the ZFL with the Malkoff module can be disassembled underwater because it’s fully sealed. Can the AVS head do the same thing? Because the LED is exposed If you remove the TIR lens

 

[Modernflame]

OK funny question, so I know the ZFL with the Malkoff module can be disassembled underwater because it’s fully sealed. Can the AVS head do the same thing? Because the LED is exposed If you remove the TIR lens

I saw a youtube video of a guy fully disassembling an AVS underwater, optic and all. So it can apparently be done, but I think this is Kamikaze crazy because the emitter is directly exposed to water. Certainly have not tried it with mine. As far as the ZFL M60, the drop in is not actually sealed. I confirmed this with Gene Malkoff (the original designer) while asking some other questions. Water will seep in past the optic and into the module. The Elzetta folks have demonstrated that it will work wet, but I think they've oversold it. I maintain my Elzetta O-rings just like any other flashlight.

 

[slumber]

Water will get past the optic on the M60. I’ve had this happen to an old M60 I rinsed off after sanding it to diffuse the beam a bit. Water got in, but the drop kept working. Since the beam on that particular drop in was so bad and I was further abusing the optic with sand paper, I didn’t care.
With all my other Elzetta/Malkoff products, I also take care to keep o rings in place and lubed. I would imagine water stains on the LED could reduce the output a little.

 

[BugoutBoys]

I'm sorry if this has been answered already, but anyone know why ElZetta stopped making the models that use Malkoff drop ins?

 

[Modernflame]

To my knowledge, they have not publicly stated the reason. Some of us have speculated that the 235 lm model is no longer a popular seller. Others have suggested that Elzetta is planning to release a new model, but I doubt anyone knows for sure.

 

[bykfixer]

I'm sorry if this has been answered already, but anyone know why ElZetta stopped making the models that use Malkoff drop ins?

It was a selling point early on.

"Look, our lights are so BA they even have M60's by Malkoff Devices". While they were working on their own supply it was logical to use M60's. That also helped Gene fund his deal early on. Win-win.

Later they started making their own emitters. They have more control over output now.

Once upon a time SureFire had Streamlight bulbs... yup.... some very early SureFires had a Streamlight bulb in it. Not all, but when supply was short of Carley bulbs a Streamlight bulb got used in the batch.

 

[Dicaeopolis]

I have a Bravo and a Charlie both with the Malkoff modules. I finally bought an AVS head and put it on my Charlie with the high/low switch. I really like it and it is smaller than I thought it would be. I would recommend Elzetta to anyone. I am very pleased with it. I just got it today, so I won't be using it in the dark until tonight. Very cool though. Now I will have to buy another body to put the M60 in .

 

[peter yetman]

There's always something, isn't there?
Got a new drop in coming this week and nothing for it to live in permanantly.
P

 

[vento611]

https://i.imgur.com/hQuEnXN.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/WfIy5FY.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/oGNffpl.jpg
Elzetta MOD
XM-L2 U4 1A + H17F

 

[BugoutBoys]

https://i.imgur.com/hQuEnXN.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/WfIy5FY.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/oGNffpl.jpg
Elzetta MOD
XM-L2 U4 1A + H17F

WOAH how'd you change the tint? Just swap the LED?

 

[vento611]

WOAH how'd you change the tint? Just swap the LED?

I have 3 Bored Elzetta Bravo, I modded all 3, I did a complete rebuild, H17F driver in all 3, 1 I swapped the emitter to a XM-L2 U4 1A (cool blue) and the other 2 I left the original LED in.

im not claiming my numbers to be more accurate than elzetta claims, but the following numbers were good enough for me to compare one another.

LUX at 1 meter:

Stock AVS Charlie 3xCR123 :16500
Stock AVS Bravo 2xCR123 :10500
AVS Bravo 1x18650 :9600
MOD Bravo 1x18650 XP-L V6-3A :18600 hard to center emitter but can be done a special gasket- same size hotspot with a slightly smaller spill.
MOD Bravo 1x18650 XP-L HI V3-3A :20500 smaller hotspot and spill- very ugly beam profile.
MOD Bravo 1x18650 XM-L2 U4-1A :16600 modded one to this.
MOD Bravo 1x18650 original emitter :16200 modded 2 to this.

now I can run a Bravo with the same performance of a Charlie using 3500mah 18650 with all the feature available in the H17F driver.
Caution though direct drive will kill the Elzetta switch, melt the plastic lens holder and fry the bond wires on the LED. Had to rebuild the switch with a Mcclicky, machined a metal lens holder (prefer the original holder though) and for the LED... the XM-L2 U4-1A seems to handle DD better. but anyway I permanently disabled DD so it cant be accidently accessed.

 

[BugoutBoys]

That is very, very impressive. I love it!
It looks like the original LED is an XM-L2 (not sure the bin. U3?) and I measured it at around 4200k last night with a tad of magenta. How complicated do you think it would be to simply unscrew and unmount the original LED and swap with just a cooler (in the ballpark of 5600k) LED? I'm debating doing it