Have you seen these Surefire lights before...

[Pontiaker]

A 6 with no tailcap? It was called the Waterproof version for diving...

The long one is a 7Z211 Combat Light
Matt

 

[ABTOMAT]

The first one is a 6C as far as I know. It predated SureFire's use of a tailswitch.

 

[Pontiaker]

The first one is a 6C as far as I know. It predated SureFire's use of a tailswitch.

NOPE, it was made at the same time as the lights with switches and was called the waterproof version, it predates the use of sufixes....It was simply called the Sure-Fire 6, reading it right off the box and parts tags....

 

[zx7dave]

Please PM me if you ever want to sell the Surefire 6. I like the vintage lights.

 

[Illum]

theres a "rare and unusual surefire" thread thats active, you can contribute by posting there if you like
http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=192419

 

[jtivat]

NOPE, it was made at the same time as the lights with switches and was called the waterproof version, it predates the use of sufixes....It was simply called the Sure-Fire 6, reading it right off the box and parts tags....

Nope he is right this was the original lithium cell light made before they had tail switches. The 6PN is the dive light.

 

[Pontiaker]

theres a "rare and unusual surefire" thread thats active, you can contribute by posting there if you like
http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=192419

Cool, thanks! I did already post them in one of the SF collecting threads though...
Matt

 

[Pontiaker]

Nope he is right this was the original lithium cell light made before they had tail switches. The 6PN is the dive light.

Did you not read in my post where I bought these at the same time from the same SF rep and was told by that rep that these are the first dive lights or I should say Waterproof lights, at least thats what we were told? Are going by whats thought to be known on forums or what IS known from first hand buyers directly from SF? They came out of a big shipping box at the same time... They were called waterproof nit dive lights....

So did the SF rep lie to me or what:~) I will call my uncle and see if he remembers the same story too.:thumbsup:

 

[jtivat]

Did you not read in my post where I bought these at the same time from the same SF rep and was told by that rep that these are the first dive lights or I should say Waterproof lights, at least thats what we were told? Are going by whats thought to be known on forums or what IS known from first hand buyers directly from SF? They came out of a big shipping box at the same time... They were called waterproof nit dive lights....

So did the SF rep lie to me or what:~) I will call my uncle and see if he remembers the same story too.:thumbsup:

Yes he lied or did not know what he was talking about ( what a sales rep lie never!).

I have a friend that has worked at SureFire for many many years and he is the person I received my info from.

Here are some photo's I have never seen a 6P with a plastic lamp module or 2/3 A cells as these pre date 123's.

 

[Pontiaker]

Were guessing the rep must have been trying to get rid of the first lights saying they were waterproof trying to sell them at the same time the newer lights with tailcaps came out? Thats my best guess.

 

[ABTOMAT]

The first light was the 6. I assume they started calling it the 6C after the 6P came out, but that's not my area of expertise. From the design it appears to be capable of deeper sumbersion than the ones with tailcap switches.

 

[jtivat]

Were guessing the rep must have been trying to get rid of the first lights saying they were waterproof trying to sell them at the same time the newer lights with tailcaps came out? Thats my best guess.

They are worth more as the first light so this is a good thing.

 

[ampdude]

I forgot the 7Z existed! How is it different from the 9Z and 12ZM?

Must take those 2/3 A cells? Or maybe a rechargeable battery stick? :huh:

 

[toby_pra]

really nice and rare Surefires...

 

[Pontiaker]

I forgot the 7Z existed! How is it different from the 9Z and 12ZM?

Must take those 2/3 A cells? Or maybe a rechargeable battery stick? :huh:

To be hanoest I really dont know. We were a full stocking dealer for about 4-5 years and I just dont remember everything we sold back then. I had a couple more 6's years ago and sold them to upgrade to the newer stuff when it came out.

The 7z's came with a battery stick with what looks like four cells in it but they are not 123 size cells. The light also came with a battery spacer that is about the size of a AA primary cell that you could use with two 123 batts to run the light on primary batteries.
Matt

 

[Stillphoto]

Pretty sure there are a few collectors around here looking for that original 6...isn't that one of the 6 series collector grails?

 

[Mike 208]

The 7Z is a rechargeable combat light (basically a 6R with combat rings); it uses the same B65 battery and lamp assembly.

The 12PM (and the combat light version 12ZM) were 4 battery lights with a turbo head that produced (IIRC) 500 lumens of light. These lights were replaced by the M4.

 

[Size15's]

The 12PM was the straight-bodied version of the 12ZM.
I have a 12PM. I wish I had purchased a 12ZM instead though because back then I had the choice...

I have a 7Z - it's body is too short for four-SF123A batteries.

 

[zx7dave]

The 12PM was the straight-bodied version of the 12ZM.
I have a 12PM. I wish I had purchased a 12ZM instead though because back then I had the choice...

I have a 7Z - it's body is too short for four-SF123A batteries.

Al - Interesting..I have the 12ZM and wish I had a 12PM...Still on the lookout for one...eventually. I find it interesting that Surefire would put serial numbers on their early lights such as the Surefire 6, but then not on some later models such as the round 6P/9P/12P. Was wondering if you knew was this primarily for the customer (likely military or police) to have inventory/tracking purposes? Thanks

 

[Size15's]

The main application for serial numbers does appear to be so that one can be identified from another from an issuing perspective.
It wasn't really until PK introduced the idea of putting flat-panels on the bodies of [SureFire] flashlights that there was etchable real estate for not only the brand logo, but also the model number and things like serial numbers.