G&P Scorpion Series R500(lumen) Flashlight...

[jts]

I just got mine from Waion. Initial thoughts: surprisingly good fit, finish and build qual, i mean really good. Finish is more matte than the Type II finish on Mags and SLs. Nit: I hate the "Scorpion" logo and will cover it up with some grip tape. Might actually put tape on all 4 flats as well as the rounded part because there is no knurling of any type on the body.

I wish I still had them to compare head to head, but based on some informal wall shots and ceiling bounce tests, the output is roughly similar to the 13v W/E M90 and an MN61 (M4 HOLA). The W/E 13v and/or the MN61 might put out more light (which Quickbeam's reviews seem to indicate), but it's not readily apparent to the naked eye. Bonus points for the convenient rechargeable setup (running the MN61 is not cheap), smaller form factor than the M90 with extender, and for not being $$$$. My diminished need for powerful incans made it easy to dump the M90 and the M4 (equivalent) but this is cheap enough that I don't feel bad only lighting it up once in awhile.

Assuming the batteries aren't total garbage (and if they are, LGs will be put in instead), and that the life span of the LA is somewhat reasonable, I don't see that there's anything to dislike or worry about re reliability.

 

[bitterman1970]

I hope this isn't a silly question, but , do any Surefire tailcaps work/fit on this thing ??

 

[cheapo]

Are these lights really worth it, is there any outdoor shots or comparions of this thing?Im on the brink of ordering it today, but I kind of want a final opinion and a outdoor shot. I dont have the time to go through 500 post. Thanks for the help if you can.

Edit: also do they break easy?
Its 2pm now and I want to order it by 3pm if I can so it will arrive from lighthound on Friday.:rock:

What ever I just orderd it. I will let you guys know how I like it when I recieve it.

you will like it... take my word for it. There is no high powered incand out there with better bang for the buck. Machining is great, threads are smooth, and output and throw are phenominal. Tint is nice and yellow (not a hint of orange), and it seems to be quite reliable. Beam quality is descent, and finish is nice. Only thing is that the o-rings dont seem to be cut very well, as there are little peices of o-ring hanging off- not a big deal, just a bit weird.

overal, it is great.

I hope this isn't a silly question, but , do any Surefire tailcaps work/fit on this thing ??

u2 tailcap doesnt, and i dont think the m4 tailcap works either, but i am not sure, as the one i tested is broken i think... but it did fit.

-David

-David

 

[Whitelitee]

Thanks for your imput man, yea I was gonna get the AI Illuminatior HID, Because Im more of an LED/HID guy hence my name. Being I get by with my FF3 and the Hids on my car witch I love. But I decided Ill just go for the R500, Its better then lugging around an 8 pound light everytime I hear a noise in the woods or when I need more light then my FF3. But I will report back to you guys when I recive it.

 

[larryk]

I hope this isn't a silly question, but , do any Surefire tailcaps work/fit on this thing ??

The standard Surefire M3 tailcap fits but will not work. The Surefire SW02 tailcap works and would look great if is was black. The R500 tailcap works on the M3. Hope that helps.

 

[Bogus]

Paul,

The protection on the R500 cells is in the form of a single PCB but simultaneous monitoring of both cells. There's an extra wire from the PCB going to the centre joint between the 2 cells. So this way the cells are as fully, individually, protected as they come. According to my understanding (correct me if I'm wrong) all cells (even Pila) are "unprotected". The protection comes in the form of a PCB circuit soldered to the bottom of the cell. So the R500 cells and Pila cells should be equally safe.

But like you said the R500 doesn't have the freedom of easily swapping out the cells - but can be done with a spacer.

Bogus.

 

[bitterman1970]

larryk & cheapo, thanks for the info.

I was asking because I've got an old 6P knocking around with the old 6P end cap and I've also got a z48 tailcap so I'd like to try them them out.

This incan is getting very tempting for this led lover !!

 

[clipse]

I got mine today. Color me impressed. Wow, this light is very substantial feeling. And very bright. I don't have my multimeter here at work but but the battery did have charge. It is deffinatly very bright. Its smaller than I thought it would be.

clipse

 

[SCEMan]

After spotting a couple coyotes following my wife and me on our nightly walk along the foothills near our house I realized my TL-3 wasn't bright enough. I started perusing this CPF thread and voila - talk about perfect timing! Got my R500 from Lighthound and tested it last nite. Whoa!!! Is this thing bright!!! My TL-3 is dwarfed and yellow in comparison. Can't wait to go walking tonight and blind some critters...

BTW, I tested old & new SF 6p tailcaps - neither work although they screw on.

 

[clipse]

Here are some pictures, you can click on them to make them bigger.


First the light:


Now the Tailcap:


The head disassembled:


Now some beamshots compared to other lights I have

First my brightest light, Borealis (advertised 1050 lumens)


Next the R500 (advertised 500 lumens)


And now the G2 with a P61 LA (advertised 120 lumens)



Enjoy,

clipse

edited to add: I might mention that the batteries weren't at full charge. They registered 7.58 volts when I got it(on my multimeter). I still have to charge it fully. I'm sure that will make a difference.
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[JB]

If there is some voltage sag with the S version, and there more than likely is, the bulb should last longer at the cost of slightly less lumen output.

Coming back to this post, what's the normal lifespan of the bulb?

Any ideas how much longer the S bulb would last and how much fewer lumens it will output?

 

[clipse]

Anyone have an idea of what the cut off voltage is for the battery pack?

clipse

 

[clipse]

Here is my review of the R500

https://www.candlepowerforums.com/threads/136123

 

[Whitelitee]

Okay, I got the light today. Its really built nice like everyone said. I have charged it to the green light a few times already today, and boy that sucker is bright. But I noticed through some of my short uses and green charge light. That about 30 seconds of on time equals to about 10+ mins of charging before the light is green again. I really like this light, Im just wondering if there is any faster chargers we can buy or locate that will charge the light faster and saftley?

 

[onlinewarlord]

Ok for whatever reasons SEARCH is not working for me so I'm just going to ask here.

I have had a Scorpion for a few weeks now, and it has only seen occasional and brief usage since I got it. The other day I decided to give it my own runtime test. Since attempting to check the run time I have discovered that my Scorpion can not even handle 1 minute of constant on before it goes completely off.

I charged the battery again and retried the test. Again 45 second runtime and then it goes off. There is no dimming, it goes straight from ON to Off, and then it requires recharging to light again.

Anyone else have this problem? or have a solution?

 

[Fusion_m8]

Ok for whatever reasons SEARCH is not working for me so I'm just going to ask here.

I have had a Scorpion for a few weeks now, and it has only seen occasional and brief usage since I got it. The other day I decided to give it my own runtime test. Since attempting to check the run time I have discovered that my Scorpion can not even handle 1 minute of constant on before it goes completely off.

I charged the battery again and retried the test. Again 45 second runtime and then it goes off. There is no dimming, it goes straight from ON to Off, and then it requires recharging to light again.

Anyone else have this problem? or have a solution?

Sounds like you may have an issue with your battery pack... the cells in the standard R500 battery pack is sub standard to say the least.

If you look at some of the previous posts in this thread regarding the battery pack, the concensus is that the battery pack is nowhere near in terms of quality as the flashlight it comes with.

Some members have recommended replacing the crappy standard cells with either Panasonic or DLG 18650s...

If I were you, I'd email the seller and get it replaced as a manufacturing defect warranty issue.

 

[DrJ]

Just went for a R500S from ebay...had to have one for Halloween, huh....

 

[Fusion_m8]

Just went for a R500S from ebay...had to have one for Halloween, huh....

"Trick or tre... AAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!! MY EYES!!!! :lolsign:

 

[JB]

My R500S arrived on Monday. Will post some pictures and a longer writeup in a new thread but I'll say that this is one sweet light!

Thanks to CPF for alerting me to this light.

 

[Penguin]

Mine should be coming in tommorow or the day after can't wait to see it!