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Sold/Expired Feeler: Fully potted & heatsinked 1.4A XP-G R5 P60 Dropin ~ 445 Lumens

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Sales thread here:
http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=261801

Getting a feeler for these. I'm making a couple locally for some fellow EMS workers, and want to gauge interest here.
Price would be $45 shipped, avail possibly end of this month.

Features:

- P60 Dropin
- Solid copper Cu110 slug thermally attached to base
- Reflector is thermally bonded to dropin base
- Electronics and emitter leads are fully potted with thermally conductive compound
- Inner spring is epoxy bonded to driver board
- Powering an XP-G R5 emitter by a 1.4A, Single stage 7135 board
- 6V max input, runs most efficiently with 1x Li-ion (2x123 can be used with an increase in heat)
- .45" wide 8mil copper strip included for maximum heat transfer from dropin to host body.



At 1.4A the R5 should net around ~445 emitter lumens.
MrGman and bigchelis confirmed the R4 variant had 306 OTF lumens & 287 lumens after 3 mins!
R5's should net ~320 OTF.
http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=229135


I currently have a module built utilizing an R4 (~420 lumens @ 1.4A), but future builds will be using an R5 emitter.
Doing some simple runtime tests using a multimeter I came up with the following (May vary with LED Vf & battery):
Tailcap draw on a fresh Trustfire 2400mah 18650 is 1.39A

:05 min - 4.12v - 1.35A
:10 min - 4.07v - 1.36A
:15 min - 4.04v - 1.36A
:25 min - 3.96v - 1.37A
:35 min - 3.89v - 1.37A
:45 min - 3.82v - 1.37A
:55 min - 3.78v - 1.32A
:65 min - 3.75v - 1.26A
:75 min - 3.72v - 1.26A
:85 min - 3.70v - 1.22A
:95 min - 3.64v - 1.20A


At this point I ran out of time, but the light was still running strong. I'd estimate the runtime to be a little under 2hrs with an 18650.
Although the 7135 board runs better with an 18650, 2x123 can be used with an increase in heat. I wouldn't run the dropin with 2x123 for extended amounts of time; in my testing the 123 cells were quite warm after 15min runs. With an 18650, the light gets warm in the hand after a while but not blazing hot. I would not recommend running this in anything less than a full metal bodied flashlight.

Slug size comparison:

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Completed module:

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Initial tailcap draw:

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Beamshots:

Left: Nitecore Extreme Q5, Right: XP-G R4 Dropin, Solarforce L2 host

10ft away from wall:

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12" from wall
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The dropin is a mix between throw and flood, testing outside I found that the dropin throws a bit further with a brighter hotspot than the Nitecore & lit up a much wider area. You can see in the beamshots how much area it lights up. I'll try to get some outdoor beamshots later.

So, any interest?
 
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Currently I can't seem to find any good 1.4a 3mode boards, I might offer it if I come across one though.
 
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Im definitely interested. Looks like it is well regulated. How many out the front lumens? If it is 300 or above, I want one.
 
Assuming 20-25% losses, it theoretically comes out to be 333-365 OTF.. I'm going to PM MrGman and see if he can test one of the dropins.
 
Assuming 20-25% losses, it theoretically comes out to be 333-365 OTF.. I'm going to PM MrGman and see if he can test one of the dropins.


I would be in for one of those for sure, but 300 confirmed OTF might be possible for how long will those lumens stay above 300 would be interesting. I say 300 OTF for more than 2 minutes will be the challenge with 1.4A😗
 
This is true, not counting heat losses it will be slightly lower. Thrunite's XPG dropin, rated at 345 lumens comes in at 260 lumens initially, 251 after 1 min.
I got a PM back from MrGman, he can't test it due to a move :|.
 
Go ahead and put me down for one. Quick question. How do you think this drop in wold perform with a single AW18500 cell? Im thinking about a fivemega single 18500 body host for this drop in unless it want be able to run regulated at full power.
 
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Depending on your timeframe and runtimes... I am tentatively in for one

Q: it will run an 18650 cell, right?


The 1.4A driver he uses is rated from 3V~6V, but runs at its best at 4.2v. So, yes 1 18650 is ideal. For emergencies 2 cr123 primaries can be used for short
periods.


EDIT: I just ran my E1b bezel which has this driver and with one AW 17670 I get 1.43A at the tail. With 2 primaries I get 1.34A at the tail and it gets warm just by me testing the current.

I have these drivers in several of my lights and I reduce the current myself simply by using laptop cells vs. IMR cells or 1.1A vs. 1.43A respectively.

bigC
 
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