Full sized police flashlight with amazing performance needed.

[hkusp9]

Ok, so im going back to night shift after years on evenings and want to buy myself another nice duty light.

Im currently carrying a Surefire Z-2 combat light with a Malkhoff M60-MCE 500 lumen wide flood led bulb for room clearing. Imagine a surefire 6P with a garage door flood lightbulb stuffed in it.

Also carrying a jetbeam 6P looking light thats adjustable between 110 and 640 lumens, its a cross between a thrower and floody.

both of these are carried on belt at the 10 O clock in two polymer surefire light holsters that are cut and plastic welded together.

What im looking for is a streamlight SL-20 or 4D maglight sized LED rechargable duty light. Can have removable batteries or plug in or charging dock, dont really care. Needs to be BRIGHT! Like 2000 lumen range, would like something with 1 or 2 light levels for traffic stops and looking across fields if necessary and a reflector thats can do both.

Price range is $0-300ish, im willing to pay for quality if necessary. I have a 1000 lumen incandescent maglight 4D custom made contraption but the durability of the internal stuff sucked, if you dropped it, everything inside would get knocked out of whack.

ive also carried several different solarfire masterpieces and similar sized and shape 1000 lumen LED's and thought very highly of them.

Any ideas?

 

[alpg88]

fenix tk70.
olight sr90-95.

 

[hkusp9]

fenix tk70.
olight sr90-95.

ok, i have handled the olight before and its just TOO big. Its both long and wide as well having a massive head on it.

I need something thats just a little smaller. The head on the Olight is too wide to be practical for carrying around and the body is too wide to comfortable hold and operate with one hand.

What about those tiny monsters or those coke can sized goofy looking high output lights?

 

[Bad Karma]

Maybe an XM-L or SST-90 Magcharger conversion? I just got an XM-L Magcharger that Jayrob made for me and it's hands-down brighter than anything else I've seen on the street. 1000 led lumens, maybe 800ish OTF with amazing throw and excellent spill. Way better throw than the drop-in from terrorlux, almost as throwy as the Unity spotlight on our cars.

With a 3-D nimh conversion and a few mods to the charge cradle, you can get roughly 4 hours on high, 10 on med (450ish lumens), 70 hours low (110ish lumens). I've had mine on high for about an hour continuous without it getting very hot at all.

For me it is the perfect work light.

The only downside is the cost of the donor light. But I just got a shipment of used, abused Magchargers from a Police Dept in Texas that can make perfect hosts on the cheap!

-Dan

 

[alpg88]

What about those tiny monsters or those coke can sized goofy looking high output lights?

they are very bright, but due to small reflectors it is mostly flood, it has reach due to lumens, but not due to focused beam, it would not be ideal light to shine across a big field. in traffic stop, idk, but at close distance it is blinding on full. another thing about tm11, it wont run on high for long time, due to heat build up, driver would trim the output. i live in nyc, i see lots of cops daily, nypd, dhs, federal protective service.., never seen anyone carry tm11. or anything other than surefire or streamlight. and in some cases maglights. i also don't know how reliable TM11 would be if you dropped it few times.

 

[asval]

I got a Crelant 7G5-V2 from Link Removed as per the banner at the top of the page Norm which I've been using it in single cell mode, since I'm running it on unprotected c - Normells. So far I'm loving it and that might be some - thing to consider. Here's a review for it


Here's some beamshots to help out and while the crelant isn't there, you can get an idea of the output by looking at similar lights and using the review from selfbuilt.

scroll down for beamshots
http://www.taschenlampen-forum.de/beamshot-vergleiche/14631-beamshotschiessen-arzt-kommt.html

http://www.wikilight.de/vergleich.php?a=130&b=61
http://fonarik.com/test/indexen.php

 

[MaNCuBuS]

I know you wanted 2000 lumens but there is a new streamlight SL20L with an LED. It is 350 lumens but has 60000 candelas, so it is a thrower. 3 levels and strobe. It also is compatible with all your old SL20 chargers which is also a plus. 2000 lumens is a lot..:huh:.something to consider if you are clearing a house with white walls... The reflection will be pretty bright. Also, i dont know what kind of runtime issues or heat problems you would have with a 2000 lumen light. This is a light worth taking a look at if you are in the market for the full size light with the proven LE record of reliability and durability.

 

[hkusp9]

I know you wanted 2000 lumens but there is a new streamlight SL20L with an LED. It is 350 lumens but has 60000 candelas, so it is a thrower. 3 levels and strobe. It also is compatible with all your old SL20 chargers which is also a plus. 2000 lumens is a lot..:huh:.something to consider if you are clearing a house with white walls... The reflection will be pretty bright. Also, i dont know what kind of runtime issues or heat problems you would have with a 2000 lumen light. This is a light worth taking a look at if you are in the market for the full size light with the proven LE record of reliability and durability.

No offense, but i own several streamlights and all they have a proven track record for is being crap. I have one little pocket EDC thats decent, i think its called a P2L or something but my streamlight stinger had 3 switches go bad on it, the anodizing faded really bad and turned "HK plum" colored, and i lost a few rubber boot covers too.

Oh and also, my car charger got a short in it requiring me to stand on my head to get it to charge, had too wrap a rubber band around the cord at the base of the charger to make it work, until it finally died completely.

Also, i would never clear a building with a 2000 lumen light in any circumstance. I use my 500 lumen surefire Z2 with the malkhoff bulb on a lanyard for that. Basically with that thing, i just point the light at the ceiling of whatever room im in and the bounce is enough to completely illuminate the entire room. Even a tightly focused 80-120 lumen light against a white wall from a certain distance can totally mess up your night adapted vision.

 

[hkusp9]

they are very bright, but due to small reflectors it is mostly flood, it has reach due to lumens, but not due to focused beam, it would not be ideal light to shine across a big field. in traffic stop, idk, but at close distance it is blinding on full. another thing about tm11, it wont run on high for long time, due to heat build up, driver would trim the output. i live in nyc, i see lots of cops daily, nypd, dhs, federal protective service.., never seen anyone carry tm11. or anything other than surefire or streamlight. and in some cases maglights. i also don't know how reliable TM11 would be if you dropped it few times.

I cant speak for the federal guys that you deal with, but most cops are 35k a year, blue collar, regular guys that dont invest very much on their gear. Ive seen plenty of cops with totally dead lights, cops that dont know how to field strip their glocks or shoot themselves in the thigh while trying to do so. I try not to compare myself to most cops.

Your concern about it being dropped is a very valid one however. The specs on it say that its impact resistant to 1.5 meters or about 4-4.5 feet. Which seems reasonable, but then again, i have killed my fair share of solarforce, ultrafire, trustfire type of lights by dropping them on the concrete from waist or chest level.

 

[hkusp9]

right now im looking at the nitecore TM 11 or maybe a Trustfire TR-J18, sunwayman T60CS, ThruNite TN30.

Any of those sound like something that would work for a bad *** general purpose light?

 

[MaNCuBuS]

No offense, but i own several streamlights and all they have a proven track record for is being crap. I have one little pocket EDC thats decent, i think its called a P2L or something but my streamlight stinger had 3 switches go bad on it, the anodizing faded really bad and turned "HK plum" colored, and i lost a few rubber boot covers too.

Oh and also, my car charger got a short in it requiring me to stand on my head to get it to charge, had too wrap a rubber band around the cord at the base of the charger to make it work, until it finally died completely.

Also, i would never clear a building with a 2000 lumen light in any circumstance. I use my 500 lumen surefire Z2 with the malkhoff bulb on a lanyard for that. Basically with that thing, i just point the light at the ceiling of whatever room im in and the bounce is enough to completely illuminate the entire room. Even a tightly focused 80-120 lumen light against a white wall from a certain distance can totally mess up your night adapted vision.

No offense taken . Sorry you have had such a bad history with streamlight. My old streamlight sl20 is 20 years old and I only replaced a switch cause the rubber wore down.. Just a garage light now tho.

That is an unusual tactic to clear a room with ceiling bounce...never heard or seen that "tactic" before...

 

[hkusp9]

No offense taken . Sorry you have had such a bad history with streamlight. My old streamlight sl20 is 20 years old and I only replaced a switch cause the rubber wore down.. Just a garage light now tho.

That is an unusual tactic to clear a room with ceiling bounce...never heard or seen that "tactic" before...

yeah, it works surprisingly well. Ive done a few low light shooting classes, SWAT school, building clearing classes, active shooter classes ect and of all the techniques ive been exposed to I like this one the best. I'll take a couple of photos of this approach and the light later on this week and post in them in a different thread since i dont want to derail this one.

Actually, i have to take a 1 day low light building clearing class first week of November if i remember right so it would be nice to buy this light before then (although i probably wont use it for the class).

 

[Vortus]

Eagletacs new MX25 might fit.

 

[hkusp9]

Eagletacs new MX25 might fit.

that thing looks super interesting but from what i can ascertain online, its just vaporware at this point but is expected to be released in November.

At this point im looking at the sunwayman T60Cs, the thrunite TN30, this thing the eagletac MX25, and the nitecore TM15.

Any help discerning between those?

 

[Gunner12]

The Thrunite TN31 would have more throw due to the large reflector, but less overall output. I wouldn't trust the Trustfire, reviews say quality is fine, but it's probably still built like a budget light.

Check the review section and see which numbers you like the most. I know selfbuilt has reviewed the Sunwayman T60CS and the Thrunite TN30. The Nitecore TM11 might be similar to the TM15, so the review of the TM11 could give some idea.

Selfbuilt's review site:
http://www.flashlightreviews.ca/
Links there point back to here

 

[Vortus]

that thing looks super interesting but from what i can ascertain online, its just vaporware at this point but is expected to be released in November.

At this point im looking at the sunwayman T60Cs, the thrunite TN30, this thing the eagletac MX25, and the nitecore TM15.

Any help discerning between those?

No, it's on the market now. Already in folks hands. Some beam shots starting to pop up now. All the lights your looking at are nice. The MX I'd prefer due to its size/format. Looks to fit well on a duty bel.t.

 

[alpg88]

cops that dont know how to field strip their glocks or shoot themselves in the thigh while trying to do so.

lol, yes, that happens.

 

[Hogokansatsukan]

The TM11 is a great light, but I would not use it for duty use as the button can be a bit "touchy". The light press turns it on when I don't want it on, and the button can be hard to locate quickly on the light. Take a look at the Jetbeam RRT3XML. I have this one as well with the handle (I don't carry it on my belt) and the remote switch taped to the handle. It's built like a brick sh@thouse.

 

[jabe1]

Have you looked at 4sevens Maelstrom lineup?

 

[texan_eagle_scout]

yeah, it works surprisingly well. Ive done a few low light shooting classes, SWAT school, building clearing classes, active shooter classes ect and of all the techniques ive been exposed to I like this one the best. I'll take a couple of photos of this approach and the light later on this week and post in them in a different thread since i dont want to derail this one.

Actually, i have to take a 1 day low light building clearing class first week of November if i remember right so it would be nice to buy this light before then (although i probably wont use it for the class).

I'd be interested in seeing those pics.