Fossil or renewable. What is the future?

vincent3685

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I'm all for being a good steward of my planet. If for no other reason than to breath cleaner air.

But when the gubment says the water that runs off of the roof of my home HAS to percolate into my yard somewhere instead of flowing to the street..... I have ways to keep the water on my lawn to help keep the grass watered because I WANT to. Yet when they say I HAVE to it makes me want to dig a ditch to the street.

When they walk around a warm office in short sleeves in winter and tell me to turn down my thermostat? They fly private jets from place to place and tell me my gas sipping car is the problem?

When they let men compete in women's sports because he says he's a girl? Or tell me my hamburger is killing the planet while they eat imported steak? That my children should be taught that America is evil? That it's ok to let millions come here without the tiniest background check? That if I vote a certain way or not vote a certain why I'm the enemy? Even a terrorist? That it's ok to loot and plunder or even burn cities if I do it in the name of something they agree with? Destroy historical referrences? That if I don't want porn in school libraries I'm for burning books? That repeat criminals deserve yet another break? Even child rapists?

And you think those folks have your best interest?

It's about chaos in order to impose control later. Get the people so tired of conflict they'll allow the storm troopers to seize control. Not local law enforcement, no they too are the enemy. Central gubment crackdown, just like a country who's name rhymes with Dinah.
Sadly, the plan is working.

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I would be remiss to not mention Will Prowse talked about expensive insurance, repair, and often lengthy periods to get repairs completed, for electric vehicles.

There are complaints about EV's that are also common with ICE vehicles. (I spoke with a worker at the local ACE hardware store this morning. Seems their WiFi or something, disables recent manufacture Ford vehicles, so that towing is required back to the dealer)

Replacing a key on our Toyota Tacoma costs close to $200 to buy, and $180 something to have a 'master tech' program it.

Prowse personally thinks many EV designs are silly, trying to look futuristic but resulting in crazy amounts of money to repair lower level accidents.

He has owned (I think) 8 EV's and says he gets about 35,000 miles out of a set of tires; tires being pretty much the only expenses he has incurred.

He stated that anyone who truly considers oneself an American should build their own photovoltaic system and claim independence from the powers of oil.
 

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The problem isn't the car. It never was. If anything, the problem is basic human psychology. Before the car, people traveled.
Yes and no. The problem is the car and the jet airliner, in that no other form of personal mobility prior has enabled people to travel at will so far and so fast. The problem is not mobility, per se, it's the radius of mobility that is available to us on a daily basis, at a moment's notice. If I wanted to max out my credit cards, I could literally be as far away on Earth as it is possible to be from where I am right now within 24-48 hours.

I can go online to the Ellis Island website and track my older family members trips back and forth across the Atlantic during the entire first half of the 20th Century. My mother's father and his parents came to the US from England in 1922, and my great-grandmother continued to travel back and forth between NYC and Manchester on passenger liners to see her family for decades. It was within the lifetimes of many of the people posting on this board. The SS United States, the fastest passenger liner in the world, was still sailing the transatlantic crossing the year I was born.

I would absolutely love to spend two months touring Europe, including two weeks at sea on the Queen Mary 2.

About two-thirds of all passenger airline flights in the US are flown by people who fly more than 6 times a year (7+ flights per year). This is because most of these flights are for "business" purposes, rather than the once or twice a year family visits or vacations of the average American. In the age of the Internet, there's very little reason to fly for business; it's more or less a means of establishing the privileges of the affluent classes, now.

Suburbia would not and could not exist without the personal automobile. and it is suburbia that is the exemplar of the wastefulness of sprawl that has polluted the planet. Cities are a much more efficient use of natural resources; Manhattanites have the lowest environmental impact per capita of all Americans, for the very simple reason that very few of them own and operate automobiles, and live in a place where living an abundant life is easily possible without cars.

Compared with planes, ships are much more efficient. Compared with cars, subways are more efficent. What you give up is some choice and some speed. I'm not saying we necessarily need to force people to do anything in particular, but if we made comfortable, affordable urban living an attainable option for more people, more people would choose that option. 81% of Americans live in urban or urbanized areas. Less than 1% of Americans are engaged in agricuture, forestry, mining, and other primary industries that necessitate living in rural areas. Most of the people who live in rural areas are doing so not because they need to, but because they can, thanks to the ubiquity of motor vehicles, and many of them are forced to do so when they would rather live in town, because it's cheaper to commute than it is to live in town.

My mother's mother came over from Germany in 1928. She lived in NYC the rest of her life and never obtained a driver's license. In high school, I commuted from Queens to Manhattan 90 minutes each way via bus and subway. I lived in Center City Philadelphia for 7 years without a car, and commuted via NJ Transit train to Atlantic City to rehearse with my band.

I've lived car-free in a Vermont town with an Amtrak station for almost 3 years, now. If I want to travel, I have a direct route to NYC, Newark, Philadelphia, Baltimore, and DC, all of which have major international airports. I can be in Atlantic City in less than 12 hours, without ever getting in a car. Or, if I could afford to, I could board the Queen Mary 2 at NYC and sail to Southampton, England.

In fact, I'm planning to visit my mother in California later this year, so I'm planning on taking Amtrak to Philadelphia, and flying from there to San Francisco.

With my ebike, I can go everywhere in my town, but I can't get to the two larger shopping centers that are 20-30 miles away over hills that would drain my battery before I got there. Almost everything I need is within a 4 mile radius, including three supermarkets, a Walmart, a Runnings, and a Tractor Supply. If I can't get what I need in that radius, Amazon, USPS, UPS, DHL, and FedEx will supply me with most of my other needs. In fact, right now, I have an order coming from the EU for some new bicycle tires, because they are cheaper to buy online from the EU and pay for international shipping than they are to buy from any US supplier, because not enough Americans ride bicycles.
 

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Yes and no. The problem is the car and the jet airliner, in that no other form of personal mobility prior has enabled people to travel at will so far and so fast. The problem is not mobility, per se, it's the radius of mobility that is available to us on a daily basis, at a moment's notice. If I wanted to max out my credit cards, I could literally be as far away on Earth as it is possible to be from where I am right now within 24-48 hours.

I can go online to the Ellis Island website and track my older family members trips back and forth across the Atlantic during the entire first half of the 20th Century. My mother's father and his parents came to the US from England in 1922, and my great-grandmother continued to travel back and forth between NYC and Manchester on passenger liners to see her family for decades. It was within the lifetimes of many of the people posting on this board. The SS United States, the fastest passenger liner in the world, was still sailing the transatlantic crossing the year I was born.

I would absolutely love to spend two months touring Europe, including two weeks at sea on the Queen Mary 2.

About two-thirds of all passenger airline flights in the US are flown by people who fly more than 6 times a year (7+ flights per year). This is because most of these flights are for "business" purposes, rather than the once or twice a year family visits or vacations of the average American. In the age of the Internet, there's very little reason to fly for business; it's more or less a means of establishing the privileges of the affluent classes, now.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEnXNgoqjDM

Suburbia would not and could not exist without the personal automobile. and it is suburbia that is the exemplar of the wastefulness of sprawl that has polluted the planet. Cities are a much more efficient use of natural resources; Manhattanites have the lowest environmental impact per capita of all Americans, for the very simple reason that very few of them own and operate automobiles, and live in a place where living an abundant life is easily possible without cars.

Compared with planes, ships are much more efficient. Compared with cars, subways are more efficent. What you give up is some choice and some speed. I'm not saying we necessarily need to force people to do anything in particular, but if we made comfortable, affordable urban living an attainable option for more people, more people would choose that option. 81% of Americans live in urban or urbanized areas. Less than 1% of Americans are engaged in agricuture, forestry, mining, and other primary industries that necessitate living in rural areas. Most of the people who live in rural areas are doing so not because they need to, but because they can, thanks to the ubiquity of motor vehicles, and many of them are forced to do so when they would rather live in town, because it's cheaper to commute than it is to live in town.

My mother's mother came over from Germany in 1928. She lived in NYC the rest of her life and never obtained a driver's license. In high school, I commuted from Queens to Manhattan 90 minutes each way via bus and subway. I lived in Center City Philadelphia for 7 years without a car, and commuted via NJ Transit train to Atlantic City to rehearse with my band.

I've lived car-free in a Vermont town with an Amtrak station for almost 3 years, now. If I want to travel, I have a direct route to NYC, Newark, Philadelphia, Baltimore, and DC, all of which have major international airports. I can be in Atlantic City in less than 12 hours, without ever getting in a car. Or, if I could afford to, I could board the Queen Mary 2 at NYC and sail to Southampton, England.

In fact, I'm planning to visit my mother in California later this year, so I'm planning on taking Amtrak to Philadelphia, and flying from there to San Francisco.

With my ebike, I can go everywhere in my town, but I can't get to the two larger shopping centers that are 20-30 miles away over hills that would drain my battery before I got there. Almost everything I need is within a 4 mile radius, including three supermarkets, a Walmart, a Runnings, and a Tractor Supply. If I can't get what I need in that radius, Amazon, USPS, UPS, DHL, and FedEx will supply me with most of my other needs. In fact, right now, I have an order coming from the EU for some new bicycle tires, because they are cheaper to buy online from the EU and pay for international shipping than they are to buy from any US supplier, because not enough Americans ride bicycles.
Well, all of that is great for you. Personally, I don't want to live cramped up like sardines in some crime-infested, congested shithole city, forced to interact with people I don't like and who otherwise hate me. I want space around me. For me, "Environmental impact" is waaay down the list of my concerns.

I would remind you that this is America. As such, we have the ability and right to choose where we live and what to buy. I resent anyone, especially the govt., telling me what they think I need and what I can't have. How dare anyone presume they know what's best for me. I'm sure you have things and make choices that lots of other people don't agree with as well.

In America, it's not about "need", it's about want. I don't care how much money someone has. If they have the means, I don't begrudge them getting whatever they want. I'm sick of the govt. trying to pick winners and losers in the interest of some alleged "greater good" for all.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I have a now fully legal bump-stock to REinstall on my 30 round AR-15 rifle (no, I did not comply with the ATF's illegal rule-making, mandating destruction. I kept mine). As well as a now legal pistol brace (again, did not comply with the ATF's rule to register it as an SBR) to REinstall on my 10.5 inch short barreled AR pistol. To put in my 15mpg, V-8 powered, dual exhaust, full size pick-up, to use as a truck gun. Have a nice life.
 
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People will stop driving when they can no longer afford to drive. Best to prepare for that day before it comes.
That day came decades ago! That's why car dealerships have leasing, and financing options, especially for those who are delusional. You can lease a fully-loaded Jeep Grand Cherokee for about the same amount of money that you could buy a base trim Mitsubishi Mirage hatchback. 2nd least expensive new car in the North American market. (1st, after you haggle with the dealership.) None of whom want those things taking up precious space on their lots. But as a dealer, if you want the most popular models a brand has to offer, you have to be willing to take an equal number of their least popular models; and put those on your dealer lots. Just how it works.

For sensible folks who still can't afford the cheapest new models out there. No worries, dealerships will again happily bend over backwards to get you financing (at high interest rates of course) through their creditors. And here's the thing, people go for that. Why?....

They have jobs they need to go to in order to make money. To put food on the table so their families can eat. To keep up with rent or mortgage payments. To put clothes on their childrens' backs. To pay for the garbage healthcare coverage they can barely afford. ($50 - $75 copay before they are even allowed to speak with their family doctor. Hell, there are exclusive clubs in NYC filled with celebs on the weekend that are cheaper to get into!) Welcome to the world of the working class in America. A nation where most citizens don't have access to public transportation to head to work and back on a daily basis. A nation where most towns, villages, and even large cities have zero subway services, and public bus access that is anemic; if it even exists at all. America isn't just LA and NYC.

Those are the exceptions when it comes to public transportation. And, as I've pointed out in other topics on CPF, there are entire jurisdictions within NYC that have garbage public transportation services. Including the overcrowded neighborhood where I work my 3rd shift job. If I didn't have a car, I literally couldn't reliably get to work every night.

For most folks who go through the expense of buying and maintaining a car, it's a necessity! Not a luxury. That's like someone complaining their grocery bills each week are too high. And, someone walks up to them and says, "Oh, just stop eating." Literally makes as much sense as saying, "Oh, just take public transportation." Sure, completely ditch your car, and rely on anemic to non-existence public transportation services in their neck of the woods.

Same thing with EVs. Just switch over to one. Oh, you live in an apartment and can't have a charging station installed at all? Well, screw practicality. Buy one anyway!
 

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....Suburbia would not and could not exist without the personal automobile. and it is suburbia that is the exemplar of the wastefulness of sprawl that has polluted the planet. Cities are a much more efficient use of natural resources; Manhattanites have the lowest environmental impact per capita of all Americans, for the very simple reason that very few of them own and operate automobiles, and live in a place where living an abundant life is easily possible without cars.
No issues with the first section of your post. Who wouldn't enjoy having limitless funds and a Private jet so they could travel the world. But Suburbia isn't wasteful. I'm a short subway ride away from Manhattan. Been there enough times to personally let you know that if you want filth, wastefulness, and a dirty disgusting place to visit; go there! It looks clean, it looks tidy. But only thanks to the massive amount of resources, money, and sheer manpower spend on Sanitation! Some of the best not just in America, but the world! Don't get it twisted. Just because many vistors don't see the filth, garbage, and waste of this massive collection of people living literally on top of each other, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

The fact that Suburbia has less people infesting it like roaches, that right there is proof that it isn't remotely as wasteful as ANY big city. So that first premise is flawed. Rendering the 2nd one moot. Also, you're forgetting one HUGE thing. Just because a Manhattanite doesn't own a car, doesn't mean they don't rely on them. Manhattan island is the only part of NYC with cabbies going by every 2 seconds, looking for fares. They do this because they know they'll get one in a few seconds of driving. Other parts of NYC? Forget it! You have to call a cab service to come pick you up if you need a ride! Not Manhattan though. Easily biggest concentration of pollution thanks to cabs, and city buses that aren't forced to comply with state or city mandated pollution laws. Why own a car when you can literally hail one whenever you need it.
Compared with planes, ships are much more efficient. Compared with cars, subways are more efficent.
Yes, but in most of America, completely non-existent. They don't exist. Do you honestly expect people to rely on a form of transportation that literally doesn't exist where they live? Heck, I can name entire communities within NYC where subway services literally don't exist.
What you give up is some choice and some speed. I'm not saying we necessarily need to force people to do anything in particular, but if we made comfortable, affordable urban living an attainable option for more people, more people would choose that option.
Yes, I agree. Problem is, that's NEVER going to happen. You expect land owners and building owners to lose out on millioms of dollars in income by giving up their property to the State to have affordable luxury housing built on their properties? Literally never going to happen.
81% of Americans live in urban or urbanized areas. Less than 1% of Americans are engaged in agricuture, forestry, mining, and other primary industries that necessitate living in rural areas.
Where do you think the jobs and money are? Doesn't even matter what skill level we are talking about. People go where they can earn a living. Especially a lucrative one. In America nowadays, that's not rural America.
Most of the people who live in rural areas are doing so not because they need to, but because they can, thanks to the ubiquity of motor vehicles, and many of them are forced to do so when they would rather live in town, because it's cheaper to commute than it is to live in town.
Again, most folks are living in cities because that's where the money is. No one is forced to live anywhere. And, if they don't like where they live, they can hop into their vehicles and drive someplace else. Why folks choose to stay in certain rural parts of America has nothing to do with private automobile ownership.
My mother's mother came over from Germany in 1928. She lived in NYC the rest of her life and never obtained a driver's license. In high school, I commuted from Queens to Manhattan 90 minutes each way via bus and subway. I lived in Center City Philadelphia for 7 years without a car, and commuted via NJ Transit train to Atlantic City to rehearse with my band.
Again, those places are not MOST of America. Yes, you can live in certain places without ever buying a car, without ever getting a driver's license. But those are tiny, isolated, pocket communities compared to the rest of the nation. Where again, anemic or non-existent public transportation services are the norm. Want to get around in most of America? A privately-owned automobile is your ONLY option. Literally a necessity.
I've lived car-free in a Vermont town with an Amtrak station for almost 3 years, now. If I want to travel, I have a direct route to NYC, Newark, Philadelphia, Baltimore, and DC, all of which have major international airports. I can be in Atlantic City in less than 12 hours, without ever getting in a car. Or, if I could afford to, I could board the Queen Mary 2 at NYC and sail to Southampton, England.
See above. It's great that you've been fortunarte to live in these pocket communities where you've been able to take advantage of transportation that doesn't involve a privately owned car. But again, your life and experiences don't reflect what folks in the rest of the nation experience.
In fact, I'm planning to visit my mother in California later this year, so I'm planning on taking Amtrak to Philadelphia, and flying from there to San Francisco.
Again, your life, your experiences in places where transportation without a car is possible.
With my ebike, I can go everywhere in my town, but I can't get to the two larger shopping centers that are 20-30 miles away over hills that would drain my battery before I got there. Almost everything I need is within a 4 mile radius, including three supermarkets, a Walmart, a Runnings, and a Tractor Supply. If I can't get what I need in that radius, Amazon, USPS, UPS, DHL, and FedEx will supply me with most of my other needs. In fact, right now, I have an order coming from the EU for some new bicycle tires, because they are cheaper to buy online from the EU and pay for international shipping than they are to buy from any US supplier, because not enough Americans ride bicycles.
If you had a car, none of those would be an issue for you.
 

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No issues with the first section of your post. Who wouldn't enjoy having limitless funds and a Private jet so they could travel the world. But Suburbia isn't wasteful. I'm a short subway ride away from Manhattan. Been there enough times to personally let you know that if you want filth, wastefulness, and a dirty disgusting place to visit; go there! It looks clean, it looks tidy. But only thanks to the massive amount of resources, money, and sheer manpower spend on Sanitation! Some of the best not just in America, but the world! Don't get it twisted. Just because many vistors don't see the filth, garbage, and waste of this massive collection of people living literally on top of each other, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

The fact that Suburbia has less people infesting it like roaches, that right there is proof that it isn't remotely as wasteful as ANY big city. So that first premise is flawed. Rendering the 2nd one moot. Also, you're forgetting one HUGE thing. Just because a Manhattanite doesn't own a car, doesn't mean they don't rely on them. Manhattan island is the only part of NYC with cabbies going by every 2 seconds, looking for fares. They do this because they know they'll get one in a few seconds of driving. Other parts of NYC? Forget it! You have to call a cab service to come pick you up if you need a ride! Not Manhattan though. Easily biggest concentration of pollution thanks to cabs, and city buses that aren't forced to comply with state or city mandated pollution laws. Why own a car when you can literally hail one whenever you need it.

Yes, but in most of America, completely non-existent. They don't exist. Do you honestly expect people to rely on a form of transportation that literally doesn't exist where they live? Heck, I can name entire communities within NYC where subway services literally don't exist.

Yes, I agree. Problem is, that's NEVER going to happen. You expect land owners and building owners to lose out on millioms of dollars in income by giving up their property to the State to have affordable luxury housing built on their properties? Literally never going to happen.

Where do you think the jobs and money are? Doesn't even matter what skill level we are talking about. People go where they can earn a living. Especially a lucrative one. In America nowadays, that's not rural America.

Again, most folks are living in cities because that's where the money is. No one is forced to live anywhere. And, if they don't like where they live, they can hop into their vehicles and drive someplace else. Why folks choose to stay in certain rural parts of America has nothing to do with private automobile ownership.

Again, those places are not MOST of America. Yes, you can live in certain places without ever buying a car, without ever getting a driver's license. But those are tiny, isolated, pocket communities compared to the rest of the nation. Where again, anemic or non-existent public transportation services are the norm. Want to get around in most of America? A privately-owned automobile is your ONLY option. Literally a necessity.

See above. It's great that you've been fortunarte to live in these pocket communities where you've been able to take advantage of transportation that doesn't involve a privately owned car. But again, your life and experiences don't reflect what folks in the rest of the nation experience.

Again, your life, your experiences in places where transportation without a car is possible.

If you had a car, none of those would be an issue for you.
Sadly, it appears that a not-insignificant percentage of the population would quite enjoy living in the tightly-controlled, stack-and-pack "15 minute cities" that the WEF and its accomplices have planned for humanity.

One's sense of freedom cannot be outraged if one does not possess it in the first place.
 

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I'm all for being a good steward of my planet. If for no other reason than to breath cleaner air.

But when the gubment says the water that runs off of the roof of my home HAS to percolate into my yard somewhere instead of flowing to the street..... I have ways to keep the water on my lawn to help keep the grass watered because I WANT to. Yet when they say I HAVE to it makes me want to dig a ditch to the street.

When they walk around a warm office in short sleeves in winter and tell me to turn down my thermostat? They fly private jets from place to place and tell me my gas sipping car is the problem?

When they let men compete in women's sports because he says he's a girl? Or tell me my hamburger is killing the planet while they eat imported steak? That my children should be taught that America is evil? That it's ok to let millions come here without the tiniest background check? That if I vote a certain way or not vote a certain why I'm the enemy? Even a terrorist? That it's ok to loot and plunder or even burn cities if I do it in the name of something they agree with? Destroy historical referrences? That if I don't want porn in school libraries I'm for burning books? That repeat criminals deserve yet another break? Even child rapists?

And you think those folks have your best interest?

It's about chaos in order to impose control later. Get the people so tired of conflict they'll allow the storm troopers to seize control. Not local law enforcement, no they too are the enemy. Central gubment crackdown, just like a country who's name rhymes with Dinah.
Sadly, the plan is working.

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Well, all of that is great for you. Personally, I don't want to live cramped up like sardines in some crime-infested, congested shithole city, forced to interact with people I don't like and who otherwise hate me. I want space around me. For me, "Environmental impact" is waaay down the list of my concerns.

I would remind you that this is America. As such, we have the ability and right to choose where we live and what to buy. I resent anyone, especially the govt., telling me what they think I need and what I can't have. How dare anyone presume they know what's best for me. I'm sure you have things and make choices that lots of other people don't agree with as well.

In America, it's not about "need", it's about want. I don't care how much money someone has. If they have the means, I don't begrudge them getting whatever they want. I'm sick of the govt. trying to pick winners and losers in the interest of some alleged "greater good" for all.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I have a now fully legal bump-stock to REinstall on my 30 round AR-15 rifle (no, I did not comply with the ATF's illegal rule-making, mandating destruction. I kept mine). As well as a now legal pistol brace (again, did not comply with the ATF's rule to register it as an SBR) to REinstall on my 10.5 inch short barreled AR pistol. To put in my 15mpg, V-8 powered, dual exhaust, full size pick-up, to use as a truck gun. Have a nice life.
I feel sorry for Bambi, or anyone who stumbles across your property.
 

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Well, all of that is great for you. Personally, I don't want to live cramped up like sardines in some crime-infested, congested shithole city, forced to interact with people I don't like and who otherwise hate me. I want space around me. For me, "Environmental impact" is waaay down the list of my concerns.

I would remind you that this is America. As such, we have the ability and right to choose where we live and what to buy. I resent anyone, especially the govt., telling me what they think I need and what I can't have. How dare anyone presume they know what's best for me. I'm sure you have things and make choices that lots of other people don't agree with as well.

In America, it's not about "need", it's about want. I don't care how much money someone has. If they have the means, I don't begrudge them getting whatever they want. I'm sick of the govt. trying to pick winners and losers in the interest of some alleged "greater good" for all.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I have a now fully legal bump-stock to REinstall on my 30 round AR-15 rifle (no, I did not comply with the ATF's illegal rule-making, mandating destruction. I kept mine). As well as a now legal pistol brace (again, did not comply with the ATF's rule to register it as an SBR) to REinstall on my 10.5 inch short barreled AR pistol. To put in my 15mpg, V-8 powered, dual exhaust, full size pick-up, to use as a truck gun. Have a nice life.
I love hearing true Americans speak their mind. :cool:
 

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I love hearing true Americans speak their mind. :cool:
There are more incidents where old men shoot people who accidentally stumble across their property. The pizza man and a kid looking for his sister. Don't be isolated and fearful and forget to upgrade your glasses or your mental ability to see reality.
 

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Sadly, it appears that a not-insignificant percentage of the population would quite enjoy living in the tightly-controlled, stack-and-pack "15 minute cities" that the WEF and its accomplices have planned for humanity.

One's sense of freedom cannot be outraged if one does not possess it in the first place.
And that mentality is unfortunately being cultivated, in America.
True freedom and independence takes effort. Nowadays we have a significant number of the population who'll happily trade that effort and necessary hard work, in exchange for comfort. Why think, why do; why be burdened when you can let others make those decisions for you. It's easy being a slave if you're not actually forced to do back-breaking labor on a daily basis.
 

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There are more incidents where old men shoot people who accidentally stumble across their property. The pizza man and a kid looking for his sister. Don't be isolated and fearful and forget to upgrade your glasses or your mental ability to see reality.
Two reasons, no three....
1) men live to be old these days. Used to be men generally died in their 60's and 70's... in my lifetime. Not many crazy old koots were around.

2) more people are crazy. And news about all those crazy people is constantly blasted on the tv, the radio and in the newspapers.

3) used to be you shot somebody on your property only you and sheriff Walt Longmire knew about it. Now, that is no longer the case.

Meanwhile in big cities kids are killing kids.
 
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