my brother had a surefire that bit the bullet somehow, don't recall the model, something non-LED, and he traded it in (warranty freebie) at the place he bought it for a G2L. he went for LED because i have been raving about my 1 watt luxeons from sportsmansguide (maybe built by nuwai,i think) and talked him into one.anyway, he LOVES it !! in fact, it's his never ending babling about his "bad-*** new LED surefire" that has me shopping for a monster thrower like a tiablo,just to put my baby brother in his place !!! but that hasn't kept me from ordering one myself from opticsplanet ( $54 shipped, but backordered). and then, as if this ain't enough, i ordered a 6Pl from batteryjunction that got here hours ago.it's just gotten dark enough to take outside and check out. best i can tell, these two are the best deals going from surefire. 80 lumens for 11-12 hours,for $55-85 shipped W/ extra batteries.........not much in the surefire line beats that.