From the "What were they thinking file?!?"

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And of course, all the massive aid to the Ukraine to help prevent that nation from being steamrolled over by the Dictator or Russia who at this point can't be bothered to pretend he's simply a President. Trump said he would not only cut off aid, but strongly implied he'd put pressure on Ukraine's President to basically surrender to Putin.

Under those circumstances, there is no way I can vote for Trump. Good Ole' Joe is one of the worst Presidents in American history, but he got two things right. Acknowledgement and Aid.
You are aware that Trump was the first President to allow weapons to be sent to Ukraine aren't you? The Obama administration, with Joe Biden dealing with Ukrainian officials sent them $600 million in non-lethal aid and a warehouse full of useless blankets and stuffed animals. Trump put a temporary pause on aid to Ukraine to find out where the money was going after hearing the smoking gun video of Joe Biden bragging about withholding a billion dollars to get a prosecutor fired for Ukraine to secure a billion dollar loan guarantee in a pay for play scheme (an impeachable offense). If you knew your nation's money was about to go to a corrupt nation, you'd want to track the money first to make sure it was getting where it was supposed to go instead of to line corrupt bureaucrats' pockets. Hunter Biden was on the board of Burisma. The prosecutor was looking into that company's corruption. Here's the smoking gun video of Biden if you don't believe me.

 

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You are aware that Trump was the first President to allow weapons to be sent to Ukraine aren't you?
Yes, but he only did so because he figured it might cause both sides to negotiate a treaty. When that didn't happen, all of a sudden he realized continued Aid and weapons would need to be supplied. Instead of being looked at as the man who decisively ended the conflict, he was going to be an unwilling long-term participant in the war. Easily explains why he changed his outlook, and now insists that if elected, he'd basically force the Ukraine to capitulate. With zero punishment of Putin and Russian troops to the hideous and blatant war-crimes/atrocities being committed by them.

It's great that at first Trump did the right thing. But now he's clearly not interested at all in doing that. That's like looking back on the early days you had with your Ex., while completely ignoring the horrible things she did that caused you to finally break up with her.
The Obama administration, with Joe Biden dealing with Ukrainian officials sent them $600 million in non-lethal aid and a warehouse full of useless blankets and stuffed animals.
True. But Obama was in charge of that. Clearly had Biden been President back then, he'd have sent weapons and real Aid. As evidenced by what he's done since he became President himself.
Trump put a temporary pause on aid to Ukraine to find out where the money was going after hearing the smoking gun video of Joe Biden bragging about withholding a billion dollars to get a prosecutor fired for Ukraine to secure a billion dollar loan guarantee in a pay for play scheme (an impeachable offense).
What do you want me to say? Politics is a dirty, disgusting game that every career politician knows how to play. Just make sure that the Public sees you in a very clean suit & tie. Trump has done some vulgar/disgusting things as well. Realistically speaking, you sometimes have career politicians that do the right thing for the wrong reasons. And no, that's not the worst thing a person can do in the world.

Many years ago, local Pizza place near the giant Con-Ed complex in Astoria was having some financial issues. Owner did what he had to do. In the end, a gorgeous young woman, who was a die-hard extremist Liberal who worked for an equally extremist newspaper well-known in the area, did a very favorable and glowing report on the business that increased sales. You should have seen the absolute disgust on the owner's face, having to cater to her and her "miserable rag," just to increase sales. But it worked! Business saved.

That's the reality of this world. People, nations, and Pizza places in desperate need for Aid will take it from anyone willing to offer it. Including career politicians.

If you knew your nation's money was about to go to a corrupt nation, you'd want to track the money first to make sure it was getting where it was supposed to go instead of to line corrupt bureaucrats' pockets.
Ukraine isn't corrupt. Their President is above board. Are there corrupt elements within the nation? Yes. But that's literally every nation on the face of the planet. Including America.... As you yourself pointed out.
Hunter Biden was on the board of Burisma. The prosecutor was looking into that company's corruption. Here's the smoking gun video of Biden if you don't believe me.
Again, not disagreeing with that. But as far as Aid going to Ukraine, for Ukrainians; Biden's son's antics don't matter. Heck, U.S. is happy to conduct business with China every year while looking the other way on that country's horrific human-rights abuses, torture, and mass murder of its own citizens.

Doesn't stop the average flashaholic from buying a new light that clearly says "Made in China" on it.
 

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Reminds me of Bart Baker's Macklemore Thrift Shop Parody on YouTube. Not going to post it though because of all the cussing.
Ironically he went to China and became a MASSIVE star after YouTube got greedy and started paying even the premium content creators about 10% what they used to earn, previously.
 

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Be careful who you choose to be in a fantasy football league with. They can come up with some really interesting and embarrassing punishments for the losers.

 

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Saw this today :rolleyes:

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the ones mad at the police in this shooting are the same ones who want to defund the police and they also belive no one should have guns!!!!! scarey people
 

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the ones mad at the police in this shooting are the same ones who want to defund the police and they also belive no one should have guns!!!!! scarey people
When you explain to people that gun control means only the cops and the criminals have all the guns, and they want to defund the police, therefore if they had it their way, only the criminals would have the guns because they don't follow the laws, they start to realize gun control and defunding the police may not be a great idea after all. That is, if they have any brains or concept of deductive reasoning.
 
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