geek4christ
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Oh wow, very useful review. Thanks!
Fenix E01 Comparison Review
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VF1Jskull1
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i had put up a preorder for 2 olives but changed my mind and had to cancel it to reorder a purple one for the wife and a black one for myself... plus i only used the 5% discount for the 2 olives and when i reodered to black/purple combo, i used 8% code so i saved a few more... not bad for such lights... my arc will still stay with my keys though...
dealgrabber2002
Flashlight Enthusiast
is it brighter using lithium or just extend runtime?
If you check out this_is_nascar's excellent My Quick Fenix E01 Review - he has several runtime graphs comparing alkaline with lithium AAA's (for 4 different E01's) and the levels look the same for each E01
- so the lithium seem only to give longer runtimes
In the thread My Quick Fenix E01 Review there was talk that 3 samples of Fenix E01 were not as bright as the Infinity Ultra and Dorcy 1AAA.
This peaked my interest as I have 2x CMG Ultra-G, and a collection of Dorcy 1AAA's - so I got hold of another Fenix E01 courtesy of 4sevens.
seems pretty obvious that the Fenix E01 is brighter than the CMG Ultra-G (and this is my marginally brighter one)
Just to be sure I did not receive an extra bright one - I also repeated comparisons with the Fenix E0 and Arc-AAA (~2003) as control with this second Fenix E01
these look about the same relatively as ones I took for 4sevens' own personal Fenix E01 (there is a slight characteristic difference - see later)
Compared to Dorcy 1AAA (gen 2 - the last reflectored version)
again it's pretty obvious that the E01 is brighter than the Dorcy 1AAA
This is not surprising since the Fenix E01 is some 5 years newer using the Nichia GS, and none of the comparison light have anything better than the CS (Fenix E0)
How about side emission and position of the LED?
this shows that the LED is more forward but still recessed enough to just prevent the side-spikes that can be seen on the Arc-AAA and CMG Ultra-G.
Similarly for the Dorcy 1AAA (gen 2)
This peaked my interest as I have 2x CMG Ultra-G, and a collection of Dorcy 1AAA's - so I got hold of another Fenix E01 courtesy of 4sevens.
seems pretty obvious that the Fenix E01 is brighter than the CMG Ultra-G (and this is my marginally brighter one)
Just to be sure I did not receive an extra bright one - I also repeated comparisons with the Fenix E0 and Arc-AAA (~2003) as control with this second Fenix E01
these look about the same relatively as ones I took for 4sevens' own personal Fenix E01 (there is a slight characteristic difference - see later)
Compared to Dorcy 1AAA (gen 2 - the last reflectored version)
again it's pretty obvious that the E01 is brighter than the Dorcy 1AAA
This is not surprising since the Fenix E01 is some 5 years newer using the Nichia GS, and none of the comparison light have anything better than the CS (Fenix E0)
How about side emission and position of the LED?
this shows that the LED is more forward but still recessed enough to just prevent the side-spikes that can be seen on the Arc-AAA and CMG Ultra-G.
Similarly for the Dorcy 1AAA (gen 2)
when is an olive - Olive 
?
The sample I got from 4sevens of Fenix-Store was "olive" - but it kind of looks more grey with a slight hint of green -
it cetainly doesn't look so obviously olive as the L1D-Q5 or the L0D-Q4.......
I actually like this color (like a darker natural), over the truer olive -
are others like this E01, or closer to the L1D-Q5 and L0D-Q4?
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The sample I got from 4sevens of Fenix-Store was "olive" - but it kind of looks more grey with a slight hint of green -
it cetainly doesn't look so obviously olive as the L1D-Q5 or the L0D-Q4.......
I actually like this color (like a darker natural), over the truer olive -
are others like this E01, or closer to the L1D-Q5 and L0D-Q4?
My EO1 is a lot less OD and a lot more light cypress - or Ranger Green, compared to the G10 on a SnG. It's just fine, not really dark if you're expecting that. I would certainly fit in with anything ACU. I have my share of issue OD stuff from over the years, their certainly is a wide range of shades, just like real olives.
If you drop your pocket light a lot despite the knurling, maybe red or orange would be better. At least there are choices.
If you drop your pocket light a lot despite the knurling, maybe red or orange would be better. At least there are choices.
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Smile
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Beautiful colors and good lights.My understanding is that Type III (Hard) Anodizing (or HA) are supposed to be the same.
from the Wikipedia on Anodizing -
" The most widely used anodizing specification, MIL-A-8625, defines three types of aluminium anodization. Type I is Chromic Acid Anodization, Type II is Sulfuric Acid Anodization and Type III is sulfuric acid hardcoat anodization. Other anodizing specifications include MIL-A-63576, AMS 2469, AMS 2470, AMS 2471, AMS 2472, AMS 2482, ASTM B580, ASTM D3933, ISO 10074 and BS 5599. AMS 2468 is obsolete. None of these specifications define a detailed process or chemistry, but rather a set of tests and quality assurance measures which the anodized product must meet. BS 1615 provides guidance in the selection of alloys for anodizing. For British defence work, a detailed chromic and sulfuric anodizing processes are described by DEF STAN 03-24/3 and DEF STAN 03-25/3 respectively. "
From this one might assume that to cut corners the anodizing coat might be thinner - but it is taken care of in the specs -
" Sulfuric acid is the most widely used solution to produce anodized coating. Coatings of moderate thickness 1.8 μm to 25 μm (0.00007" to 0.001")[7] are known as Type II, as named by MIL-A-8625, while coatings thicker than 25 μm (0.001") are known as Type III, hardcoat, or engineered anodizing. "
BTW - the original SureFires like the famous 6P and now legendary 9P were only Type II anodized and NOT HA (III) - in fact they still are only Type II -
ref: SureFire 6P Original
" Rugged aerospace-grade aluminum body, Type II anodized in glossy black "
SureFire 9P Original
" Rugged aerospace-grade aluminum body, Type II anodized in glossy black "
TONY M
Flashlight Enthusiast
There have been a few reports of the E01's black Anodizing not being up to the usual standard (wearing off before it should). Mine has been OK so far.
It may not be as it seems.
Black is probably the color that contrasts/shows wear the most against bare aluminum, a grey or neutral would probably not show as much or even go unnoticed.
There has been a lot of discussion about hard anodizing (type III) - years ago the claim was that the HA (III) of the ArcAAA was better than the CMG Infinity Ultra-G - but we're not comparing apples with apples - the ArcAAA was dark grey and it has knurling/checkering over most of its body so would really only wear at the tips of the checkering - leaving most of the anodizing in the grooves untouched, and grey contrasts less with bare aluminum. Whereas the Ultra-G was in a very dark green which would show up any bare alumium, plus it was plain over most of it body again more easily scratched and show it.....
In case there were doubts that the Ultra-G was somehow sub-par - it had a military NSN number so was up to the MIL spec for government issue on hard anodizing (III).
Jarl
Flashlight Enthusiast
The anodizing on my E01 is poor- worse than on my E0, which didn't have a great rep. to start with. However, this may have something to do with the knurling as it's not wearing on the flat surfaces. For reference, this is the gold colour.
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You're in the UK and fortunately are protected by UK Trading Standards - if you really think the E01's anodizing is sub-par and does not live up to the claim for Hard Anodizing (Type III)
couldn't you return it to your vendor for resitiution?
brightnorm
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...."also the E01 will tail-stand for candle mode use....
How can it tailstand with that protruding lug? I ordered one to compare with my EO's.
Brightnorm
I received my black HA E01 yesterday and it's even smaller than i originaly thought, great little light specially for the price, i only have two complaints, first of all the colour of the led, which was as expected very blue and second the beam pattern, i wish it was a bit more on the flood side.
And without realizing it, i actually have combos now
Spyderco Native III & Fenix P2D
Spyderco Dragonfly & Fenix E01
Benchmade Menchmite 3100 & Draco
And without realizing it, i actually have combos now
Spyderco Native III & Fenix P2D
Spyderco Dragonfly & Fenix E01
Benchmade Menchmite 3100 & Draco
victor01
Newly Enlightened
The 3 black Fenix E01s I ordered from fenix-store have arrived, 2 to be given as gift and I'll keep 1 for myself. This is what I have found.
Pro
1. For less than 15 dollars (CPF8 coupon) nothing could beat this.
Con
1. Seem to be a bit large. I compare it to my other aaa size light, the Liteflux LF2 Cree and they're about exactly the same diameter, with the LF2 just a wee bit longer. Given more flexibility and a lot more brightness of the LF2, I don't see I'll be replacing it with the E01 too soon.
2. The purple tint. I'm uncertain what kind of impression the recepient of these light would get, though in casual usage that couldn't be much of an issue, as far as everyday illumination is concerned. But the tint is always there. Oval beam profile.
3. On my samples, all 3 E01s do not have any lublicant. The o-rings and the threads came completly dry. Thanks to the grease included with the LF2. Now they're smooth again.
My conclusion
For 15 dollars, you'll get a long running light using common aaa batery, but don't expect too much.
Pro
1. For less than 15 dollars (CPF8 coupon) nothing could beat this.
Con
1. Seem to be a bit large. I compare it to my other aaa size light, the Liteflux LF2 Cree and they're about exactly the same diameter, with the LF2 just a wee bit longer. Given more flexibility and a lot more brightness of the LF2, I don't see I'll be replacing it with the E01 too soon.
2. The purple tint. I'm uncertain what kind of impression the recepient of these light would get, though in casual usage that couldn't be much of an issue, as far as everyday illumination is concerned. But the tint is always there. Oval beam profile.
3. On my samples, all 3 E01s do not have any lublicant. The o-rings and the threads came completly dry. Thanks to the grease included with the LF2. Now they're smooth again.
My conclusion
For 15 dollars, you'll get a long running light using common aaa batery, but don't expect too much.
