Finally stepped up to a large Leatherman

KevinL

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I've owned a couple of Micras and a SAK in the past but nothing really prepares you for the solid engineering of something like the full size Wave that I got today. It's a slightly older Wave, not the 2004 edition, but it's LNIB and it looks great.

The moment I took it out of its packaging I felt that it was a real SOLID chunk of metal, you don't even need to open it to get the feeling you are handling a serious tool, not some wimpy little thing.

Popping it open, the pliers look more rugged than the ones on my workbench. They look like I could put them through hell and they'd come back looking better than I would. The rounded handles are a really nice touch, they enable you to put full force on the tool without shredding your own hands. This was one issue I discovered with the Micra, when using the scissors, the edges of the tool handles would bite into my fingers slightly - didn't hurt me but did prevent me from using more force on it.

The screwdrivers are everything I need. Dedicated screwdrivers with long reach - the thing I didn't like about the SAK is that some of the smaller screwdrivers are really the tips of other tools, making them too fat to reach into small corners. The Wave has long screwdriver bits. This is particularly useful when dealing with screw-down terminals that are sometimes used to connect AC lines, or shrouded 48VDC telco power connectors for DC powered networking equipment, both of which have recessed screws because the screws are live. Plus, you can open the tool, extend the screwdriver and fold the tool up so it handles just like a traditional screwdriver with a fat handle. My current SAK Tinker's Philips bit takes the place of the corkscrew, but operates like a corkscrew - you have the large handle running perpendicular to the Philips bit. Lots of torque yeah, but not the most convenient configuration.

I'm no knife expert (in fact I'm a complete knife n00b) but I like the locking system of the Wave a LOT better than the SAK. The SAK requires a lot more work to open and push into place, because of the spring loaded lock. The Wave has a push-to-unlock system which requires much less effort to open the knife, and less chance that you'll chop off a finger trying to close it.

A previous advantage the SAK had over tools like the Micra is that to access the Micra's knife, you have to open up the whole tool, whereas the SAK has it on the outside (it has no 'inside' like the Leatherman tools do).. well, the Wave now has the 4 blades on the outside for fastest access.

The scissors are very impressive as well. Extend them fully to activate the spring. At first, I was hunting for the spring, until I snapped it into place. Very impressive, to put a spring loaded system into such a small amount of space!

The only thing about it is that it's BIG. It's three times heavier than the SAK Tinker. I don't expect to be EDC'ing the Wave, but when serious work needs to be done.. that's what it's for. It'll probably end up in the work bag.


My benchmark for new technology to impress me is pretty high. Specifically, for it to get my highest approval, it must evoke the "Why didn't I have this earlier? It could have saved my rear/made my job easier/saved me a lot of pain" feeling.

Well now I'm going WHY THE $#*() didn't I know about the Wave in 1997?! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ohgeez.gif I could have used it for hundreds and hundreds of times in the years since then, it would have saved me hundreds of times where I have had to beg/borrow/steal a screwdriver, it would have replaced an entire bag of tools at one go when I was on the move, never forget a tool again (show up at a site and realize you are short of pliers at the worst possible moment) and screw-down terminals wouldn't have made my life as difficult as they have had.. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/banghead.gif why is it we only discover the good stuff so much later? Guess I was young and stupid once.. older now, still stupid, but at least I'm better equipped now!

Well, at least I know there won't be a next time I'm caught short... and even though the Wave has only been here a few hours, I forsee a Charge Ti in my future.. and not too distant future at that /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

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(No, I do not have a U2-Winelight, I think the black background is throwing the camera off a little. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif)

I think I've gotten my tools figured out. For the 'small' set of tools, the E1e+KL1 and the Leatherman Squirt (coming soon), for the 'big' set of tools, the U2 and the Wave for the moments where compromise is not an option. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbsup.gif

Having discovered these, I can't figure out how anybody can live without them. Highly recommended.

Also, /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thanks.gif to Marty W. for getting me a great deal on the Wave. Can't believe nobody grabbed it before I did!
 
Good choice KevinL. I used to EDC the Wave (I think I have the same version as yours.. there were some minor upgrades over the years IIRC), and I never noticed the weight on my hip unless I bumped into a door by accident /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

If you think the Wave is hefty, try EDC-ing an XTi with the extra tool bits /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif Those titanium handle laminates and full locking mechanisms make all the difference. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbsup.gif
 
I bought the locking blade model a few years ago for 70 bucks at walmart. Man, what a tool compared to the dollar store ones I use to buy. Man, solid feeling and heavy. THe knife can cut paper in mid air and yourself without causing any pain. I was very impressed.
 
Congrats on the new Wave. I also the same Wave (the old one). I really like the smooth edges also, allows alot more force to be exerted. I usually edc with the nylon pouch on by belt...its pretty slim so it doesn't cause too much trouble. If you want even more capability, you could get the tool set for it. i got one for about $12 at a local store. they are probably clearing them out since the new wave and the xti use the new bit system.
 
I bought/still have an original Wave when they first came out. (~$100) It has resided in my bugout/camping bag since. I would be major impared without that sucker! I now own 2 and the 2nd is in my truck's glovebox- replaced a Leatherman original. Damn things have saved my butt on numerous occasions! I have EDC'd a micra for a few years and am eagerly awaiting a Squirt EL from Marty! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Larry
 
mokona2: Yeah at first it was a little heavy, but I got used to it after carrying it for just a couple of hours, now I don't notice it at all. I think it will replace the SAK. It's nice to have everything at your disposal.. I love it /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

The thing that destroys doorframes and stray cupboards is the U2 sitting in the right thigh pocket of my cargo pants. The good thing is that so far U2 vs everything else: U2 wins /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif (phew!)

cobb: I tried opening an envelope with that thing.... it's effortless. It's scary sharp. Wish I had the sharpening skills to keep it that way. Can't wait to see what 154CM on the Charge Ti will do for me.

Lightbringer: Cool.. that's if I don't go nuts and decide to step up to the Ti/XTi /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

tvodrd: What year was that, '97? I would have paid $100.. well, actually, in 1997 I was a cheapskate. I might not have agreed back then. But of course I wish I knew then what I do now, instead of having to find out in the years since then..

Life is too short for crap tools. If I'm buying, I'm buying the best that I can get or as close to the best as possible. Might get the Squirt P4 in blue for keyring carry too. The pliers look a little more interesting than the wire strippers of the EL.
 
i keep a blue squirt s4 on my key chain now....i really like having scissors that quick and easy when i need them. the swiss tool looks interesting...can't wait 2 see some review for them
 
My new Gerber has lasted longer than my first leatherman. It disappered under suspicious circumstances. Since then I've bought cheap one that have been amazingly good for the very occasional job.
But you guys made me think about a new one (Please send cash)
I decided on a lower cost one and then saw the cable cutters and jigsaw blade on the Gerber. So I bought one with an additional pliers head from Cases4Less, they have very good prices.

A couple of nights ago I got a chance to try the cutters and they work like a charm. They take very little more effort to cut through a battery cable than the big cutter I used to have.

Boy is that guy going to be pissed. ( /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif
(Actually it was on a car fire and that's a normal thing to do.)
 
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<snip> the swiss tool looks interesting...can't wait 2 see some review for them

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Check out Doug Ritter's review here

I have both the Swisstool and the Leatherman SuperTool. Both same size, though the Swisstool is a little heavier. I find the Swisstool a lot easier to use as all the tools are lockable, and accessible without having to open the handle. The new Swisstool Spirit is 30% lighter, is more ergonomic but I've yet to check it out as it's not yet available here in Malaysia
 
Swiss tool? Is that like a swiss knife? I have a few of those that I hope are knock offs as they are just poorly made.
 
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cobb said:
Swiss tool? Is that like a swiss knife?

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Swisstools are Leatherman-type multitools by Victorinox, the maker of Swiss Army Knives. The original Swisstools are very solidly built - I have a Swisstool RS that has been indispensible. The new Swisstool Spirit is lighter and (slightly) smaller.

Check out the links shown by previous posters for more info.
 
Kevin - get a Spyderco Sharpmaker to keep your knife sharp. Anyone can use it and get good results. I've gotten so good at it, I can even chew gum while I'm sharpening a blade.
 
Comparing the Wave and Swisstool, I take the Wave anyday, coz size and weight matters to me.
 
I've been looking at Leatherman's site, and I don't really understand the differences between the (new) Wave and the XTi. Could somebody who has used both enlighten me as to what the XTi's advantage is?

I see that more bits come standard with the XTi, and it has a higher grade of steel for the knife. Is there something else I'm missing?
 
The current Wave is virtually identical to the XTi. I believe it's only missing the titanium laminated handles and the price markup. The Wave is a bit easier to EDC, but the added heft of the titanium makes for a sturdier tool when you have to apply pressure on some stubborn screws or wire.
 
SJACKAL: Nice Wave! I saw your pictures in the other thread. Minor blade differences between yours and mine, yours seems to have a flat edge all along the top, mine is beveled nearer the point.

weber: I think of the current generation Wave as the Ti/XTi "lite", almost all the features except for a few screwdriver bits, with less cost. It's great to keep as a spare or put in a BOB/glovebox/infrequently used location, or for those who don't feel that they want to pay extra for the Ti/XTi.

Until I get my Ti, the Wave will remain an EDC. Oh yeah, and since I have a slightly older-generation Wave, it's lighter - 225 grams according to their "Retired Tools" page vs the current-generation Wave, which is heavier.
 
This is more of a generalized comment, but these new multi-tools are NICE!

I had a first gen Gerber, which was ok...but it was flimsy, the tools clumped, and it pinched your hand when using the pliers.

After reading these threads with interest, I got a Swisstool (wife gave it to me as a gift for my B-day).

What a difference!
The only negatives I have heard are that it is heavy (I don't EDC it), the plated screwdrivers may slip (haven't had this problem), and some find the pliers too small (not a problem for me).

The positives?
It is VERY sturdy, everything locks, NO clumping, reasonable price (~$60), lots of tools.

I would think the Leathermen would be just as nice.
Good to see the companies developing these tools--they are SO handy while doing things around the house.

Everybody should have 1 nice multitool.

Bob
 
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