Godwin's law and Arnold

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Godwin\'s law and Arnold

If Al Gore invented the internet you would think they would know better.

As far as I'm concerned since they dropped that one they automatically lose. Arnold has had my vote all along. But with the puke bombs being dropped I'm even more anxious to see him win.

I have never been so amazed and disgusted at politics as to what has gone on in this election. I'm not even talking about the character issues. Just the sheer stupidity of signing bills that everyone seems to hate and then expecting their support and approval escapes me.

Mutech
 
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Only in Ca.
 
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Not being a Californian, I've no true personal involvement in the situation. There are some interesting factors that have developed. I suppose it's best to watch how one's party reacts to different situations (or should I call it stimuli), otherwise they find themselves in a contradictory situation later.

It was said recently, that celebrities have no qualification to speak with any authority regarding the political arena nor world events. Now the frontrunner is just that, a movie actor; nothing more, and nothing less.

It was said that a womanizing untruthful cad that would deny their actions, and then admit it when they realize there's no way out is not fit for office. Now the frontrunner is just that, and doing that. But then, maybe groping and forcing yourself on others is permitted only within one's own party but not the other.

It's interestingly amusing and only an observation from an outsider; like I said I'm not a Californian. I'm sure those finding themselves having to reconcile the 'before' and 'now' have some beautifully constructed justifications for the paradox.
 
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Politics... dirty dirty dirty dirty! Money + Power + Politics = World Domination = Corruption != Goodness /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
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Empath said:
It was said that celebrities have no qualification to speak with any authority regarding the political arena nor world events. Now the forerunner is just that, a movie actor; nothing more, and nothing less.

Big difference between running ones mouth with a world wide soapbox, contributing nothing but insults then hiding back in your hole compared to someone actually putting their money, time and effort into running for office and taking a multi million dollar pay cut to help out their state. The ones being criticized are the ones that offer nothing but criticism with no solutions they are willing to back up.

It was said that a womanizing untruthful cad that would deny their actions, and then admit it when they realize there's no way out is not fit for office. Now the forerunner is just that, and doing that. But then, maybe groping and forcing yourself on others is permitted only within one's own party but not the other.

Again, big difference between lying under oath to the entire nation as the acting President of the United States and it being proven to be lie after lie and coming out and admitting to unproven but probably accurate rumors about groping. Keep in mind these rumors were put forward by one of the top two liberal papers in the country in the 11th hour of an election, hmmmm. What he PROBABLY did is wrong and inexcusable but when did he lie about it and how is there no way out of it right now? He could have lied now and faced the music next month like the “other guy”. The voters have to decide what's politics and what's truth. If he ever runs for President I for one would not vote for him for that reason and many others.

It's interestingly amusing and only an observation from an outsider; like I said I'm not a Californian. I'm sure those finding themselves having to reconcile the 'before' and 'now' have some beautifully constructed justifications for the paradox.

Not beautifully constructed but it's also not a paradox to me as I really see Arnold as a liberal faking it as a Republican. If Arnold wins both parties win and lose a little which might be what CA needs.

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What D Double Dawg said... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbsup.gif

In addition... Arnold is probably better described as a Liberal Republican... a bit of an oxymoron but accurate nonetheless. I do honestly think he'll do ok for the state. Bottom line is... he can't do any worse than has already been done... know what I mean? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/icon6.gif
 
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That was beautifully constructed, Dave. You done good. In answer to your question, "when did he lie, and how is there no way out of it", I only know what I read in the Oregon papers. According to them, Arnold's press secretary, spokesman or whatever the title was (see how it impressed me) originally denied the reports when asked if Arnold actually did this. Then as more came forward, Arnold came clean and admitted he'd been a bad boy. Of course, he could claim that his spokesman doesn't speak for him, or maybe he could even say "could you define 'did'".
 
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Sasha said:
...Arnold is probably better described as a Liberal Republican... a bit of an oxymoron but accurate nonetheless. I do honestly think he'll do ok for the state. Bottom line is... he can't do any worse than has already been done... know what I mean? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/icon6.gif

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Yes, and as I take a last, eleventh-hour peek at my Sample Ballot for tomorrow -- I agree with you! I have a gut-level feeling that Arnold brings less of a personal agenda into the race than the other one hundred thirty-four names listed. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Of course there's always Angelyne (but too weird <even for California> to have a govenor with just one name) /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif -or- Gary Coleman -or- the ever-popular Trek Thunder Kelly (running under the motto: PLEASE VOTE FOR ME, THUS BREAKING THE 7TH SEAL AND INCURRING ARMAGEDDON.) /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif I mean -- who wouldn't want to cast their vote for a guy like that?? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

OTOH if Arnold does get in -- does that mean "Twisted Sister" will play at the inaugural ball??? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/buttrock.gif

Gotta love Cali!!!
 
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hyeTotum said:
OTOH if Arnold does get in -- does that mean "Twisted Sister" will play at the inaugural ball??? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/buttrock.gif

Gotta love Cali!!!

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LOL ... The New Republican Party!
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For those that care to vote with their checkbook -- Anheiser Busch is bankrolling a gread deal of the anti-recall avertising.
I got a phone just last night from Al Gore urging me to vote "no" on the recall and "yes" for Bustamante.
At the end of the phone call it says that it was paid for by the so-an-so committee with funding from Anheiser Busch.
 
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GJW,I don't know if it made Oregon papers or not, but I haven't seen it. It's not that it means much to me, other than a source of amusement and a study in human nature and the inability of people to see what they don't want to see.

Have you any idea why so many refer to both the more recently denied accusations and the ones Schwarzenegger admitted are lumped together as "allegations". It kind of reminds me of an old "philosophical" question or "stupid" question, depending on how you look at it. "Is it better to slide down the edge of a 100 foot razor, or a 1000 foot razor?"
 
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Speaking of "more info to chew on"...

Hold on Arnold, don't pack your bags yet!
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This Just In: Early election returns from Bordello County, California seem to indicate a sharp rise in turnout for Adult Film Star Candidate Mary 'Mary Carey' Cook!!

Mary Carey appears to be making a come-back! This is believed to be the result of Carey's massive fan club whose members now seem to be standing up all around her!

Carey is running on the motto "Feel These! They're Real!" and her platform features such planks as:

"2. Tax breast implants. From Beverly Hills alone, we should bring in millions in tax revenue. (Note: I am all-natural and I personally discourage the use of implants!)

3. Make lap dances a tax deductible business expense. This will help grease the wheels of business in California and stimulate our economy."

Due to a last-minute glitch in the Bordello County voting machines, it appears the actual counting of ballots will have to be a hand job!
__________________________________

Gee -- and I thought she was just a tongue-in-cheek entry!? I sure hope I havn't been premature...
 
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DieselDave said:
If he ever runs for President I for one would not vote for him for that reason and many others.


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He can't, he's not a natural-born citizen.
 
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..... I was almost sucked in.... but managed to still my hand just barely in time.

If the hypocricy on both sides of the latest "Arnold issues" aren't obvious to everybody - then our state and country are in bigger trouble than I give credit for. Hear what I say - there is flagrant hypocricy from BOTH sides. As with all issues, one typically only hears (listens to?) the parts that one wants to hear.
 
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Bill.H said:
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DieselDave said:
If he ever runs for President I for one would not vote for him for that reason and many others.


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He can't, he's not a natural-born citizen.

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Even more of a reason for me not to vote for him. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif


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Darell said: ..... I was almost sucked in.... but managed to still my hand just barely in time.

If the hypocricy on both sides of the latest "Arnold issues" aren't obvious to everybody - then our state and country are in bigger trouble than I give credit for. Hear what I say - there is flagrant hypocricy from BOTH sides. As with all issues, one typically only hears (listens to?) the parts that one wants to hear.

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Ain't that the truth. The moralist turning a blind eye and the "if it feels good do it" folks wearing him out.

As bad as it is, this hypocrisy toward 2-30 year old groping, not rape or sex pales in comparison to a certain party electing and defending a former KKK member. That one even blows away the "other guy's" antics and the blind hypocrisy during the nineties.

Ultimately it's a "principles when convenient" policy for both parties.
 
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Bill.H said:
He can't, he's not a natural-born citizen.

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I've heard that there are two separate bills before Congress to get this changed.
Apparently the natural-born citizen requirement is racist.
 
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Sasha said:
Arnold is probably better described as a Liberal Republican... a bit of an oxymoron but accurate nonetheless.

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Who could have broader appeal than a champion for the environment who also uses his fleet of Hummer H1's as passenger vehicles? Hmmmm.

Note to Darell: Stay OUT of political threads. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/banghead.gif
 
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