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Cyclops942

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Folks,
I've visited Technology Associates' web pages for the Eternalight (http://www.techass.com/el/el1.htm) and think I really, really want one of these Ergo or Ergo Marine models. The problem, quite frankly, is paying that much for what seems to be, essentially, a toy. Granted, it's a way cool toy, but I can't see where it's really going to be all that useful as a flashlight.
I "invested" (hubby-speak for "spent money on a toy") about $20 on a 3-LED replacement "bulb assembly" for my 3-D cell MagLight, and I'm very much un-impressed with the reach of beam it casts (this is the ML-3 from NDS, which has only the 3 LEDs, not the one from LEDCorp, which apparently focuses the output from the LEDs), but it does make my MagLight into an excellent dog-walking light. (I can see more than well enough to pick up his "recycling deposits," and there's _no_ question that oncoming traffic can see the light if I wave it at them. Also, the fact that it's an LED assembly assures me that I won't have to buy another bulb for this flashlight for years. (I was encouraged to buy an LED assembly for this light exactly because the bulb burnt out on me while I was using it, and the spare bulb in the tailcap was also black and useless.) Plus, since the light is in a 3-D cell MagLight body, it's a little extra security {although, if they get past my Chow-Shepherd mix, I'm in deep dog-doo anyway}.) I have been carrying a StreamLight SL-20X for my dog walks, which is a 30,000-CP rechargeable with a very tightly-focused beam, so I realize I'm comparing apples to raisins, here.
Having said all that, while the modified MagLight does rate rather low on the usefulness scale, it rates quite high on the coolness scale. The light that it casts is even and white, and colors of the objects it hits are quite sharp and easy to distinguish. When shone on highly-reflective objects such as traffic signs and license plates, it reflects brilliantly even from distances of half a block, and this is over the irritating orange glare of the sodium streetlights.
How useful is the EternaLight as a flashlight in a suburban situation, where you have the streetlights, garage lights, security lights, etc.?
 
IMO, As an owner of an Eternalight, I concur, that basically, if you look at some measures of performance, it's not worth the money. It's not that bright, and the beam has a wide dispersion.

When I bought mine I liked the novelty of the different modes, if you need a timer, or a variable rate flasher, it may be just the thing.

I noticed that at one point the market had driven the prices quite a bit lower, and some places stopped carrying the basic model.

I found the PAL light was much simpler and more handy for my kind of use.

DaveH
 
I will also concur about the eternalight. I have one and I rarely use it. It is cool for neat flashing stuff but beyond that, it does not come out often.

I still like the white infinity over all for a simple, always have task light, even over the photon because I use it so much.

I just got the LED corp PR replacement for mag light. I put it in my 3 c-cell light. It is nice. I was a bit dissapointed in the light output as I expected more. I think my batteries may be down or I did not clean the corrosion very well when batteries blew up last time but nevertheless, the focusable light is really nice. I was able to project a narrow beam for at least 75 feet and could see reasonably even with light pollution of a city. I want to get a new D mag light to try it in that.

I have a Pal Gold but the beam is very narrow and does not provide a secondary halo of light like the pr replacement does, which is quite nice. I also have various home made 4 LED headlamps which are very nice but I must say the Petzl Tikka headlamp is the best headlamp I have seen yet for light output and size.

Overall, skip the expensive flashing features of the eternalight and go with something with 3 or more diodes for general lighting. The Edwood sunblaster is cool but is approaching the current draw for a standard mag krypton bulb so the only benifit there is white light rather than yellow yuck.
 
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I would also suggest a Trek 7 white, I heard they upgraded the LED's since I got mine, but I haven't seen them to confirm that. Even with my light using 7 4800mcd LED's it is the brightest LED light I have, and I have a couple
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If they really did switch to the 5600mcd LED's it would really be bright, but still nothing compared to "Edwood Sunblaster".

Brock - http://www.uwgb.edu/nevermab/led.htm
 
Yes, play with someone elses unless you have some disposable income.

My Eternalight is also getting bad battery contacts because of the flimsy case and contact material. Battery change also requires a small phillips and that is a negative in my opinion.
 
I agree with the other posters, save your money for a Edwood Sunblaster or go with the Trek 7 white. Unless you really want the features the Trek gives more beam for the buck and the batteries are cheap and easily changed. Both the Eternalight and Expedition (Trek 7) can be found on E-bay for about the same money.

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What kind of price should I try for on e-bay if I just simply *have* to have an EternaLight?

(Oh, I also have to admit I like the flashing lights... I even bought a DashLaser for my truck. {A DashLaser is a dash- or visor-mounted strobe light for emergency vehicles.} I got really p***ed off when I was trying to direct traffic with a magnesium flare, and people were acting like they couldn't see me, so I got a by-golly-they'll-see-*this* light.)
 
I vaguely remember reading something on this board about a custom-built light that I believe is the Edwood Sunblaster you're talking about, but could you pass me the reference to that, so I can refresh my memory?

And if I supply the 3-cell MagLight, would Edwood give me a discount? (I know, I know, I'd have to ask that one myself.)
 
Go to E-bay...type in LED FLASHLIGHT...scroll down to December 18 click on first one (burns for 29 days or somthing like that)...to the right of the sellers name you will see a number, in this case 210...click on that...now start clicking on the item numbers at the right side of your screen...work your way down and you will start seeing the eternalights come up...you can see what were sucessful bids in the past, as well as buyers comments...I saw one of the model 3`s go for $40 bucks but as we are getting closer to Christmas I do not think that would be repeated at this time.

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Cyclops942,

If you're flexible concerning models, send a a message in email ( See my profile ) I could fix you up.

DaveH
 
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The one I'm borrowing now seems to be a newer model, as it is significantly brighter than I remember yours being.

If this were my flashlight, I'd be more than happy to let you take it for a spin. But it'a a loaner, and I don't think the guy would be too happy to hear I just sent his $60 light to Wisconson! :-O

He did give me permission to thrash it, so I have thrown it around the house a couple of times - something I did not do to yours.

http://ledmuseum.home.att.net



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Hello,
I have one of the new Eternalights and I am quite pleased with it. I originally had one of the black ones, but replaced it with the Marine model. The company was very easy to work with and seemed to want my satisfaction. What I ended up with was the latest "Marine" model with the "new membrane" and ver 2.0 of software. If a person wanted to make sure they got this, I would probably order direct from the Mfg. and request it. The new software is quite nice as it allows you to check the condition of the batteries without actually opening up the case.
Explained at bottom of FAQ here.... http://www.techass.com/el/elfaq.htm
The case, to my untrained eye, seemed to be more sturdy, less plastic, and more worthy of the high price. The lights "seemed" brighter than the other model I had. If I lost it, I would certainly buy another as I have gotten used to the low power consumption and convenience of its flat profile in my pocket.

I also have one of the new Pal lights that has the electronic switching. It is quite nice but I let my daughter have it so she can find it in the dark at night and my mother in law talked me out of the other one for her purse. I will probably order another for myself.

I also just got one of the newer red/white flashlights by Rigel Systems. Hardin optical had the best price I found by far.
$21.95 Some wanted as much as 50 bucks. http://store.yahoo.com/hardin-optical/rigsysskylle.html

All of these have their own niche/use in my life. The new Marine model Eternalight is one of my favorites.
 
Okay, so I'm still drooling over the EternaLight's features, and I'll almost certainly get one after Christmas, unless my wife REALLY surprises me and gets me one; I'm convinced that a PAL (probably the Gold) is a nice suggestion for a Valentine's Day gift from my wife, and I have four CMG Infinity Task Lights en route via UPS right this minute.

So, until I manage to acquire the EternaLight (which will be a model 2), what features about it make it most appealing? Which ones weren't all that impressive?

(I've already read, re-read, printed, and then re-re-read telephony's review on his site, so he only needs to chime in if there's something he'd like to emphasize or add, unless he just really feels like it.)

Impatiently waiting for more toy-- er, research tools
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Kris Cox
 
Okay, so I'm still drooling over the EternaLight's features, and I'll almost certainly get one after Christmas, unless my wife REALLY surprises me and gets me one; I'm convinced that a PAL (probably the Gold) is a nice suggestion for a Valentine's Day gift from my wife, and I have four CMG Infinity Task Lights en route via UPS right this minute.

So, until I manage to acquire the EternaLight (which will be a model 2), what features about it make it most appealing? Which ones weren't all that impressive?

(I've already read, re-read, printed, and then re-re-read telephony's review on his site, so he only needs to chime in if there's something he'd like to emphasize or add, unless he just really feels like it.)

Impatiently waiting for more toy-- er, research tools
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-- to arrive in this holiday shipping slow-down,



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Kris Cox
 
My comments on the settings:

1) timer, is cool because I can turn it on and just let it sit without worring about turning it off.

2) Dimmer, this can be real handy as I found out during a power outage, I didn't need it on full, but enough not to run into the table it was on.

3-4) Flash - Strobe, two settings that vary only by the speed by which they blink, I wish they could be slowed down even more, not much range of adjustment

5) Dazzle, yep it's a cool pattern, but people look at you weird when you say, "Hey look at this, isn't it cool?". So you end up sitting in a chair staring at it yourself. Maybe this could lead to altered states of consciouness?

6) SOS - Theoretically cool, but I don't or wouldn't intend for that setting to attract enough attention in an emergency.

7) Momentary, again pretty much of theoretical usefulness. They put a morse code guide on the top that's two small to read without a 2X magnafier. COuld be cool for kids though, I used to live about .25 miles from a friends house. We could of used morse code to communicate, but we didn't.

IMO, if they improved the brightness significantly, cut the less usefull feautures, lowered the price a bit, it
would be much better.

But then even the dogs don't listen to me,
Dave
 
Wow!

Yesterday, I received a package from a certain somebody on this board, containing not only the EternaLight model 2 (with paperwork) we'd discussed, but also the batteries, so I could play with it immediately! Thank you, thank you!

Even after seeing the pix and reading the dimensions, it's smaller than I'd expected; it really _is_ the size of a pager.

I'm still playing with it (even now, while I'm at work{!!!!}), getting used to the different modes. The strobe mode appears to have somewhere around 20 settings, and the flasher mode about a dozen; does this sound right?

It definitely throws more light than my white CMG Infinity (gee, four LEDs vs. one, and three AAs vs. one... what a surprise!), but since it's a Model 2, I don't want to take it outside and risk getting it wet.

Questions for the board:
Has anyone determined a handy way to attach a wrist lanyard to this thing?
Should I order the belt pouch from Technology Associates, or go buy a pager pouch from just anybody?
How can I keep from accidentally turning this on while it's in a pocket? How about when it's in that pouch I may get for it?
 
hey Cyclo;
this place sells a pocket for the Turbospyder which may be about the same dimensions: http://www.lighthings.com
have you checked out the ten LED Turbospyder?
is very bright.
 
I still haven't heard any hints on how to keep from turning my light on while it's in my pocket (or in the pouch I might get for it).

Can anyone tell me a practical use for the "Timer" mode? I suppose I could set it on the sink in the morning while I take my shower, and when the light's gone, I should be turning off the water, too, but that's about it. Maybe I could use it for reading in the "library" (a.k.a. "Throne Room) and thereby make sure I don't continue reading until my legs go numb. Has anyone else found any other practical uses?

The "Strobe" mode has been quite illuminating (if you'll pardon the pun) for watching streams of... uh, liquid... pass into a bowl, and for watching the ceiling fans. Any other ideas?

Having fun with my new post-Christmas toy,
Kris
 
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