HDS 2700k, 3000k, 3500k, and 4000k LAST HDS GROUP BUY

[Hogokansatsukan]

Copied from OP update just to make sure everyone sees it.

Update: Because of the large demand, I ordered the emitters today (04/11/18) 3500k are gone. I ordered a few extra in the other categories for folks who may not have signed up yet, but are still considering it. I will NOT be taking a deposit on the emitters like I originally posted.

I will be requiring an email from each of you later NOT NOW! and will give instructions later as time goes on about this. I'm trying to make this the most simple I can for myself (group buys royally suck when you are the one running them!) while at the same time ensuring everyone gets what they want.

 

[BigBluefish]

Perfectly happy here with 3000k. Thank you!

 

[ampdude]

Please put me in for a 3500K if one becomes available. I have not had an HDS (Henry made) in about ten years. That was back when they were 42 lumens on "high", LoL!

 

[Robe]

Dang it! Can't decide between. Put me in for 2700. I like a warm so might as well...

 

[lerdsu]

If there are any 4000k available left, put me down for one.

 

[Hogokansatsukan]

Please put me in for a 3500K if one becomes available. I have not had an HDS (Henry made) in about ten years. That was back when they were 42 lumens on "high", LoL!

I won't keep more on the list now than what I have emitters for. If there is another temp color you would like, I can give you a spot there.

OP updated

 

[ampdude]

I won't keep more on the list now than what I have emitters for. If there is another temp color you would like, I can give you a spot there.

OP updated

Thank you for the reply. It has to be 3500K for me in accordance with my experience with other 3500K LED's. Please let me know if anything can change in that regard, otherwise I'm out.

I hope that I can be first on the list if someone drops out of 3500K.

 

[nmiller]

I apologize but have to drop out of this. Let me know if I owe you for the ordered emittor. Just PM me the details. Again, I apologize.

 

[Hogokansatsukan]

No problem.

OP updated.

 

[ampdude]

Are these lights all not HA type III natural anymore? I was just on the website and it looks like they are all black type III finish.

 

[Psypha]

Put me down for 4000k please [emoji120]🏼

 

[Hogokansatsukan]

Are these lights all not HA type III natural anymore? I was just on the website and it looks like they are all black type III finish.

They have been black HAIII for years.

Put me down for 4000k please [emoji120]

OP Updated

 

[sledhead]

Dan, put me in for a 4000k also, my wife has taken over my present one......😀

 

[ampdude]

They have been black HAIII for years.



OP Updated

Oh damn, I remember now. Everyone went to the cheaper finish because black type III is easier to produce than the tougher NAT type III. Please count me out of the group buy. Thank you.

 

[Hogokansatsukan]

Oh damn, I remember now. Everyone went to the cheaper finish because black type III is easier to produce than the tougher NAT type III. Please count me out of the group buy. Thank you.

Actually no, it is the same type III but with a black dye so that matching parts is easier. It isn't cheaper at all. You might be thinking type II which is the thin type anodizing.

 

[archimedes]

Oh damn, I remember now. Everyone went to the cheaper finish because black type III is easier to produce than the tougher NAT type III. Please count me out of the group buy. Thank you.

I think that aluminum hardcoat anodizing (MilSpec Type III) is divided into Class 1 (nondyed) and Class 2 (dyed) options.

The thicker the coating created by this process, generally, the tougher and darker the resultant undyed "natural" finish.

The final color of undyed anodize is also partially determined by other factors, including specific alloy of aluminum substrate, as well as process temperature and voltage.

With maximal thicknesses, this can appear nearly black.

Of course, Type III anodize can also be dyed (most often but not always) black and this would not weaken the underlying finish, although it would be of the Class 2 type (and could therefore be thinner yet just as dark as a "black" Type III Class 1 finish)

 

[archimedes]

Hogo responded quicker (and more concisely) but, yes, Type III anodizing in black (whether dyed or nondyed) is much tougher than Type II finishes (in any color, including black)

 

[Hogokansatsukan]

I thought he might be referring to type II anodizing, which can be done in many colors (think Mag), but type III is either a dark gray/green or black. Without the dye, they won't match unless all the pieces come from the exact same bar stock and are anodized together in the tank, preferably with the parts of the lights essentially put together so that they are in the same spot in the tank. It's been looked into doing a run of natural type III, and would be such a PITA to all the parts to match up on the individual lights, it simply wouldn't be cost effective... and I remember all too well the gnashing of teeth and complaining that made most everyone move to black.

 

[ampdude]

I thought he might be referring to type II anodizing, which can be done in many colors (think Mag), but type III is either a dark gray/green or black. Without the dye, they won't match unless all the pieces come from the exact same bar stock and are anodized together in the tank, preferably with the parts of the lights essentially put together so that they are in the same spot in the tank. It's been looked into doing a run of natural type III, and would be such a PITA to all the parts to match up on the individual lights, it simply wouldn't be cost effective... and I remember all too well the gnashing of teeth and complaining that made most everyone move to black.

Is that what is was? Customers complaining about mismatched type III Nat finish? I've never heard of that issue before causing a problem with sales. We want the type three Nat lights. I've just always heard it's cheaper to go with black type III and that's all we seem to get forever these days.

Type II anodizing is an entirely different softer finish found on the Surefire 6P-BK and similar lights.

 

[archimedes]

Is that what is was? Customers complaining about mismatched type III Nat finish? I've never heard of that issue before causing a problem with sales. I've just always heard it's cheaper to go with black type III.

I have quite a few vintage SureFire in HA-NAT where every single part is a different shade of olive / green / gray / bronze / brown / charcoal ... :shrug:

EDIT - some pretty good examples, here ...