Flashlight suggestions for river racing

Scooter734

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Hello -

Looking for flashlight suggestions for marathon canoe racing on a narrow, winding river in near total darkness (minus some help from mother nature or a fortuitous full moon). Here's what I'm looking for:


  • This will be hard-mounted to the bow of a canoe, so headlamps are out.
  • Simple operation is a must.
  • Size: Certainly lighter and smaller is better, but beam/output/runtime is critical, so larger lights are not out of the question.
  • No preference to emitter or battery type (see previous).
  • Do not need/want modal operation (simple is good!).
  • Barrel-mounted switch is preferred, as a custom paddle switch (no pun intended) will be made as the light will need to be turned off/on easily and often by the use of well, a canoe paddle. Cap-mounted switch is a possibility.
  • Would like 80-150 lumens (???) with usable light between 10-100 ft (min).
  • Runtime at full power must be at least 7-8 hrs.
  • Must be durable and waterproof (able to take a tree limb hit or a capsize).
  • Focusing ability a bonus, but will be fixed in place once it's dialed in.
  • Don't care about color or exotic materials.
  • Red filter capability is a bonus, not a necessity.
  • Under 50 bucks if at all possible.
Thanks for any advice!! 🙂
 
This is a pretty tall order for any flashlight. You will probably have to end up getting something fairly sizeable because 80-150 lumens for 7-8 hours is nothing to sneeze at. Also you have to take into consideration overheating (particularly for smaller lights) that might occur particularly if it is run at the upper end of that brightness range.

I think you might have to end up getting a LED spotlight if you can't find anything else. The first few lights that came to my mind were Streamlights - the E-Spot Firebox and the LED Survivor. Unfortunately these lights are ... a bit of the price range you specified.

The comforting thing about getting a light from a reputable company like SL though is knowing roughly what kind of output/runtime you will get. They have a fact sheet for all their lights which shows a output-over-runtime graph so you know whether or not you're getting regulated runtime or not.
Just be aware that a lot of other companies will advertise their light putting out a lot of lumens for a long time. For example a company might claim that their light puts of 120 lumens for 10 hours but in reality that's the runtime for the light until it reaches 10% of its original output and only puts out 120 lumens for about 50 minutes.
Anyways good luck on your search.
 
Good info, thanks. For comparison, the light of choice over the years for this purpose has been a 2D or 3D Maglite. More than enough run time and plenty durable, but not the best output/beam...not to mention just plain heavy. The Rayovac SE4W3C has been suggested for its output, I'm just not sure how long that will last as you noted. Plus it would need help to be truly waterproof. That light would be what I'd consider on the heavy end on my spectrum. Anything lighter/smaller would be a plus...
 
Yeah, I'm thinking 7-8 hours at full power 80-150 lumens???

Hmmmmmmm...

If the under $50 prerequisite weren't a consideration, I would get a Surefire G3 with a Malkoff M61L and a pair of rechargeable 17500s... That should get you 150-175 lumens for more than 8 hours, would be bombproof, and would allow for any 1.25" bezel diameter red flip filter to be used... but the setup would cost you at least $100.
 
Fair enough...I'm willing to relax the price point a bit...and I'll even sacrifice the top-end output to a more realistic level. So could I get something in the 80 lumen range that'll get me 7 hrs or more? Preferably far below the 100 dollar area?
 
Thanks for those...some possibilities there. The JetBeam looks like it would fit the bill nicely, plus it should be a bit easier to mount up than some others. The two dive lights have their own pluses, just can't find a lot of info on their beams and performance.
 
I assume you've considered the new LED Mags? Better output, but still heavy unless you rig a Li or Li-ion battery pack. Same switch mods, though, so there's that...


Also dealextreme sku 14328 comes to mind -- a bit more output than you asked for, but with 3 18650 cells, it'll make your runtime requirement, and with 4, even more. No real focusability, but you can add diffuser film for a floodier beam. I'm pretty sure the Maglite filter kit will work, but red filters on white LEDs give very little light, due to the different spectrum generated. May need to add/replace some O-rings to get dependable waterproofing.
 
Thought I'd follow up on this (albeit a year later!) if only for information's sake...

I ended up with the JetBeam BC40 and it was the right choice for my use. Last year's race happened to fall on the night of a new moon with a some cloud cover. On a river, that translates to nearly pitch black once you get out in the sticks. If you follow race etiquette, you kill your bow light if you're following immediately behind another boat, as the shadows you cause and reflections off the carbon paddles can cause the lead boat a lot of problems seeing. It was dark enough that if we attempted to pull out and pass the boat ahead without our light already on, you could barely see ten feet once you left the comfort of their beam. At around ten miles an hour in a narrow, sometimes very shallow, twisting river, you don't want to plow into a stump or a rock in a carbon fiber canoe, especially when you don't see it coming.

The BC40 was awesome. We ran it low (130 lumens) for the duration and it was more than enough. In fact, I duct taped the bezel so it didn't get knocked into high mode by accident and kill our batteries. The race is such that you don't want to stop paddling to mess with batteries, assuming you could even see what you're doing or even reach the light without getting out of the boat first. It gave us plenty of throw to light up the next bend, illuminating the river and landscape for a good 75 yards or more in places. As it turned out, the aim was a little high, so we did not have the coverage immediately in front of the boat that we would've liked.

I mounted it to the bow with a couple of Quick Fist rubber clamps. True hard mounts are sketchy, as a hit from another boat or paddler might cause an issue you wouldn't want. The Quick Fists have just enough give to take some abuse, but firm enough to disallow any vibration. And when the morning comes and it's time to shed weight, the light comes out of the clamps easily.

Because the light needs to be powered on and off at any given time, it has to be done easily with the use of a quick hit from the paddle blade (but without so much force as to damage the carbon paddles). Most competitors who run mag lites or similar with [upward-facing] side buttons can fashion an oversized rocker switch, but with the tailcap switch of the BC40, it was a little trickier. For this I bent up a spring steel Coghlan's Table Cloth Clamp and hose-clamped it to the rear of the light so that the bent part of the Coghlan's clamp contacted the switch when I hit it from above. Simple and effective, however the steel deformed enough after repeated use that it would often take two or more hits to actuate the switch, which was a big bummer. I'll be working on a more reliable (and hopefully hands-free) mechanism for this year, maybe using a mechanical camera shutter release cable and a foot-actuated push-button of sorts. Pressure switches were a consideration, but I haven't yet found one that isn't momentary only.

Although the throw and beam width were great for what we were doing, there's a tradeoff in regards to aim where you have to sacrifice some close-in lighting to cover the distance. For this, many racers will use a smaller light, often a mini bike light or modified headlamp attached to the primary light, aimed downward just ahead of the bow. That light can remain on, as it doesn't need to be as bright, nor does it cast the severe shadows and glare that the primary does when running behind another canoe. I'm looking at the JetBeam BC10 or Fenix E11 as possibilities, with some headlamps as other options.

Thanks to everybody for their input and suggestions!
 
In retrospect, this use would work with a Klarus XT11 and a remote pressure switch. On 150 lumen medium, it has over 7 hours of run time, and it has a 10 lumen low you could use when dimming to avoid glaring out the boat in front's view, etc...

..and, the Klarus is the only light that has a remote pressure switch that can change the brightness/modes with the pressure switch, not just on/off. The REMOTE switch means no "Paddle Switch" is needed...its function can be reached more easily.

The floody beam of the XT11 is probably very useful for what you're doing, as aim becomes less important, and adjoining context, such as swirls and water texture, rocks, stumps, to the sides can be seen as well in the wider beam pattern. If you needed MORE light, on high, it pumps out 500-600 lumens depending on run time...and its rated to do that for over 2 hours if need be. Assuming that if needed to check out a distant feature, it would be a quick peak, and then back to lower brightness, to conserve the cell...this can be a nice added bonus.

With a true 3100 mAh 18650, 150 lumens for ~ 7+ hrs is easily doable, and if also used at 10 lumens for part of that, you could definitely use one cell for the entire race....its rated for over 290 HOURS at 10 lumens for example.

So, between the mode capable pressure switch and the available run times and output, that might prove to be your killer combo.

😀
 
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Xtar D06
Has a magnetic dimmer switch. Is water resistant to 100meters.
Almost an unlimited output adjustment
 
Thanks for those suggestions. Both light look like they could fit the bill from an output standpoint. The magnetic slide switch on the Xtar wouldn't work, as it really needs to be a tap on/tap off design...speed is of the essence. The light is mounted at a distance that it can't be reached by hand. The Klarus lamp looks like a good choice, but I'm not sure the mode cycling wouldn't become an issue, especially with the remote. Again, holding a press for more than a 1/4-second or so is too long (unless it was used as a foot switch maybe). Although occasionally switching to super bright mode would come in handy, realistically it's not a necessity. The possibility of accidentally getting into the wrong mode, etc outweighs the extra light.
 
What about simply having two lights with JUST on/off?

Both "on" would be high, one "on" would be low, etc.

The time to operate foot pedals and do multiple paddle stabs as you described your current procedures, seems clunkier over all that two pressure switched on/off set ups right next to each other. It SOUNDs like a single low intensity light would be ok all the time as a worst case senario..as it wouldn't blind anyone ahead (Plan C - always BE ahead...) 😉

...with a second stronger light that you'd operate the same way, on/off from a pressure switch.

The pressure switch makes it harder to screw up...no crazy reaches etc...and the time to REACH a tail cap switch or rube goldberg lever system, etc...with a paddle yet, will always be longer than the time to press a pressure switch itself.

Even if you "screw up" and leave the wee one on, it sounds like its ok...and maybe even preferable. So all you'd be doing in practice, is turning the brighter one on/off, which is what you already do.

You could even put a diffuser over the lens to make the beam even softer and floody/less glaring.

😀
 
Actually, leaving the smaller light on is the intention...especially if the aim is correct and with the addition of perhaps a filter, glare should not be an issue (the floodier light would be beneficial). The switch is really only intended for the primary light as an ON/OFF (no modes). The pressure switch possibility would be great, provided it's quick (less than a second), but it looks like the one mentioned requires a longer hold. The target time to toggle the light is equal to a single paddle stroke or less (approx. one second). Any longer and it might as well be two strokes (or more), as you get out of sync. The reason the light-mounted rocker switches are so effective is that the typical path of the paddle blade is within relative close proximity of where the light is mounted, so a quick tap on the way by (effectively sacrificing one stroke) is actually pretty efficient, considering the alternative.

I've been contemplating the foot switch so as to not sacrifice ANY strokes at all, not risking taking the hands/arms out of play to do do any monkeying around locating a remote switch, etc. We use foot braces in the boat, so configuring a push-button (or pressure) switch mounted in the brace (ala the old floor-mounted hi-beam car switches) seems reasonable. So the hunt for the small light goes on. Headlamps (for their floodiness and size) are a distinct possibility.
 
Pelican flashlights would do nicely, there's a 4aa model with a simple on off switch. I have the recoil style for fog and smoke. It's what the fireman use, up here
 

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