Fenix L1D w/ L2D Q5 Head or Nitecore D10 R2 poll

[CaNo]

lovecpf,Nitecore is the best!

Ima put this quote to the test!

Its official... my Nitecore and clip is coming in the mail today! WOO HOO!!! i just didnt buy any flashlight lube... hope i wont need it for a while! lol 😗

 

[CaNo]

I just received the Nitecore D10, and it feels like a very solid light. Compared to the Fenix L1D, the body feels more durable. The beams are practically the same if you compare them side by side, but the difference I found was the white wall bounce. The nitecore had a brighter bounce and covered more area. Of course i suspected that since the lumens are higher in the Nitecore by I believe 25 lumens? But the difference is not enough to wow anyone.

I am one of those people that like the strobe and can see myself missing that function with the D10. (Just randomly strobing people at work passes time by lol :thumbsup🙂

Ive always been the guy who liked power in his lights. Whether it is brightness or throw, so the D10 takes it in that department... by a hair. With that being said... I do not ever feel the need to have an extremely low "low". I was fine with the fenix's low, but now that I have the D10, Im going to make an effort to see the benefits of using the low function while reading material at night and see if it makes a difference.

The one thing about the D10 that i do like though is that i can switch from max to low in about a second. As with the Fenix, you had to twist to switch between modes. (Im the person that always leaves it on max and or turbo, so with the fenix it was an inconvenience to use both hands and twist to get the low function, and twist it back for future use to the turbo mode)

The one thing about the D10 that I quickly noticed is that it gets very hot when left on the high mode longer than 15 seconds.... I know with the Fenix it is not recommended to leave turbo on for longer than 10 mins to avoid bulb damage (in room temperature). Is there negative side effects for leaving the Nitecore on for long periods of time? Any risk of bulb damage? Although i am aware that using anything on max will reduce its lifetime, but im referring to overheating, bulb burning out etc....

 

[CaNo]

Ok I love both of these lights, but truthfully I am quite disappointed. Disappointed in the throw. I ordered these lights without putting this in consideration. 😳

My question is... since now that I have these two great lights... how can I improve the throw on these bad boys? Is there a way of doing this without voiding the warranty? Sadly the Maglite 2D I had purchased is my best thrower.... for half the price! lol (and yes i do understand the larger the reflector the further the throw as well). Any tips would be appreciated!

 

[Egsise]

From a single AA NiMH that is what you get.
Why not 14500 Li-Ion or CR123 for better throw?

 

[CaNo]

 

[Egsise]

P2D 1x123 Black Spare Body and Tailcap $23.50

ONLY compatible with the L1D CE, L2D CE and P2D

 

[CaNo]

P2D 1x123 Black Spare Body and Tailcap $23.50

hmmm... will it work with the Q5 head? And how much more significant is the throw compared to the L1D? Do you think the P2D will be able to handle 3.7 rechargable cr123's? It uses the smooth reflector correct? Correct me if im wrong...

 

[Marduke]

hmmm... will it work with the Q5 head? And how much more significant is the throw compared to the L1D? Do you think the P2D will be able to handle 3.7 rechargable cr123's? It uses the smooth reflector correct? Correct me if im wrong...

You'd be using the head you own....

The L1D, L2D, and P2D heads are identical.

That head is not designed for Li-Ion cells. It will work, but only in direct drive, and you'll loose the low modes.

 

[DHart]

Ok I love both of these lights, but truthfully I am quite disappointed. Disappointed in the throw. I ordered these lights without putting this in consideration.

Be disappointed in your selection process, not in the lights. As my dad used to tell me... "act in haste and you will repent in leisure". The D10 on 14500 does quite a respectable job in throwing, given the size of the light, though that is not what it is optimized for nor does it compete with lights designed to be "throwers".

For what purpose did you buy the lights? You need to do more homework before you leap. Slow down a bit. Study the forums. Use the search tool!!!

Ya gotta remember that you can't have everything in one light. The beam on the D10 makes it a magnificent general purpose light. If it were a thrower, it wouldn't be nearly as good for general use.

Moving on now, if you want a good thrower, buy another light. You're not going to get every function/application covered with one light. You want great throw, you're going to have to give up some general use applicability.

JetBeam lights are generally quite throwy across the line. Just use the search function for throwers and you can learn all you need to know about throwers.

Do you have a 6P/clone yet? If not, then you should pick up a Solarforce L2 with R2 lamp assembly. You can buy the entire light, holster/case, rechargeable 18650 cell for $25... including shipping. That's pretty much a no brainer for a flashlight guy. Add a Malkoff M60 to it if you want one of the best lamps available.

If you want more throw than that, then step up to the plate of dedicated throwers.

 

[CaNo]

You'd be using the head you own....

The L1D, L2D, and P2D heads are identical.

That head is not designed for Li-Ion cells. It will work, but only in direct drive, and you'll loose the low modes.

Will the cells explode due to the higher power output?

 

[CaNo]

Be disappointed in your selection process, not in the lights. As my dad used to tell me... "act in haste and you will repent in leisure". The D10 on 14500 does quite a respectable job in throwing, given the size of the light, though that is not what it is optimized for nor does it compete with lights designed to be "throwers".

You are correct. I should have phrased my post differently. I love the D10 and the L1D and nothing is wrong with its build or output quality etc. It does what it is built for.

Now I am going through the throw phase, and receiving the D10 I had higher hopes for throw without putting in consideration the stats here at CPF. Although I have to say, the D10 lights up more street signs than the L1D... lol Most likely due to its yellower tint... as compared to the L1D's more purple tint.

I am currently trying to convert my Maglite into an ROP. But materials are quite costly. I am still looking for a good deal for the 6xAA to 2D holder or 2 3xAA to 1D holder, and aluminum smooth reflector... This should satisfy my throwing hunger in the meantime without giving in the temptation of buying a HID light.

 

[CaNo]

But going back to the topic, someone suggested to get the p2d body.... how much more throw will this p2d give me compared to the one the L1D Q5 already gives? I assume the p2d uses a smooth reflector?

As or the nitecore D10... i guess i will have to suck it up with the OP reflector or risk voiding the warranty and find an aftermarket smooth reflector i take it? :shakehead

 

[Marduke]

But going back to the topic, someone suggested to get the p2d body.... how much more throw will this p2d give me compared to the one the L1D Q5 already gives? I assume the p2d uses a smooth reflector?

Did you read above? You would use the SAME HEAD YOU HAVE NOW.

The L1D, P2D, L2D heads are IDENTICAL.

 

[CaNo]

Did you read above? You would use the SAME HEAD YOU HAVE NOW.

Actually it is not above... but if i click over to page 3... i can find the post

Pardon my blond moment as i do not own a P2d head. :wave:

 

[DHart]

As or the nitecore D10... i guess i will have to suck it up with the OP reflector or risk voiding the warranty and find an aftermarket smooth reflector i take it? :shakehead

"Suck it up"? :shrug: If the D-10 (arguably one of the most successful and appreciated lights to come along in quite a while) is that much of a problem for meeting your primary need of throwing, just sell it to someone who appreciates it for what it is and will use it as designed. I wouldn't mess up a good thing, myself. The D-10 reflector gives you a gorgeous general use beam... I wouldn't want to trade it for anything else, myself. Going for a small, tight hot spot wouldn't do anything for you in general use. If I want to light up stuff in the far far distance, I just use a light suited to that. For everything else, I think the D10 and its native reflector are just right!

I guess you could use another light for your general use light and convert the D10 into more of a thrower. But why go through all that trouble. Use yur D10 for general use and buy a JetBeam of one version or another for more throwy uses.

 

[Marduke]

Actually it is not above... but if i click over to page 2... i can find the post

Pardon my blond moment as i do not own a P2d head. :wave:

Check post 88.

And yes, you do own a P2D head. You own the L1D, right? Same head...

 

[CaNo]

"Suck it up"? If it's that much of a problem for meeting your primary need of throwing, just sell it to someone who appreciates it for what it is. The D-10 reflector gives you a gorgeous general use beam... I wouldn't want to trade it for anything else, myself. Going for a small, tight hot spot wouldn't do anything for you in general use. If I want to light up stuff in the far far distance, I just use a light suited to that. For everything else, I think the D10 and its native reflector are just right!

Yes for general purpose, the D10 is superb. And no i will not be trading my D10! I love this light! Ill jus have to carry a separate thrower to satisfy my throwing needs 😗

 

[CaNo]

Check post 88.

And yes, you do own a P2D head. You own the L1D, right? Same head...

Your slick! you managed to catch the quote a few seconds before i changed it to page "3" haha you got me there :naughty:

And no i do not own a P2D head. I own a L2D Q5 head ty very much! :twothumbs

I bought the L1D body separate.

 

[Marduke]

Your slick! you managed to catch the quote a few seconds before i changed it to page "3" haha you got me there :naughty:

And no i do not own a P2D head. I own a L2D Q5 head ty very much! :twothumbs

I'll say this one last time. The L2D, P2D, and L1D heads are IDENTICAL. There is absolutely NO difference.

 

[CaNo]

There is absolutely NO difference.

I beg to differ. I see a difference right here... notice how it doesn't say L1D or P2D... it says L2D Premium Q5.... the lettering is different...:goodjob: