Folks that don't EDC flashlights.

IMA SOL MAN

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I always carry a light because of how many times I went, "oh poop, I need a light" when staring under the hood of a car. Doesnt matter if the sun is out or not, there are always dark spots that you cannot see something.
And you need a brighter light in the daylight, due to the contrast and pupils being constricted due to the bright ambient light.
 

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I've developed a "pat down" routine over the years to try and ensure I don't leave anything behind. Wallet, phone, keys, knife, light, etc etc. Do it in the same order every time.

And as far as flashlights for the average Joe, I bet the cell phone LED covers 99.9% of any situation requiring light that they might encounter.
Same thing I do. Always pat all four pockets of my pants to make sure they're correctly loaded – if a pocket is not lumpy, something ain't right! Saved me from going out without a credit card and basic documentation more times than I'm willing to admit.

I'm no muggle, but I have used my phone's flash when I need floody illumination. My EDC torches are on the throwy side, so the alternative is welcome. Pretty rare for that to happen, though.
And you need a brighter light in the daylight, due to the contrast and pupils being constricted due to the bright ambient light.
Not necessarily brighter, just more throwy. To fight contrast, candela are often more useful than raw lumens. Especially in dark tight nooks and alcoves, as a tighter beam prevents backsplash from the spot hitting the edges.
 

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Same thing I do. Always pat all four pockets of my pants to make sure they're correctly loaded – if a pocket is not lumpy, something ain't right! Saved me from going out without a credit card and basic documentation more times than I'm willing to admit.

I'm no muggle, but I have used my phone's flash when I need floody illumination. My EDC torches are on the throwy side, so the alternative is welcome. Pretty rare for that to happen, though.

Not necessarily brighter, just more throwy. To fight contrast, candela are often more useful than raw lumens. Especially in dark tight nooks and alcoves, as a tighter beam prevents backsplash from the spot hitting the edges.
I also do the pat down method.
front left pocket Gerber money clip utility knife
front right keys with EDC keychain light
rear left wallet
rear right phone.

The other day I went to the bank to open a new account.
While there, the manager asked if I had my phone. To my amazement, I DIDN'T !!!

I must have been really distracted when I left the house, that I didn't do the pat down.
And how did I not notice that the radio in the car remained silent? And make the connection that I didn't have my phone?
 
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I'm trying to think of an acceptable, politically correct answer that would be appropriate for use in this forum, but none come to mind:) I'll just say 'not the kind of person I want to hang out with'. I'm not an ex-Boy Scout, but, please....!

I think the phrase you are looking for is "get a life". Not to mention everyone I know EDCs a light. Usually it is Apple branded, sometimes Samsung, sometimes Google.
 

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There is nothing worse than someone asking me for help with their car and they point in the engine bay for the problem with a smart phone light. I go oh boy this is gonna be difficult.
 

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Those recently trendy, semi-stiff leather trays with the four pinched corners do come in very handy for emptying pockets at the end of the day.... and for putting everything back into those pockets the next day. I have one. But honestly, an old square plate (or a new one from The Dollar Store) works just as well. When the tray (or plate) is empty, you know you didn't forget any of your usual EDC items.
 

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Those recently trendy, semi-stiff leather trays with the four pinched corners do come in very handy for emptying pockets at the end of the day.... and for putting everything back into those pockets the next day. I have one. But honestly, an old square plate (or a new one from The Dollar Store) works just as well. When the tray (or plate) is empty, you know you didn't forget any of your usual EDC items.
Do you mean a tray like this?
This is near our front door. I typically empty my pockets as soon as I enter.
 

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I think the phrase you are looking for is "get a life". Not to mention everyone I know EDCs a light. Usually it is Apple branded, sometimes Samsung, sometimes Google.

Would they be amongst those in Society who struggle to keep their phone charged?



I believe there is an old adage warning against having one's eggs all in the same basket 🤔
 
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Would they be amongst those in Society who struggle to keep their phone charged?



I believe there is an old adage warning against having one's eggs all in one basket 🤔
And how many carry one of these?

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It's a $5.00 2600 mAh battery pack. Available at five below.
 

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everyone I know EDCs a light. Usually it is Apple branded, sometimes Samsung, sometimes Google.
Would they be amongst those in Society who struggle to keep their phone charged?


I believe there is an old adage warning against having one's eggs all in the same basket
We probably all know someone that's either begging for a charger and cable to top off their phone middle of the day or simply runs out of juice routinely.

But what percentage of our peers is that? I personally tend to end the day at >75% and that includes workdays at the office where I don't use the company wifi and still don't much ration usage. But I'm not always on my phone either so there's that.

And also how much power is someone going to need to run a flashlight in a contingency situation? A couple minutes' flashlight usage isn't going to be much relative to streaming nextflix over the cellular modem.

I'm a tad skeptical of Electron To Go's numbers since their business literally benefits from this very sort of anxiety.

And how many carry one of these?

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It's a $5.00 2600 mAh battery pack. Available at five below.
I sense that there's this weird low-level antipathy in some slices of society against many things preparedness-esque. I suspect some of this is snobbery - only blue collar people carry toolbelts and only the poors have lives unpredictable enough that they need to carry things outside of routine needs. And perhaps some of this is a subconscious sense of the tenuous nature of modernity that's unpleasant to consider so it's pushed away.

Before the era of glued-together phones I always bought a spare phone battery; nowadays I tend to have a full charging kit in my work backpack - charger, cables, powerbank. In both cases some people see this as somehow weird (as I'm neither a road warrior nor backpacking through the Andes) - some even after I've rescued them from a predicament of their own creation.
 

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We probably all know someone that's either begging for a charger and cable to top off their phone middle of the day or simply runs out of juice routinely.

But what percentage of our peers is that? I personally tend to end the day at >75% and that includes workdays at the office where I don't use the company wifi and still don't much ration usage. But I'm not always on my phone either so there's that.

And also how much power is someone going to need to run a flashlight in a contingency situation? A couple minutes' flashlight usage isn't going to be much relative to streaming nextflix over the cellular modem.

I'm a tad skeptical of Electron To Go's numbers since their business literally benefits from this very sort of anxiety.


I sense that there's this weird low-level antipathy in some slices of society against many things preparedness-esque. I suspect some of this is snobbery - only blue collar people carry toolbelts and only the poors have lives unpredictable enough that they need to carry things outside of routine needs. And perhaps some of this is a subconscious sense of the tenuous nature of modernity that's unpleasant to consider so it's pushed away.

Before the era of glued-together phones I always bought a spare phone battery; nowadays I tend to have a full charging kit in my work backpack - charger, cables, powerbank. In both cases some people see this as somehow weird (as I'm neither a road warrior nor backpacking through the Andes) - some even after I've rescued them from a predicament of their own creation.
Typical sheeple though. When the SHTF, they won't survive. Nature weeds out the weak, sick, old and in this instance, the unprepared. As the saying goes, you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink. There are Biblical versions of that, too.
 
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